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Old 02-18-2005, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Machan
Red is 9/2003 build date.

The Black one is 5/23/2003 build date.


Would this matter to you that the black one has been sitting longer?
Man, those cars have been out there for a while. To me, the only thing I would be worried about is fuel consumption because I know some people on here with earlier models only get around 13mpg max when they should be getting around 17-19mpg hwy. Do you think the dealer would let you keep each of them for a full day? If not, take each of them on a highway test drive and go as far as they will let you. See which one burns the least fuel (if you don't go very far, you might not notice any immediate difference, though) and lean towards that one.

Black really seemed like the color you were initially going for all along, so if that's the case, I'd just go with that and don't look back.

EDIT: Also, check out this thread on the TSBs. You might want to sift through them just to see which VIN range is targeted for the bigger problems. Might help give you a sense of which build dates are more troublesome.

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Originally Posted by markd
Man, those cars have been out there for a while. To me, the only thing I would be worried about is fuel consumption because I know some people on here with earlier models only get around 13mpg max when they should be getting around 17-19mpg hwy. Do you think the dealer would let you keep each of them for a full day? If not, take each of them on a highway test drive and go as far as they will let you. See which one burns the least fuel (if you don't go very far, you might not notice any immediate difference, though) and lean towards that one.

Black really seemed like the color you were initially going for all along, so if that's the case, I'd just go with that and don't look back.

EDIT: Also, check out this thread on the TSBs. You might want to sift through them just to see which VIN range is targeted for the bigger problems. Might help give you a sense of which build dates are more troublesome.
A nice guy from this forum ran the VIN and determined that the M flash had been done (on the black one) and all of the recalls were done. Not sure if the oil pan TSB has been done yet.

I was under the assumption that the M flash cures all of the gas mileage woes that people were having early on. Can someone confirm this?


I'm going black. After looking at photos all last night, I also determined that I really don't like the OEM spoiler. (No offense to people that have them).

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I've heard mixed reviews about the M-flash and the fuel issue. Some people saw immediate differences. For others, it was negligible. Mine had the L-flash when I purchased it and had it re-flashed during the initial recall a few months ago. I did notice a slight improvement in fuel efficiency, but I also changed my driving style and that helped a lot. I, of course, didn't have the bad gas mileage problem that others have experienced. Hopefully someone here can give you better insight. I'm running out of time and have to leave my computer now, but you might go through a few of the threads in the Problems & Issues section (under Tech Garage) to see what others have said.

And no offense taken on the spoiler for me--I have one on mine and think it very much completes the aggressive look of the 8, but I also think it unfortunately resembles the wing on the Eclipses
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Let me put it this way... you can't lose w/ whatever color... you're getting an 8! :D
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Go with Velocity Red.

The black looks horrible when dirty.
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Originally Posted by flipstream
Let me put it this way... you can't lose w/ whatever color... you're getting an 8! :D

Thanks. bring your car out to a Eurotek meet. I'd love to see it. They are a nice bunch of guys, no really, they are :o .

Are you going to autocross/track your car?
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Originally Posted by Machan
Thanks. bring your car out to a Eurotek meet. I'd love to see it. They are a nice bunch of guys, no really, they are :o .

Are you going to autocross/track your car?
i autox-ed the 8 last year at the Rotary Revolution... it was fun! :D Looking forward for this year's event, but looks like i'll be hauling our things to move out west. i'll check into going to a Eurotek meet.. i met a few of you already..
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Originally Posted by flipstream
i autox-ed the 8 last year at the Rotary Revolution... it was fun! :D Looking forward for this year's event, but looks like i'll be hauling our things to move out west. i'll check into going to a Eurotek meet.. i met a few of you already..
Damn, sorry to hear you are moving, where are you heading?

Eurotek is an interesting group, show up for the ethnic food meets to meet the really cool people. If you are into different types of food and have an open mind that is...

Look forward to meeting you if you do stick around.
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Red has more options AND less expensive? Hmmmmm....
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Have we gotten any resolve on this? I'm just wondering......

<cough red cough>
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Originally Posted by Machan
Damn, sorry to hear you are moving, where are you heading?

Eurotek is an interesting group, show up for the ethnic food meets to meet the really cool people. If you are into different types of food and have an open mind that is...

Look forward to meeting you if you do stick around.
We're moving out to Vegas.. but the Eurotek food meets sound great.. food is good! :D If there are meets coming up.. i'll be sure to check 'em out.

Originally Posted by dazygirl415
Have we gotten any resolve on this? I'm just wondering......

<cough red cough>
He went w/ black... good choice.
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Originally Posted by dazygirl415
Have we gotten any resolve on this? I'm just wondering......

<cough red cough>

Actaully, yes, black won 3:1. I'm buying a black one with an sport and appearance package but without the spoiler. It will be pimp.
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