Notices
RX-8 Discussion General discussion about the RX-8 that doesn't fit in one of the specialty forums.

Appraisal

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 02-13-2009, 10:20 PM
  #1  
Spin Triangles! Spin!
Thread Starter
 
dmorales's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas, US
Posts: 827
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Appraisal

out of curiosity, I appraised my car on Edmund's today. I was kind of hoping to see how much headway I have made on my loan. I thought maybe I had leveled out equity.

I was shocked.

I know I have the oldest model and a lot of miles, but still there seems like there has to be something wrong.

I think Private Party was $7,000 something.
Dealer retail was $6,493

I am almost insulted.
________
Pattaya apartments for sale

Last edited by dmorales; 09-09-2011 at 03:31 AM.
Old 02-13-2009, 10:21 PM
  #2  
What mawd bug?
iTrader: (3)
 
tubingchamp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada
Posts: 1,515
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Don't take it personally.

Depreciation is big on this car :D
Old 02-14-2009, 06:29 AM
  #3  
Registered
 
Go48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Fayetteville, PA
Posts: 2,598
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Try some other appraisal sites like KBB.com. You may be surprised at the difference between sites. Keep in mind that your car is worth what someone else is willing to pay for it which may or may not equate to an appraisal value. If it is in excellent condition, you have all the maintenance records or a log to show a potential buyer, it likely will be worth more to someone willing to pay a little more for a car that was well cared for.

There are potential buyers out there that are looking for that one exceptional car and they're willing to pay a premium for it. For example, I sold my '04 GT, loaded, in mid-2008 for $16,500. Of course it had low mileage and in near-showroom condition.
Old 02-14-2009, 08:44 AM
  #4  
Registered
 
j67345's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow, didn't know it had fallen to those depths! I just paid mine the rest of the way off last week.
Old 02-14-2009, 09:00 AM
  #5  
auto suckkssssss
 
Tim Tim Tim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sandy, Utah
Posts: 397
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
damn, I have a hell of a way to go.


well I just did mine and my trade in value is around 10. You must really have alot of miles. This car is going to be the death of me, I hope it lasts long enough to get paid off.

Last edited by Tim Tim Tim; 02-14-2009 at 09:02 AM.
Old 02-14-2009, 09:25 AM
  #6  
Unregistered Non-User
 
fstfwd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Go48
...Keep in mind that your car is worth what someone else is willing to pay for it which may or may not equate to an appraisal value...

... For example, I sold my '04 GT, loaded, in mid-2008 for $16,500. Of course it had low mileage and in near-showroom condition.
Exactly. Cars can be one of those items much like art, in that it is often sold for more than it's worth because someone is willing to pay for it at that price. You could recreate the Mona Lisa for $100-$200 I expect, but the original could be sold for much more than that because it is the original and somebody is willing to pay more for it.

I just bought my 04 GT for $15k a few months ago. Most of the 04 that I saw over a six month period were ranging $10k-$15k depending on options and condition, with a few exceptions on either side of that price range.
Old 02-14-2009, 09:27 AM
  #7  
Vtak just kicked in yo!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Renesis07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake County IL
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dmorales
out of curiosity, I appraised my car on Edmund's today. I was kind of hoping to see how much headway I have made on my loan. I thought maybe I had leveled out equity.

I was shocked.

I know I have the oldest model and a lot of miles, but still there seems like there has to be something wrong.

I think Private Party was $7,000 something.
Dealer retail was $6,493

I am almost insulted.
Mine is at 72,XXX and Ive been getting offered 9, XXX to 11, XXX for trade-ins everytime I stroll through random lots.
Old 02-14-2009, 03:31 PM
  #8  
Registered
 
77mjd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sheboygan Falls, Wisconsin
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My 04 GT 6mt has about 70k on the clock and in the past month or so I've had a few dealers appraise a trade in and they ranged from 9,700 - 10,100. The car still looks immaculate inside and out and all maintenance has been done religiously since day 1. I'm thinking of trading in for an r3 but of course dealers are being ****** when it comes to the price on those, giving me the "rare limited edition" bs. Unfortunately for them I am willing to wait for a used one if I have to or the end of the year when there are hopefully rebates in the neignborhood of $4500 again like the '08s.

For the guy that appraised at edmunds...either you have a base model or you are forgetting to add some of the options/features you have on your car in calculating the value because it shouldnt be that low.

Last edited by 77mjd; 02-14-2009 at 03:37 PM.
Old 02-16-2009, 05:31 PM
  #9  
Mid-Boss
iTrader: (1)
 
Smoke Honda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 545
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2004 Mazda RX-8 | Brilliant Black | Sports Package
94,000 Miles
That's not that many miles. Is it an auto?
Old 02-16-2009, 05:51 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
BlueEyes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,887
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Originally Posted by fstfwd
Exactly. Cars can be one of those items much like art, in that it is often sold for more than it's worth because someone is willing to pay for it at that price. You could recreate the Mona Lisa for $100-$200 I expect, but the original could be sold for much more than that because it is the original and somebody is willing to pay more for it.

I just bought my 04 GT for $15k a few months ago. Most of the 04 that I saw over a six month period were ranging $10k-$15k depending on options and condition, with a few exceptions on either side of that price range.
It's really not like art at all. Terrible example.
Old 02-16-2009, 06:12 PM
  #11  
Registered
 
j67345's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by fstfwd
Exactly. Cars can be one of those items much like art, in that it is often sold for more than it's worth because someone is willing to pay for it at that price. You could recreate the Mona Lisa for $100-$200 I expect, but the original could be sold for much more than that because it is the original and somebody is willing to pay more for it.

I just bought my 04 GT for $15k a few months ago. Most of the 04 that I saw over a six month period were ranging $10k-$15k depending on options and condition, with a few exceptions on either side of that price range.
You could have paid quite a bit less, but if you're happy with paying that much...I suppose that's what counts
Old 02-16-2009, 06:29 PM
  #12  
Vtak just kicked in yo!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Renesis07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake County IL
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Its kinda funny how a 93 FD with <80K miles in good condition is worth more than most RX8s on the road.
Old 02-16-2009, 07:00 PM
  #13  
Snick-Snick Gearbox
iTrader: (1)
 
Zerotide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nowhere
Posts: 483
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Bought my 04 Grand Touring with 15k on it last June for $16,000 and I thought that was a good deal.
Old 02-16-2009, 07:16 PM
  #14  
Vtak just kicked in yo!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Renesis07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake County IL
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Zerotide
Bought my 04 Grand Touring with 15k on it last June for $16,000 and I thought that was a good deal.
I paid 18, XXX for my 04 GT with 18K miles back in early 06 lol.

Too bad I rolled so much inequity into this car otherwise I would actually have equity in the car right now

I still owe 14, XXX on it, its worth about 8, XXX trade in
Old 02-16-2009, 07:22 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
BlueEyes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,887
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
^^ Wow, that's pretty rediculous man. Hood rich?
Old 02-16-2009, 07:44 PM
  #16  
Snick-Snick Gearbox
iTrader: (1)
 
Zerotide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nowhere
Posts: 483
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Renesis07
I paid 18, XXX for my 04 GT with 18K miles back in early 06 lol.

Too bad I rolled so much inequity into this car otherwise I would actually have equity in the car right now

I still owe 14, XXX on it, its worth about 8, XXX trade in
54k miles in 3 years? Wow thats awesome you drive it that much a year. If you have a car that's meant to be enjoyed I think you should enjoy it. My 8 is my DD and I've only put 4500 on it in the 9 months I've had it.

Any major problems with yours? The guy I bought mine from was a rotorhead with all the receipts and service records so I'm hoping mine holds up for the long haul. I'm only 20 but planning on keeping this car for at least 5-6 more years, even if I retire it as a weekend car eventually.
Old 02-16-2009, 07:50 PM
  #17  
GR8FUL
 
Gray06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: N W FL
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The "Dealer Black Book" has my 06 Shinka with 6000 miles @ poor:$10k /fair $11k /good $12k.
That's wholesale or what dealers will give on a trade in. All dealers used this book.
A vehicle losing2/3th of it's MSRP in 2 and half years. Sure glad I love my car and will not ever let it go.
Old 02-16-2009, 08:02 PM
  #18  
Vtak just kicked in yo!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Renesis07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake County IL
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Zerotide
54k miles in 3 years? Wow thats awesome you drive it that much a year. If you have a car that's meant to be enjoyed I think you should enjoy it. My 8 is my DD and I've only put 4500 on it in the 9 months I've had it.

Any major problems with yours? The guy I bought mine from was a rotorhead with all the receipts and service records so I'm hoping mine holds up for the long haul. I'm only 20 but planning on keeping this car for at least 5-6 more years, even if I retire it as a weekend car eventually.
The funny part is I only drive my car from March - September every year then garage it for the winter.

LOL, if I had drove it throughout the years I would have over 120K at this point.

Car has been good to me, a lot of warranty work. Nothing too extravegant except my trans nuked at right around 35K miles, but its been great since then. Just replaced my throttle body at 72K cause the car wouldnt stay running.

Looking forward to getting it back on the road here within a couple weeks
Old 02-16-2009, 08:02 PM
  #19  
Vtak just kicked in yo!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Renesis07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake County IL
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BlueEyes
^^ Wow, that's pretty rediculous man. Hood rich?
Hood rich? What does that mean?
Old 02-16-2009, 08:07 PM
  #20  
Registered User
 
BlueEyes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,887
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
#4
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=hood%20rich

I don't know man, not to insult you or anything, but 3 years of ownership and you've paid $4k of principal on your loan. It's not really my business, but that's a little weaksauce.
Old 02-16-2009, 10:33 PM
  #21  
Unregistered Non-User
 
fstfwd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BlueEyes
It's really not like art at all. Terrible example.
Appreciate your input, but if you're going to start shooting down ideas it's good to provide some of your own to use as an alternative.
Old 02-16-2009, 10:34 PM
  #22  
Unregistered Non-User
 
fstfwd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by j67345
You could have paid quite a bit less, but if you're happy with paying that much...I suppose that's what counts
Exactly my point.
Old 02-17-2009, 07:07 AM
  #23  
Registered
 
Go48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Fayetteville, PA
Posts: 2,598
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Simple. A "good deal" is like a contract. That is, both parties receive consideration--one gets the car they want and the other gets the compensation--and both parties are happy with the deal.

BTW, trading in a car is never the way to get the value out of a car. Sell it yourself. A site like Autotrader.com is an excellent way to do that, as is parking it in a well-travelled spot with a for sale sign on it and a sheet with lots of details about the car. Keep a log with details for everything you do to the car including all the gasoline fillups. Potential buyers really appreciate that. And most of all, from the day you purchase the car, treat it as though you will be selling it the next day and you will get top dollar for it when you do sell it.
Old 02-17-2009, 01:09 PM
  #24  
Vtak just kicked in yo!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Renesis07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake County IL
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BlueEyes
#4
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=hood%20rich

I don't know man, not to insult you or anything, but 3 years of ownership and you've paid $4k of principal on your loan. It's not really my business, but that's a little weaksauce.
Weaksauce?

Now if I was 'hood rich', how would I be able to finance this car with inequity on top of it, think about it?

Also, Ive owned the car for 2 1/2 years. I financed 21000 after the inequity and 5,000 down. There was a lot of inequity becuase my previous vehicle was a lease vehicle that was giving me a lot of problems, so I dumped it and picked up my RX8.

Kinda fucked up you're calling me hood rich, you dont know anything about me or my financial situation, therefore you're just being an *******.
Old 02-17-2009, 01:28 PM
  #25  
Boosted!!!
 
alienRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Puerto Rīco
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I hate resale value on this car

makes me wish I would have bought something else, until I go out and drive it haha


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Appraisal



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:30 PM.