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Old 02-17-2009, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by alienRX8
I hate resale value on this car

makes me wish I would have bought something else, until I go out and drive it haha
I've noticed several people with comments about resale value on these forums, so I just wanted to put in my $.02 for what it's worth. I've owned several cars over the past twenty years. The only one I ever made any money on had nothing to do with the car (Chevy Cavalier), but rather the way it was purchased. I bought it at a siezed vehicle auction, had some transmission work done on it and drove it for six months before selling it. All maintenance, repairs, fuel and insurance included... I actually made $100 profit at the time I sold it.

Maybe I'm not looking at resale value the way some other people here are, but from my perspective you will hardly ever get anything back on any vehicle remotely close to what you have invested in it unless you are lucky and rich enough to buy a car that people are still going to love in thirty to fifty years. Many people don't have that kind of luxury or investment funds. So enjoy the car for what it is for as long as you have it, and when the losses outweigh the gains move to something else.
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Im not worried about the resale value, Im keeping the car anyways Whatever.
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Originally Posted by Renesis07
Weaksauce?

Now if I was 'hood rich', how would I be able to finance this car with inequity on top of it, think about it?

Also, Ive owned the car for 2 1/2 years. I financed 21000 after the inequity and 5,000 down. There was a lot of inequity becuase my previous vehicle was a lease vehicle that was giving me a lot of problems, so I dumped it and picked up my RX8.

Kinda fucked up you're calling me hood rich, you dont know anything about me or my financial situation, therefore you're just being an *******.
I didn't call you hood rich, I said "hood rich?". This is not an accusation, it's a question.
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Originally Posted by fstfwd
Appreciate your input, but if you're going to start shooting down ideas it's good to provide some of your own to use as an alternative.
Okay. Art is one-off. Cars are mass produced. So really, it would be like selling any other mass produced consumer good.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
I didn't call you hood rich, I said "hood rich?". This is not an accusation, it's a question.
okay, well to answer your question, no Im not hood rich.
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Originally Posted by fstfwd
I've noticed several people with comments about resale value on these forums, so I just wanted to put in my $.02 for what it's worth. I've owned several cars over the past twenty years. The only one I ever made any money on had nothing to do with the car (Chevy Cavalier), but rather the way it was purchased. I bought it at a siezed vehicle auction, had some transmission work done on it and drove it for six months before selling it. All maintenance, repairs, fuel and insurance included... I actually made $100 profit at the time I sold it.

Maybe I'm not looking at resale value the way some other people here are, but from my perspective you will hardly ever get anything back on any vehicle remotely close to what you have invested in it unless you are lucky and rich enough to buy a car that people are still going to love in thirty to fifty years. Many people don't have that kind of luxury or investment funds. So enjoy the car for what it is for as long as you have it, and when the losses outweigh the gains move to something else.
Its not that I want to win money when I sell my car. I just want to be able to in 2 years or so when I get bored and want something new that I can sell it without lossing a ton of money.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Okay. Art is one-off. Cars are mass produced. So really, it would be like selling any other mass produced consumer good.
You're correct about that, except that most mass produced consumer goods are sold with a reasonable markup for profit (actual value) vs other goods which may be sold on a huge markup based on perceived value (such as art).

After your earlier comment, I thought about what else I might use as an example and what immediately came to mind were classic cars. If memory serves, you could buy a 1965 Mustang new when they were made for near $3,000... which is the moderate markup over actual costs in order to be profitable. The same car can be sold today if in new condition with limited miles for ten to twenty times that amount based on perceived value. It's the same car, but people are willing to pay more for it. That was the difference I was trying to convey, but for me to say that cars are much like cars in how they're sold would be repetatively redundant (yes, intentionally said that way) wouldn't you say?
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Originally Posted by Smoke Honda
That's not that many miles. Is it an auto?
Wow, I forgot I had posted this thread.

No, it is a MT.

I listed in good condition when I appraised it. I have been tossing around the idea of a new car.

I just happen to get worried now and then. For example, when I drive it really really hard (like at redline/near redline for >45 sec) I get a flashing CEL. I slow down and give it a few seconds and it turns off. So I assume it's misfiring. I do have new Spark Plugs, so maybe it's another ignition problem?
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dmorales
I just happen to get worried now and then. For example, when I drive it really really hard (like at redline/near redline for >45 sec) I get a flashing CEL. I slow down and give it a few seconds and it turns off. So I assume it's misfiring. I do have new Spark Plugs, so maybe it's another ignition problem?
Maybe I don't understand cars or at least the RX8 well enough to say this as fact, but I can at least provide my opinion based on what I've read in the manual and these forums. Pegging your tachometer is not good for the engine from what I recall of the manual. I accidentally did this once a couple of months ago, and my CEL flashed as well. When people are talking about redlining the car to blow the carbon out on these forums, at least some of them are talking about a range from 7500-8500 rpm (near redline, not actual redline).
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Originally Posted by dmorales
Wow, I forgot I had posted this thread.

No, it is a MT.

I listed in good condition when I appraised it. I have been tossing around the idea of a new car.

I just happen to get worried now and then. For example, when I drive it really really hard (like at redline/near redline for >45 sec) I get a flashing CEL. I slow down and give it a few seconds and it turns off. So I assume it's misfiring. I do have new Spark Plugs, so maybe it's another ignition problem?
have you changed your coils and wires?
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i have a long ways to go with my equity to break even.. i got mine in 07 with 13,000 miles ('04 model). 20,500 out the door with extended warranty. trade-in value right now is 10k.
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Originally Posted by greg985
have you changed your coils and wires?
that's what I was thinking.


try that and see if it clears up the cel.
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Originally Posted by 77mjd
For the guy that appraised at edmunds...either you have a base model or you are forgetting to add some of the options/features you have on your car in calculating the value because it shouldnt be that low.
I'm with 77mjd. You must have missed something dmorales, unless you have a base model w/90k or more. my 05 base model w/48k on the odo comes up at 10k trade-in on Edmunds.
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Originally Posted by greg985
have you changed your coils and wires?
That was my next step. I'll give it a try and see fi it clears up.
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Originally Posted by dmc27
I'm with 77mjd. You must have missed something dmorales, unless you have a base model w/90k or more. my 05 base model w/48k on the odo comes up at 10k trade-in on Edmunds.
Mines a sports package, but not a Grand Touring. It's a 2004 with 95,000 miles. So that would definitely bring down the value from yours. Also, location may be a factor as well.
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Originally Posted by fstfwd
Maybe I don't understand cars or at least the RX8 well enough to say this as fact, but I can at least provide my opinion based on what I've read in the manual and these forums. Pegging your tachometer is not good for the engine from what I recall of the manual. I accidentally did this once a couple of months ago, and my CEL flashed as well. When people are talking about redlining the car to blow the carbon out on these forums, at least some of them are talking about a range from 7500-8500 rpm (near redline, not actual redline).
Your ok in redline. It's made to go that high for a reason. Although 7500-8500 is probably just as good for burning out carbon build-up, I didn't say I was trying to burn carbon for maintenance...

To clarify, redline is ok, but you wouldn't want to be "pegging" the tach as in hitting the fuel cut-off.
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Originally Posted by Go48
Try some other appraisal sites like KBB.com. You may be surprised at the difference between sites. Keep in mind that your car is worth what someone else is willing to pay for it which may or may not equate to an appraisal value. If it is in excellent condition, you have all the maintenance records or a log to show a potential buyer, it likely will be worth more to someone willing to pay a little more for a car that was well cared for.

There are potential buyers out there that are looking for that one exceptional car and they're willing to pay a premium for it. For example, I sold my '04 GT, loaded, in mid-2008 for $16,500. Of course it had low mileage and in near-showroom condition.
KBB is way overrated. I use to always laugh when someone came in the dealership waving the blue book around. Dealers have their own black book like Gray06 mentioned earlier. That is the book that determines what you will get for your car and usually its several thousand less than what KBB was quoting.

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^^ Wow, that's pretty rediculous man. Hood rich?
I know what you mean. That's why I sold my 04. Kept making payments month after month but the principal was going nowhere.
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Would that be something like NADAguides.com?
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Hmm, mine came out at $16,132 $17,745 $19,233... at edmunds.

$19233 for a car that I paid $24K for seems pretty good for depreciation... In fact that means that if I was buying the car from the dealer with 20K miles, it would only be $6K less than brand new... for a 3 year old car that is only a loss of $2K a year.

That is pretty damm good depreciation if you ask me.
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