zerobanger

with 265 RWHP in my rx7 last year I ran a 13.00 @ 108.3 on regular tires with a 2.03 60'. Not to be mean, but a 300 rwhp FD will eat an Evo for lunch and not even bother to spit out the pistons.

93silverFD

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Hmmm... what kinda car did you guys own/driven before you got in the RX8 and said it's "freakin fast"????

I love the looks of the car but I heard the news that Mazda lied about the HP #'s, and an owner actually dynoed his 6-speed at something like 180 WHP and 117 lb ft of torque.

That made me very curious and I went to the dealership today.... test drove the 6-speed in hopes of not too much disappointment. Well guess what..... the car has no power whatsoever. Comparing it to my car (99' Eclipse GST) this car has no low end torque, and it's nowhere near being "freakin fast" at WOT. I doubt it even produces 200HP using my butt dyno.

Even though I have never driven the EVO, but rated at 280hp, I'd say it's going to be MUCH faster than the RX8... considering that my car at 210hp is already faster.

Everything about the car is great, I just wish it had more torque/power.

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Not to be an *** but I think you are full of ****. I highly doubt you went to a Dealer and test drove an rx8 at WOT. You cant drive them like that until they are broken in, most test drive cars are not. Hence the reason they will not let you drive the car like a jackass. Im not saying the car is freaking fast either but its deff. not freaking slow. Please take you and your piece of **** crank walking gst somewhere else. This is a form for people who appreaciate real sports cars.

Oh, and by the way. I own a 93Fd and yes.. Its "Freaking Fast"

Mazda owns, go somewhere else

-=Zeqs=-

Well...once they hand you the keys to a RX8 and put you in a driver's seat, there really isn't much they can do to keep you from flooring it. That's all I can say about that.

syntrix

Agreed! Now learn the limits of the car and drive like a maniac at autox or a track day

Let's keep the language civil in here, please!

NskGenakuDuckie

Whoa whoa...was I being rude in the first place? I was trying real hard not to be. If I wanted to be a jackass trust me, I easily could've been worse.

The original topic starter exaggerated a little too much, and since I've actually driven the damn car, I thought I would give some input.

And during the test drive, I didn't intend to go WOT, but when we were turning back to the dealer, the salesman was like "gun it around this corner". I was thinking, "is this guy crazy? what if I oversteer and crash?". Well I went fast but not WOT....

Then comes a straight road, the salesman once agian said "try going really fast right here so you can feel the power".... I was hesitant, but my friend was like "dude gun it". And I was like "ahh wth", so I dropped it to 2nd and revved all the way up to 8k, didn't want to go to redline because as you said, it's not broken in yet.

I know the RX7 is fast, and I love that car, if you read my post I have not said anything bad about the FD. And as for the RX8, you guys have to admit it's not that fast. It's by no means slow, but it's not "freakin fast" either. Just calm down Mr. Mazda Pride. I'm intending to get the RX8 too, I'm not coming on here trying to start ****. I'm unbiase, I just state the facts and my personal opinions.

-=Zeqs=-

I agree...the RX-8 is not "freaking fast", on the straight aways. But take that thing throw some twisties with a driver that really is competent, not someone that thinks they are because they own a sports car, and they'll show you how the RX-8 truly is freaking fast.

However...I did notice you mentioned that your friend told you to listen the dealer and gun it. That means there was at least two extra bodies in the car? Not to beat a dead horse to soil, but the extra 150 lbs does make a slight difference in acceleration, especially in a car that is pretty gutless low end. It's like two fat chicks riding in a MR2 Spyder, and still expecting it to hit 15's in the quarter.

Haris

Stock 3rd. gen. RX7 will give evo a very good run. It'll probably be a very close race. 300 HP FD would crush evo.

javahut

MR2 Spyder? Eclipse? Please... these are not even in the same league as an RX-8. No way an Eclipse handles, brakes, revs or puts power down like the 8. I know the 8 is not a butt kickin' off the line power demon, but if you know how and when to accelerate in the right rev range at the right speeds, there's no doubt... it's fast!

Last_D8

I agree w/ javahut...and this thread is pathetic...it's obvious from reading the originator's statement and several of the lame replies that these are probably kids w/ little or no experience and that are just re-gurgitating stuff they've read elsewhere.

-=Zeqs=-

Who was comparing the MR2 with the RX8?

I simply used the MR2 as an example of how extra weight affects off the line performance on cars that do not have much torque to begin with. Lol...someone has their panties in a knot...

NskGenakuDuckie

Damn SOME of you RX8 owners are really stuck up thinking your car is the best thing out there. Stop it with the chin up in the air and pumped up chest attitude.

For those of you that praise the RX8 so highly you obviously owned a civic or corolla prior to owning the RX8. Honestly and unbiasely I would say if I was getting a car for SPEED, CORNERING, and BRAKING.... the RX8 would be the last on my list. I hear so much about the car being light.... it's "freakin" over 3000 lbs.... that isn't light.

That car without a doubt has stunning looks inside and out, and the price is right. As of now I'm still fixed on the RX8, so as I said I'm not trying to put your cars down, I'm just stating truthful opinions. Some of you guys are like supra owners, but without a car with the ***** to back up the attitude.

Racer X-8

I don't know what you were smoking during that test drive, but you need to stop. It's got you talking crap about a car on the car's forum. But, I guess you know better, so, I guess we need to take what you say as the facts, cuz we're just a world full of idiots who don't have a clue about what "freakin fast" is. DOH!

Elara

NSKGenakuDuckie,

Whether you mean to or not, your posts are coming across as condescending and rude. Please post your opinions politely, or not at all. If you are going to disagree with people, that's fine. But do it less abrasively.

THOR

Unfortunatley your numbers are off as the RX-8 only makes around 210 horsepower in the "high power" version. Therfore it's power to weight is maore like 14.4 # / hp.

As for the comments about the Evo versus an RX-7. A stock Evo will beat a stock FD to 60mph and through the 1/4 mile. After that the RX-7 will close the gap because of better aerodynamics, and 2 wheel drive. As for modifying the Evo and the RX-7, I beleive both are fantastic platforms to make extremely fast cars even faster. The Evo is probably a better choice mainly from a reilability standpoint. Not exactly a FD trademark.

Now as to which car is quicker around a track........that would be the Evo in the hands of 90% of drivers. 10% of drivers may be quicker in a stock FD, perhaps. Of course the size and type of the track comes into play as well. Don't underestimate the ability of an Evo around a racetrack. As you start adding modifications then the advantage swings in the RX-7's favor as long as the session isn't more than 20 minutes long!:D Then you may need a fresh motor waiting at home in the fridge because you have cooked the one in your car at the track.

Thor.

Broker73

hi power 8 producing 210hp??
Yah ok. Here we go again

DrMike

I know my 8 isn't the fastest car in the world and i will never go to a drag strip with it, BUT it is faster than the vast majority of cars on the road and EATS corners like sheriff's deputies eat donuts at the give away table. I love my car. I love the fact I can be just ploding along in 3rd gear at 3000rpm --floor the gas and blip the clutch and absolutely smoke the tires. Makes me giggle like a damn school girl. Can your car do that?

RX-GR8

you drive an EVO don't you? and your statistics can you prove them?

Broker73

it makes me laugh when guys on here claim the 8 is a slow car?
with the aftermarket heating up, it was always at the top of my list to buy.
And to the guy you gracefully put us down about loving our car, every mag out there gave the 8 strong praises in handling etc. No doubt there are faster cars out there, but the 8 will be faster than most at a light. Canzoomer just finished his stage one Fuel controller giving about 20-25hp in the mid range rpms, all the way up to redline, and I think the car will surprise a few people when they try to pull away.
Even stock it has enough power to be fun!

THOR

That would be correct. A 300 Whp RX-7 is usually running around a low 12 second 1/4 mile and would destroy a stock Evo. A 300 whp Evo also runs aorund a 12.4 @ 111 MPH as well: http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...threadid=51227

I would still expect the RX-7 to pull on it at higher speeds due to the lower drag and 2wd of the RX-7.

Thor.

THOR

Actually I used to own a 93 RX-7, and will be buying an Evo shortly. As for stats, just pop on the Evo forum. Plenty of people running 11 and 12 second 1/4 miles with the Evo. Mazda admits it overated the RX-8. In Europe the car is rated at 228 horsepower, which means it is not making that here. European car magazines: Evo, Car and Autocar have all questioned the acceleration of the RX-8 as it is lacking in a car making 228 horsepower. For example Autocars test:

0-60 MPH 7.1 sec
0-100 MPH 18.1 sec
30-70 MPH 6.8 sec

Not exactly a swift car. The Evo is of course much faster:

Lancer Evo VIII

0-60 MPH 4.8 sec
0-100 MPH 12.7 sec
30-70 MPH 4.9 sec.

Thor.

Broker73

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never saw thosenumbers, and did they do the test from a hard launch.....sorry, but there is no way the 8 from a dead stop does a time of over 7secs from 0-60.
Nice try though
Every time tested has been from 5.9-6.4 secs

Broker73

oh and by the way, I did read a euro mag that tested the 8 at 7 secs plus from 0-60.....it was the auto, not the manual !
they had a time of 6.4secs from 0-62mph for the manual, and over 7.2 for the auto

bobclevenger

1970 Dodge Challenger 440 6-pak, A-833 4-speed, 12.0:1 pistons, 284 degree cam. 1996 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra. And a few others if you want to go back way too many years.
No, my RX-8 is not the fastest, but it's still very fast! And MUCH more civilised.

THOR

Autocar magazine tested the car and the results are posted above. In fact they have a long term tester in their fleet. So not every time was below 7 seconds. They also averaged 22.5 MPG!!! Here's a link to the test:

http://www.autocarmag.com/RoadTest_S... /> RT=202089

http://www.autocarmag.com/RoadTest_F....asp?RT=202089

Thor.

THOR

Unless you have dynoed your RX-8 and made over the 170-180 WHP/110-115 Lb foot that these cars make on a dynojet then you do not have more than around 210 horsepower. This car dynos at 55-60 whp less than a 350Z, and around 20 whp less than a Honda S2000. That would make it right around 210 horsepower.

Thor.