8 years, 100,000 mi extended warranty.
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While it's good that the unlucky few who will need engine replacements will get 'em, it's sad that Mazda had to do something like this just to reassure all the nervous nellies who've heard the nonstop Internet drumbeat of "engine failure, engine failure, engine failure" over the last two years.
Reminds me of how the rumor of "unintended acceleration" grew and grew until it finally consumed the ill-fated Audi 5000. Talk about poor resale!
Reminds me of how the rumor of "unintended acceleration" grew and grew until it finally consumed the ill-fated Audi 5000. Talk about poor resale!
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While it's good that the unlucky few who will need engine replacements will get 'em, it's sad that Mazda had to do something like this just to reassure all the nervous nellies who've heard the nonstop Internet drumbeat of "engine failure, engine failure, engine failure" over the last two years.
Reminds me of how the rumor of "unintended acceleration" grew and grew until it finally consumed the ill-fated Audi 5000. Talk about poor resale!
Reminds me of how the rumor of "unintended acceleration" grew and grew until it finally consumed the ill-fated Audi 5000. Talk about poor resale!
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I'll give you mine, I got it yesterday. 
Originally Posted by New Yorker
While it's good that the unlucky few who will need engine replacements will get 'em, it's sad that Mazda had to do something like this just to reassure all the nervous nellies who've heard the nonstop Internet drumbeat of "engine failure, engine failure, engine failure" over the last two years.
While I am certainly glad you have had no issues and I hope you hit 150k this really does indicate a much larger problem IMHO. Wouldn't the first extension have been enough otherwise? Maybe a higher number of engines failing after the 60k mark then was acceptable?
Originally Posted by New Yorker
While it's good that the unlucky few who will need engine replacements will get 'em, it's sad that Mazda had to do something like this just to reassure all the nervous nellies who've heard the nonstop Internet drumbeat of "engine failure, engine failure, engine failure" over the last two years.
While I am certainly glad you have had no issues and I hope you hit 150k this really does indicate a much larger problem IMHO. Wouldn't the first extension have been enough otherwise? Maybe a higher number of engines failing after the 60k mark then was acceptable?
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extended warrenty
I just purchased a used 8 with 30,000mi on it. This may be a stupid question but it sounds like you had to recieve that extended warrently paper from mazda. Is that correct or does it apply to any rx8 in the states. New or Used?
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I'll give you mine, I got it yesterday.
Originally Posted by New Yorker
While it's good that the unlucky few who will need engine replacements will get 'em, it's sad that Mazda had to do something like this just to reassure all the nervous nellies who've heard the nonstop Internet drumbeat of "engine failure, engine failure, engine failure" over the last two years.
While I am certainly glad you have had no issues and I hope you hit 150k this really does indicate a much larger problem IMHO. Wouldn't the first extension have been enough otherwise? Maybe a higher number of engines failing after the 60k mark then was acceptable?
Originally Posted by New Yorker
While it's good that the unlucky few who will need engine replacements will get 'em, it's sad that Mazda had to do something like this just to reassure all the nervous nellies who've heard the nonstop Internet drumbeat of "engine failure, engine failure, engine failure" over the last two years.
While I am certainly glad you have had no issues and I hope you hit 150k this really does indicate a much larger problem IMHO. Wouldn't the first extension have been enough otherwise? Maybe a higher number of engines failing after the 60k mark then was acceptable?
there's a thread over at the General Automotive accumulating questions for Jeremy Barnes. Why not you post there and get the answer from the source itself?
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Here's an idea for a little test: ask someone who knows nothing about RX-8s to spend an hour reading about the car on this forum. Then ask them to guess roughly what percentage of cars require engine replacements. What do you think they'd answer? 40%? 65%? 85%?? My point is, the severity of the problem as depicted here is far greater than it is in reality. How do I know? Use your head. If, for argument's sake, half of all RX-8 engines were being replaced, that would be news, and you'd read about it - or hear about it - in any number of magazines, newspapers and news reports.
Beyond their annual reliability survey, Consumer Reports, for one, regularly sniffs around to learn about significant reliability problems that affect a large percentage of any particular car. And when that happens, they report it. Not only has that not happened, they just placed the 8 on their list of Recommended Cars which, by definition, must not only be cars they like, but also must have average or better reliability.
All I'm saying is a major engine design flaw of such monumental proportions (as this forum loves having people believe) would be something called... news. And yet, for some reason, it isn't.
Ask yourself why.
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Applies to all sold and residing in the US. Mazda does not charge to transfer a warranty, but you do have to notify them. If the seller or the licensing agency notified Mazda you will get the paper work. If you don't then you should call them and get on the owners list. I think you can just do it on their web site or at any dealer as well. All manufacturers must give you a method of registering your current address in case there is a recall. This same list is used for notices of this sort.
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And yes, maybe after 60k the incidence of engine replacement is higher. Maybe it goes from 2% of all RX-8s to, ohmygod... 5%!!!
... My point is, the severity of the problem as depicted here is far greater than it is in reality. ...
All I'm saying is a major engine design flaw of such monumental proportions (as this forum loves having people believe) would be something called... news. And yet, for some reason, it isn't.
Ask yourself why.
... My point is, the severity of the problem as depicted here is far greater than it is in reality. ...
All I'm saying is a major engine design flaw of such monumental proportions (as this forum loves having people believe) would be something called... news. And yet, for some reason, it isn't.
Ask yourself why.
Do you think 5% of engines failing would be a small, acceptable rate of failure? That sounds huge to me. But I'll ask again, do you have any actual or comparative numbers on engine replacements? Or any idea how many actual RX-8 owners are represented in Consumer Reports' average rating?
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Wouldn't the first extension have been enough to do what? To reassure people that they have nothing to worry about? Apparently not. And yes, maybe after 60k the incidence of engine replacement is higher. Maybe it goes from 2% of all RX-8s to, ohmygod... 5%!!!
Here's an idea for a little test: ask someone who knows nothing about RX-8s to spend an hour reading about the car on this forum. Then ask them to guess roughly what percentage of cars require engine replacements. What do you think they'd answer? 40%? 65%? 85%?? My point is, the severity of the problem as depicted here is far greater than it is in reality. How do I know? Use your head. If, for argument's sake, half of all RX-8 engines were being replaced, that would be news, and you'd read about it - or hear about it - in any number of magazines, newspapers and news reports.
Beyond their annual reliability survey, Consumer Reports, for one, regularly sniffs around to learn about significant reliability problems that affect a large percentage of any particular car. And when that happens, they report it. Not only has that not happened, they just placed the 8 on their list of Recommended Cars which, by definition, must not only be cars they like, but also must have average or better reliability.
All I'm saying is a major engine design flaw of such monumental proportions (as this forum loves having people believe) would be something called... news. And yet, for some reason, it isn't.
Ask yourself why.
Here's an idea for a little test: ask someone who knows nothing about RX-8s to spend an hour reading about the car on this forum. Then ask them to guess roughly what percentage of cars require engine replacements. What do you think they'd answer? 40%? 65%? 85%?? My point is, the severity of the problem as depicted here is far greater than it is in reality. How do I know? Use your head. If, for argument's sake, half of all RX-8 engines were being replaced, that would be news, and you'd read about it - or hear about it - in any number of magazines, newspapers and news reports.
Beyond their annual reliability survey, Consumer Reports, for one, regularly sniffs around to learn about significant reliability problems that affect a large percentage of any particular car. And when that happens, they report it. Not only has that not happened, they just placed the 8 on their list of Recommended Cars which, by definition, must not only be cars they like, but also must have average or better reliability.
All I'm saying is a major engine design flaw of such monumental proportions (as this forum loves having people believe) would be something called... news. And yet, for some reason, it isn't.
Ask yourself why.
Here is a list of the reported replaced engines in our small group:
dbright007 - 8500 mi., AT, NA - warranty
WHENSON417 - miles?, NA - warranty
SilverEIGHT - 58,600 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 66,000 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 600 mi. on replacement engine, MT, NA - warranty
That's 5 engines from 30 (choose the high number) or roughly 17%. You can make the numbers be what ever you want. High or low depending on how you assemble the information. But anyway you look at it... that's damn high!
Even if you make it 4 because of phlash's dbl replacement, that's still 13%.
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All I can say is that this is some great news from Mazda. I saw this when I got my second oil change about a week and half ago; said extended powertrain warranty on the open recalls. Good stuff.
this is only for the rotary engine core - block... not the transmission or anything else on the long block.
On the Georgia forum, we have about 20 active members. Let's say 30 just to be safe. About 230 registered but the majority are inactive.
Here is a list of the reported replaced engines in our small group:
dbright007 - 8500 mi., AT, NA - warranty
WHENSON417 - miles?, NA - warranty
SilverEIGHT - 58,600 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 66,000 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 600 mi. on replacement engine, MT, NA - warranty
That's 5 engines from 30 (choose the high number) or roughly 17%. You can make the numbers be what ever you want. High or low depending on how you assemble the information. But anyway you look at it... that's damn high!
Even if you make it 4 because of phlash's dbl replacement, that's still 13%.
Here is a list of the reported replaced engines in our small group:
dbright007 - 8500 mi., AT, NA - warranty
WHENSON417 - miles?, NA - warranty
SilverEIGHT - 58,600 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 66,000 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 600 mi. on replacement engine, MT, NA - warranty
That's 5 engines from 30 (choose the high number) or roughly 17%. You can make the numbers be what ever you want. High or low depending on how you assemble the information. But anyway you look at it... that's damn high!
Even if you make it 4 because of phlash's dbl replacement, that's still 13%.
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On the Georgia forum, we have about 20 active members. Let's say 30 just to be safe. About 230 registered but the majority are inactive.
Here is a list of the reported replaced engines in our small group:
dbright007 - 8500 mi., AT, NA - warranty
WHENSON417 - miles?, NA - warranty
SilverEIGHT - 58,600 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 66,000 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 600 mi. on replacement engine, MT, NA - warranty
That's 5 engines from 30 (choose the high number) or roughly 17%. You can make the numbers be what ever you want. High or low depending on how you assemble the information. But anyway you look at it... that's damn high!
Even if you make it 4 because of phlash's dbl replacement, that's still 13%.
Here is a list of the reported replaced engines in our small group:
dbright007 - 8500 mi., AT, NA - warranty
WHENSON417 - miles?, NA - warranty
SilverEIGHT - 58,600 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 66,000 mi., MT, NA - warranty
phlash - 600 mi. on replacement engine, MT, NA - warranty
That's 5 engines from 30 (choose the high number) or roughly 17%. You can make the numbers be what ever you want. High or low depending on how you assemble the information. But anyway you look at it... that's damn high!
Even if you make it 4 because of phlash's dbl replacement, that's still 13%.
