5W20 or 5W30?
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Now I haven't done any searching, but sense we are on this topic now, has any one had any experience with Eneos oil....it's #1 in Japan yo.....not your run of the mill synthetic either. Said to be good up to 22,000 miles. We sell it here at tintmasters in Fargo and Grand Forks. Their rep has recommended 0w20....said to work well with rotaries
I saw that flashwing said he would be testing the 0w50 eneos oil. perhaps he can chime in some thoughts.
I will be running this in my next car
I saw that flashwing said he would be testing the 0w50 eneos oil. perhaps he can chime in some thoughts.
I will be running this in my next car
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*EDIT* Ha, it's 250W. You did it wrong, too!
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Someone here is a A** Some tact would be soo nice... Would LOVE To find you broken down on the side of the road... Would Throw you that same bottle of water... And Say, Here!!!! Fix It With This A** HO**!!! You would have gotten your message through just fine using some common courtesy...
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Now I haven't done any searching, but sense we are on this topic now, has any one had any experience with Eneos oil....it's #1 in Japan yo.....not your run of the mill synthetic either. Said to be good up to 22,000 miles. We sell it here at tintmasters in Fargo and Grand Forks. Their rep has recommended 0w20....said to work well with rotaries
I saw that flashwing said he would be testing the 0w50 eneos oil. perhaps he can chime in some thoughts.
I will be running this in my next car
I saw that flashwing said he would be testing the 0w50 eneos oil. perhaps he can chime in some thoughts.
I will be running this in my next car
Anyway, use anything Xw20, you're asking for engine death.
I use 20w50 ... Royal purple ...
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Someone here is a A** Some tact would be soo nice... Would LOVE To find you broken down on the side of the road... Would Throw you that same bottle of water... And Say, Here!!!! Fix It With This A** HO**!!! You would have gotten your message through just fine using some common courtesy...
Yea, we know.
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I'll try to gather some info and post it up.
***updated info copied from one our local forums.
The big discovery for us at SEMA this year was the fully synthetic oil made by Nippon, called ENEOS (E-KNEE-O-S). This oil is completely different than any other oil on the market. The smell is similar to brake fluid, the viscosity is just a bit thicker than water, and the potential gains are unmatched by any 'synthetic oil'. This will beat out any other oil on the market, including our own Royal Purple line (which already proved to last longer than Mobil 1, Castrol, etc...). We just received our opening order of this oil, and are very excited to bring this into our tintmasters locations (currently only available in our Fargo shop). No matter what vehicle, either the 0w-20 or 0w-50 will have you covered. 90% of the vehicles around here will only need the 0w-20, however for the higher hp guys the 0w-50 will be the way to go. I would really like to see Dave or Faul try this stuff out and see the gains. Here is a bit of information about ENEOS, and if anyone would like to come look/smell/touch the oil, please stop into the Fargo location. I assure that this is the best of the best in the oil industry. Pricing isn't set in stone but 0w-20 will be around the $10-$12/qt and the 0w-50 will be a bit more.
Keep in mind, any vehicle (Evo for examply) that recommends the use of Mobil 1 or any other synthetic oil can use this product and still retain warranty. That was one of the questions we asked while at SEMA and the ENEOS rep said there oil will not only meet the requirements of Mobil 1 (or whatever), but exceed them significantly. (See number "8." below for more information on this subject)
Any questions please let us know!
Here is some helpful information from www.eneos.us
1. Can you use synthetic oil if you are currently using conventional motor oil?
Yes. In older vehicles (12+ years old), certain cars may develop leak when switched to a synthetic motor oil. However, with the wide spread usage of synthetic oil in today’s market, synthetic oils as well as engine components are compatible with both synthetic and conventional motor oil. You can switch back and forth and even blend them without causing and damages.
2. How is ENEOS different from all the other brands? What is the advantage of ENEOS 0W-20 and 0W-50?
With more than 120 years of experience in the oil industry, Nippon Oil, the manufacturer of ENEOS products are amongst the top oil companies in the world. With the collaboration it has with numerous major Japanese car companies, Nippon Oil has the know-how and experience to formulate top quality motor oil for both Japanese and other vehicles alike.
ENEOS products are formulated for individuals that care about their motor vehicles. ENEOS products does not generalize consumers as a whole, but instead targets the specific need for individual driver. ENEOS 0W-20 is formulated for individuals that are looking for to reduce fuel consumption and C02 emissions as well as achieving higher fuel efficiency. The quality 0W-20 offers make this an exceptional eco-friendly product.
When high-output cars with large engine displacements are driven for long periods at high temperatures and heavy loads, they demand the outstanding heat resistance and oxidation stability that only fully synthetic motor oils can provide. ENEOS motor oil is made from 100% synthetic oil, it has an ultra-wide 0W-50 viscosity range that ensures superb starting performance even at the coldest winter temperatures as well as excellent oil film retention in the hottest summer conditions.
Outstanding High-Temperature Oxidation
Made from a carefully engineered blend of 100% synthetic base oils and optimized additives, ENEOS 0W-50 provides high-temperature oxidation stability vastly superior to motor oils made from mineral base oils. ENEOS 0W-50 also has outstanding coking resistance, an essential property for protecting turbo rotors operated at high temperatures and speeds.
Superior Drive-Train Wear Resistance and Excellent Cleanliness
The synthetic base featured in ENEOS 0W-50 allows it to maintain a strong oil film even at high temperatures, speeds and loads. This anti-wear protection is particularly effective in the drive trains of overhead cam systems, where lubrication conditions are especially challenging. In addition, ENEOS 0W-50 delivers superb thermal and oxidation stability, so it maintains excellent engine cleanliness by suppressing sludge formation, which can cause engine seizures and pump clogging.
3. How do I know which product variation to use in my car?
Reference your vehicle’s owners manual for the recommended motor oil and select the matching viscosity grade from the ENEOS product line. Even if you do not find a corresponding ENEOS product to your recommended viscosity grade, you can still contact your local dealer or us directly for a recommendation best suited for your vehicle and usage.
4. How often should I change my ENEOS oil?
Oil change intervals will depend on your driving habit and type of vehicle. If you do a lot of “hard” driving, city driving or low speed/low frequency driving, we recommend oil changes at 3000 miles interval. ENEOS motor oil can last a minimum of 10,000 miles, but due to engine containments and byproducts, we recommend a more frequent change interval for the optimal protection. Vehicles that are driven more lightly, or see majority of highway driving can go to intervals of 15,000 miles plus. We still do suggest a routine check up of the condition of the oil every 3000 to 5000 miles or so to ensure optimal protection.
5. Is a special oil filter required to use ENEOS Oils?
No, a special oil filter is not required. Simple use the factory recommended filter or a reputable after market brand.
6. Should I flush my engine or driveline before using ENEOS Fully synthetic lubricants?
An engine or driveline flush is not necessary to change to ENEOS motor oil. ENEOS products are compatible will all other synthetic or petroleum motor oil, therefore flushing is not required.
7. Where can I buy ENEOS products?
Tintmasters
8. Will using ENEOS products void my vehicle’s factory warranty?
ENEOS products are all API and SAE approved with the latest certifications. Using the correct application of ENEOS product will not void your vehicle’s factory warranty.
9. Why is ENEOS bottle so special?
ENEOS bottles are manufactured using a patented method. It is a double layer construction that protects its contents from contaminates, stiff exterior for ultimate ergonomics, and special bottle shape to eliminate spilling. Also the indention on the bottle prevents labels from rubbing off against each other or other products.
Jason Christopherson
Store Manager
tintmasters
Keep in mind, any vehicle (Evo for examply) that recommends the use of Mobil 1 or any other synthetic oil can use this product and still retain warranty. That was one of the questions we asked while at SEMA and the ENEOS rep said there oil will not only meet the requirements of Mobil 1 (or whatever), but exceed them significantly. (See number "8." below for more information on this subject)
Any questions please let us know!
Here is some helpful information from www.eneos.us
1. Can you use synthetic oil if you are currently using conventional motor oil?
Yes. In older vehicles (12+ years old), certain cars may develop leak when switched to a synthetic motor oil. However, with the wide spread usage of synthetic oil in today’s market, synthetic oils as well as engine components are compatible with both synthetic and conventional motor oil. You can switch back and forth and even blend them without causing and damages.
2. How is ENEOS different from all the other brands? What is the advantage of ENEOS 0W-20 and 0W-50?
With more than 120 years of experience in the oil industry, Nippon Oil, the manufacturer of ENEOS products are amongst the top oil companies in the world. With the collaboration it has with numerous major Japanese car companies, Nippon Oil has the know-how and experience to formulate top quality motor oil for both Japanese and other vehicles alike.
ENEOS products are formulated for individuals that care about their motor vehicles. ENEOS products does not generalize consumers as a whole, but instead targets the specific need for individual driver. ENEOS 0W-20 is formulated for individuals that are looking for to reduce fuel consumption and C02 emissions as well as achieving higher fuel efficiency. The quality 0W-20 offers make this an exceptional eco-friendly product.
When high-output cars with large engine displacements are driven for long periods at high temperatures and heavy loads, they demand the outstanding heat resistance and oxidation stability that only fully synthetic motor oils can provide. ENEOS motor oil is made from 100% synthetic oil, it has an ultra-wide 0W-50 viscosity range that ensures superb starting performance even at the coldest winter temperatures as well as excellent oil film retention in the hottest summer conditions.
Outstanding High-Temperature Oxidation
Made from a carefully engineered blend of 100% synthetic base oils and optimized additives, ENEOS 0W-50 provides high-temperature oxidation stability vastly superior to motor oils made from mineral base oils. ENEOS 0W-50 also has outstanding coking resistance, an essential property for protecting turbo rotors operated at high temperatures and speeds.
Superior Drive-Train Wear Resistance and Excellent Cleanliness
The synthetic base featured in ENEOS 0W-50 allows it to maintain a strong oil film even at high temperatures, speeds and loads. This anti-wear protection is particularly effective in the drive trains of overhead cam systems, where lubrication conditions are especially challenging. In addition, ENEOS 0W-50 delivers superb thermal and oxidation stability, so it maintains excellent engine cleanliness by suppressing sludge formation, which can cause engine seizures and pump clogging.
3. How do I know which product variation to use in my car?
Reference your vehicle’s owners manual for the recommended motor oil and select the matching viscosity grade from the ENEOS product line. Even if you do not find a corresponding ENEOS product to your recommended viscosity grade, you can still contact your local dealer or us directly for a recommendation best suited for your vehicle and usage.
4. How often should I change my ENEOS oil?
Oil change intervals will depend on your driving habit and type of vehicle. If you do a lot of “hard” driving, city driving or low speed/low frequency driving, we recommend oil changes at 3000 miles interval. ENEOS motor oil can last a minimum of 10,000 miles, but due to engine containments and byproducts, we recommend a more frequent change interval for the optimal protection. Vehicles that are driven more lightly, or see majority of highway driving can go to intervals of 15,000 miles plus. We still do suggest a routine check up of the condition of the oil every 3000 to 5000 miles or so to ensure optimal protection.
5. Is a special oil filter required to use ENEOS Oils?
No, a special oil filter is not required. Simple use the factory recommended filter or a reputable after market brand.
6. Should I flush my engine or driveline before using ENEOS Fully synthetic lubricants?
An engine or driveline flush is not necessary to change to ENEOS motor oil. ENEOS products are compatible will all other synthetic or petroleum motor oil, therefore flushing is not required.
7. Where can I buy ENEOS products?
Tintmasters
8. Will using ENEOS products void my vehicle’s factory warranty?
ENEOS products are all API and SAE approved with the latest certifications. Using the correct application of ENEOS product will not void your vehicle’s factory warranty.
9. Why is ENEOS bottle so special?
ENEOS bottles are manufactured using a patented method. It is a double layer construction that protects its contents from contaminates, stiff exterior for ultimate ergonomics, and special bottle shape to eliminate spilling. Also the indention on the bottle prevents labels from rubbing off against each other or other products.
Jason Christopherson
Store Manager
tintmasters
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Someone here is a A** Some tact would be soo nice... Would LOVE To find you broken down on the side of the road... Would Throw you that same bottle of water... And Say, Here!!!! Fix It With This A** HO**!!! You would have gotten your message through just fine using some common courtesy...
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When I got my first oil change I brought 5w-30 with me and told the service manager the oil I wanted to use was on the front seat. When he saw what it was he started freaking out and what not. Once he finally shut up I went on to tell him all the facts about why U.S uses 5w-20 and so on, and after I was done he just sat there speachless b/c I pwnd him. The assistant manager guy (who is really cool) told the dumbass manager that 5w-30 was better as long as it wasnt synthetic. I won my original battle so I didnt bother going on about syn oil
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Alright guys, I'll be topping up my oil soon, so here's the question:
My RX-8 manual says to use 5W20. I've heard of others using 5W30 oil as it's thicker. Which one is best? Also heard to stay away from synthetic oil so I'll be sticking with conventional. As for the brand, I'm thinking Castrol GTX, or is there a better brand oil to use?
My RX-8 manual says to use 5W20. I've heard of others using 5W30 oil as it's thicker. Which one is best? Also heard to stay away from synthetic oil so I'll be sticking with conventional. As for the brand, I'm thinking Castrol GTX, or is there a better brand oil to use?
5W30 is better. Synthetic. I am going to post this for the 10000th time. Synthetic blends are much cleaner, from the process side of it, and the physical and chemical properties are far superior.
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But the newcomers who drop in and ask the most frequently asked question are being pretty rude themselves. If someone is going to use a forum, they should at least pay attention to the usual courtesies - lurk for a while, and see if there are FAQs that answer their initial questions. Those basic manners have been around from before there were forums. Maybe not everyone uses forums, but the guy who started this thread just did.
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Do you see what I was telling you now cid, same **** over and over and over and over and over again!!!
I saw a way to stop things like this over on our nemesis car forum 8thcivic.com...the mods there literally ridicule the noob by calling them out on not using the search function, then close the thread so the noob cannot respond and then delete the thread all together after a couple days so people have something to talk about.
I saw a way to stop things like this over on our nemesis car forum 8thcivic.com...the mods there literally ridicule the noob by calling them out on not using the search function, then close the thread so the noob cannot respond and then delete the thread all together after a couple days so people have something to talk about.