**The RX-8 IS FREAKIN FAST**
07-31-2003, 03:06 PM
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**The RX-8 IS FREAKIN FAST**
damn this car is fast! It feels more powerful than the evo8! I drove both today back to back. And I must say I loved the feel of the rx-8. adapting to the car will be necessary because it had to much power that I kept burning out. the rpms jump and it looks so NICE!
07-31-2003, 07:42 PM
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This car IS sinckity snickity FAST. As I get more used to the car, get more miles, and be in the right gear, this baby starts to open up... big time :D It REALLY FLIES! I'm starting to somehow feel the power more now... esp. say doing 3r gear at 50ish on an on-ramp then zoom-zoom, back pushes into the seat and get then ready for takeoff. Nice rush!
07-31-2003, 08:08 PM
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Re: **The RX-8 IS FREAKIN FAST**
Originally posted by Efini 8
damn this car is fast! It feels more powerful than the evo8! I drove both today back to back. And I must say I loved the feel of the rx-8. adapting to the car will be necessary because it had to much power that I kept burning out. the rpms jump and it looks so NICE!
damn this car is fast! It feels more powerful than the evo8! I drove both today back to back. And I must say I loved the feel of the rx-8. adapting to the car will be necessary because it had to much power that I kept burning out. the rpms jump and it looks so NICE!
Disclaimer: I've never driven an Evo, but I've driven a modded FD (300rwhp). I imagine those are comparable in acceleration times (i.e. 0-60, 1/4)
07-31-2003, 08:27 PM
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Yeah, the RX-8 is a blast to drive! I finally got to test drive one today and I just had that ear to ear grin on my face. My mother put in an order for a Winning Blue AT due sometime in 8-12 weeks. That works out perfectly because we have some other things to take care of, so no rush. 
07-31-2003, 08:34 PM
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I HAVE driven the EVO, and it is very fast, esp. as the boost just pins itself when you floor the accelerator. Then the car does one of these staged acceleration 1-2-3-4-5-gone takeoffs that feels like some BIG hand has just started pushing you hard-HARD-HARDER from behind ! You really go.. the RX-8 hasn't that initial startoff feeling, but once it get wound up say 5000 rpm, it does a fair approximation of the EVO acceleration. TRY THEM BOTH.. EVOs are easy to get ahold of, just visit a Mitsu dealer....
07-31-2003, 09:51 PM
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A 300rwhp FD would absolutely rape a (stock) Evo, and it wouldn't be pretty. 
The evo probably puts out somewhere in the neighborhood of ~230 whp. I'd expect an RX-8 to get about 215rwhp. Of course, the Evo will have a wider powerband due to the turbo, but during the intervals at which the RX-8 is in the upper rev range, I'd expect that the acceleration feel is about the same. (since the weight:whp ratio is about the same at that point)
The evo probably puts out somewhere in the neighborhood of ~230 whp. I'd expect an RX-8 to get about 215rwhp. Of course, the Evo will have a wider powerband due to the turbo, but during the intervals at which the RX-8 is in the upper rev range, I'd expect that the acceleration feel is about the same. (since the weight:whp ratio is about the same at that point)
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hi guys, been lurkin' on this site for a while, but never posted because, sadly, the rx-8 is waayyyy out of my price range. plus i'll have to wait a couple years before i can purchase a car of any kind (3rd-gen rx-7, maybe?)
anyway, i felt the urge to post a reply in defense of the evo. one of my best friends owns one, and i can tell you guys that it's difficult to imagine it being raped by a 300hp FD. i think it'd be pretty close, actually.
it's just that for an evo, your 30K is buying you pure performance and zero luxury (interior looks really cheap). depends on where your priorities lay. pricewise the rx-8 and evo are neck and neck, but there's no question which one i'd rather walk out the door with :D
anyway, i felt the urge to post a reply in defense of the evo. one of my best friends owns one, and i can tell you guys that it's difficult to imagine it being raped by a 300hp FD. i think it'd be pretty close, actually.
it's just that for an evo, your 30K is buying you pure performance and zero luxury (interior looks really cheap). depends on where your priorities lay. pricewise the rx-8 and evo are neck and neck, but there's no question which one i'd rather walk out the door with :D
08-01-2003, 04:41 AM
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An FD is what , 500-600llbs lighter than an EVO and only RWD, not 4WD (less drivetrain power loss, by 8% or so = 25bhp +).
Those together, in the dry will make the FD a lot quicker than the EVO.
Wet/poor roads it may be a different story.
Those together, in the dry will make the FD a lot quicker than the EVO.
Wet/poor roads it may be a different story.
08-01-2003, 04:53 AM
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Originally posted by m477
A 300rwhp FD would absolutely rape a (stock) Evo, and it wouldn't be pretty.
The evo probably puts out somewhere in the neighborhood of ~230 whp. I'd expect an RX-8 to get about 215rwhp. Of course, the Evo will have a wider powerband due to the turbo, but during the intervals at which the RX-8 is in the upper rev range, I'd expect that the acceleration feel is about the same. (since the weight:whp ratio is about the same at that point)
A 300rwhp FD would absolutely rape a (stock) Evo, and it wouldn't be pretty.
The evo probably puts out somewhere in the neighborhood of ~230 whp. I'd expect an RX-8 to get about 215rwhp. Of course, the Evo will have a wider powerband due to the turbo, but during the intervals at which the RX-8 is in the upper rev range, I'd expect that the acceleration feel is about the same. (since the weight:whp ratio is about the same at that point)
08-01-2003, 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by Genom
Thats what I said when I was doing about 20MPH in second and floored it :D
Salesguy was looking a bit pale now that I think of it....
Thats what I said when I was doing about 20MPH in second and floored it :D
Salesguy was looking a bit pale now that I think of it....
Didn't get on the engine too much during the test drive, but enough to feel how fast the engine can take off ... It was certainly an experience ...
Props to Justin.... yer da man!
08-01-2003, 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by kostas*
I think you assume too much. So far the only think we know for a fact, is that power output of the RX8 is about 180 rwhp (if you take a look a dyno thread).
I think you assume too much. So far the only think we know for a fact, is that power output of the RX8 is about 180 rwhp (if you take a look a dyno thread).
The dyno was for the LOW POWER engine.
Also, this confirms that the RX-8 has approximately a 15% drivetrain loss, which means my original estimate of 215 rwhp is pretty much dead on.
I have also seen dyno results from an EVO at 255whp (of course maybe in my country EVO is been importet with different specifications than the US. Official output is 280HP). So there is much difference between them.
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08-01-2003, 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by m477
The dyno was for the LOW POWER engine.
Also, this confirms that the RX-8 has approximately a 15% drivetrain loss, which means my original estimate of 215 rwhp is pretty much dead on.
The dyno was for the LOW POWER engine.
Also, this confirms that the RX-8 has approximately a 15% drivetrain loss, which means my original estimate of 215 rwhp is pretty much dead on.
08-01-2003, 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by BOOSTD 7
You guys are on crack if you think an EVO would have a snowballs chance against a 300 rwhp FD ... nuff said.
You guys are on crack if you think an EVO would have a snowballs chance against a 300 rwhp FD ... nuff said.
Oh.. my bad... I didn't see the part that said the FD had a flat and was missing a plug...
08-01-2003, 02:18 PM
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Wow, I created quite a ruckus with the comparison to a 300rwhp FD. Now that I look back to it, I was mistaken. I was just thinking in terms of off-the-line acceleration times (not taking into account of the AWD). Would a comparison to a stock FD be more precise?
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Stock for Stock, the EVO should win from a stop. From a highway roll, the RX7 should win easily. On most tracks, I'd go with the RX7. On back, twisty roads (especially ones not in perfect condition), I'd go with the EVO. It can be a bit more interesting with some of the more extreme EVO and RX7 versions over seas (RS Sprint and 280 HP RX7), but I still think the RX7 is the much better track car.
Both cars can be modded to be pretty sick, so its silly to compare stock versions of one to modded of the other.
Still, the EVO is quite competitive in stock form for a car that seats four, gets better gas mileage & emissions, can be driven in all seasons, is not a total maintenance nightmare and about $20K cheaper (adjusting the RX7s 1995 price into todays dollars).
Both cars can be modded to be pretty sick, so its silly to compare stock versions of one to modded of the other.
Still, the EVO is quite competitive in stock form for a car that seats four, gets better gas mileage & emissions, can be driven in all seasons, is not a total maintenance nightmare and about $20K cheaper (adjusting the RX7s 1995 price into todays dollars).
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Originally posted by revhappy
Still, the EVO is quite competitive in stock form for a car that seats four, gets better gas mileage & emissions, can be driven in all seasons, is not a total maintenance nightmare and about $20K cheaper (adjusting the RX7s 1995 price into todays dollars).
Still, the EVO is quite competitive in stock form for a car that seats four, gets better gas mileage & emissions, can be driven in all seasons, is not a total maintenance nightmare and about $20K cheaper (adjusting the RX7s 1995 price into todays dollars).
But which one do the ladies like?
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Originally posted by Boozehound
But which one do the ladies like?
But which one do the ladies like?
08-01-2003, 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Boozehound
But which one do the ladies like?
But which one do the ladies like?
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Originally posted by Boozehound
But which one do the ladies like?
But which one do the ladies like?
Of course, the fact that it has a backseat also can come in handy. :D
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Originally posted by revhappy
Hehe.....but it for $20K (estimated price difference), is too steep a price to get some...... Of course, the fact that it has a backseat also can come in handy. :D
Hehe.....but it for $20K (estimated price difference), is too steep a price to get some......
Of course, the fact that it has a backseat also can come in handy. :D
Ladies like the back seat of a car only when:
a) It's a friggin' limo!
b) It's a $100k+ car!
c) It's the only thing to lay on other than dirt within a 100 mile radius!
d) You're a movie star, a rock star or a multi-millionaire!
e) The *** end of your car looks better than hers!
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