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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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+1 for casting marks looking like fine cracks in aluminium.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 05:23 PM
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The parts from rx8performance came in yesterday and man are they beautiful. Shipping was fast too. excited for those trio cannister to come.
I was wondering why 9k was in a grouchy mood that day ....
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 05:06 PM
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Heres an update for everyone. Some cool little bits while I financially recover from overspending. Bought a 5-Spd Rx8 Trans as well, not shown.




Canister Trio





Double Throttle delete





Polished UIM





Polished WP Housing





Polished and sanded WP
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 05:10 PM
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Talk is cheap as they say.




Custom Engine Mount





Turbo Hotside (.91 A/R)





S366 Turbo Compressor





Oil Cooler Lines





High-flow Oil Coolers

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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 06:13 PM
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You can shave a lot of that stuff off the UIM for a cleaner look.

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Looking great bro!!

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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 07:58 PM
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Thanks! You are absolutely right. I have done it all by wire wheel atm and boy is it work! I'm sure if I find a few drill heads stepping to finer grits I could convince myself to do it. Looking into it, all the 3M radial brushes seem to be around 20 bucks a piece. Did you use something similar?
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 07:14 AM
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do yourself a favor and just send it to a professional polisher
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LiveWire
Thanks! You are absolutely right. I have done it all by wire wheel atm and boy is it work! I'm sure if I find a few drill heads stepping to finer grits I could convince myself to do it. Looking into it, all the 3M radial brushes seem to be around 20 bucks a piece. Did you use something similar?
How I did it on the DIY poor man in the garage scale....

First remember wear some breathing protection when sanding aluminum!!
A Dremal tool is your friend for all the nooks and crannies.
Then sand in stages 200, 400, 800, 1000 and 2000 grit.
Knock down all the casting... It's gotta be smooth, if not it'll show in the final buffing.
Final step will be a buffing wheel w/white compound.
I bought everything from HF.
Google polishing aluminum, plenty of info to help you out.


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do yourself a favor and just send it to a professional polisher
Then he would miss out on all the fun


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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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We polish stainless and I've done a few aluminum jobs myself, the most recent being a Renesis LIM (ports only, not exterior). A pro has all the right stuff to do the job efficiently. The mess/health factor alone warrants letting someone else handle it. The fine grit gets into everything.
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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Looking good. Are you going with the rx8 throttle body? If so, have you figured out what adapter you might use? I have tried to contact FFE regarding the fit of their rew to 90mm adapter, but haven't received a response.
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 06:24 PM
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I am going to go with the FD Throttle Body. I am one of the old fashioned drive by cable people. I plan on giving up Traction control/Dynamic stability control. In my experience, it has been more of a hindrance than a plus due to how slowly it reacts (the DSC not the throttle body). I am hoping to find a way around losing cruise control, but if I do so be it.
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Old Apr 1, 2015 | 11:42 AM
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Completely necessary for the build...

The wing quality was absolute crap. Luckily I had a contact from my brother who is a body work guru. Picking her up tonight!

Some actually goodies for the swap on the way.




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Old Apr 1, 2015 | 03:44 PM
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Wow, that's one kite... Are you going to be doing Time Attack?
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Old Apr 1, 2015 | 03:51 PM
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I would think at that angle of attack is is likely stalled. It looks similar to the APR wing profile...they have setup instructions for there wing on the site
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Old Apr 1, 2015 | 08:18 PM
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Dumb.
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Old Apr 1, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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Probably not anytime soon, but I'll be doing something on the track eventually.

I'll check it out. I haven't adjusted it yet, I actually just got home from picking it up. There are only 3 settings to choose from so that's all I get! It is very similar to the APR design.

And we are all entitled to our opinions, I just happen to like this style. One could also say spending so much on a car is dumb. I don't think it is, but who am I to say what's right for everyone?
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 01:44 AM
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Personally your exhaust tips are my least favorite thing. We'll get over it. Carry on!
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 07:01 AM
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The tips will be fixed when the car goes to the shop for the motor swap. It is on the to do list =)

Shrouds keep melting. I have yet to find a good solution for those. Went through the trouble of 2000 degree paint and baking but no luck.
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Legot
Wow, that's one kite... Are you going to be doing Time Attack?
Not with that thing. The height makes it illegal for a LOT of sanctioning bodies. It also is just a huge air brake. It's a product that mostly drifters buy to look cool.
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 06:02 PM
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You are correct, you cannot exceed the roof line in most circumstances. It definitely slows the car down, but the force has to be put somewhere and the only direction left is down. But I guess you could say I am just getting caught up in "theory". Handling has changed slightly, I can't produce data because I really don't have a way to take it.

Yes, similar results in handling could have been achieved in other ways. However, if I can break traction with 169ftlbs (max) then eliminating as much lift as possible isn't a bad thing for when the motor is twice as strong.

I think I will call you out on this Arca_ex. Sure, it is probably not the most efficient spoiler in the world, but saying that it is JUST a huge air brake is wrong.
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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 10:22 PM
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However, if I can break traction with 169ftlbs (max) then eliminating as much lift as possible isn't a bad thing for when the motor is twice as strong.
At what speed can you break traction? I believe that by the time (speed wise) that a properly setup wing really starts doing its job, you wouldn't be able to break traction with that torque even without the wing. As it sits right now, I'd have to agree with Arca. Too steep of an angle man.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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The traction breaks when shifting 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd during full pulls. Obviously my sub-par street tires don't help the situation but reducing lift in the rear end is never a bad thing. Yes, the wing is not a solution, just a step to improve how the car looks and handles.

Here is a picture of the APR wing that this wing is similar too.

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f...c-300_wing.jpg

I have a hunch the decks' shapes are exactly the same, or at least close to it. If anyone really doubts, I can go measure.

Now lets address the AOA. If you look at the APR wing, you see the angle of the leading edge is far different than the trailing edge. The pictures of my car are deceiving because you cannot see the leading edge of the wing very well. The side plates are also making it look like it has a larger AOA than it actually does. I had adjusted those at a later time than the pics were taken as well.

I think this discussion may end up being a bit much for my thread. I would be obliged if we moved it to a separate thread if anyone really wants to dive into the specifics.

Iizuka, Dannobre was actually the one who commented on the AOA.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 08:47 PM
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Wtf, if you're breaking traction with 169 ft-lb torque on a 2 - 3 shift then your tires must be total sh-t. The wing is only just starting to work at that speed range and likely has little impact. The AOA os more than obvious in the pic of your car. As Dan stated, it's stalled in that position.

Then again maybe the reason you're spinning tires so hard is because of that barn door anchor drag on the trunk
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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The wing is stalled out. The downforce it may or may not be creating is not worth the amount of drag from a lap time perspective. It would probably have a negative effect at a drag strip as well. Not to mention that the whole point of having a 3D airfoil like that is so that it can be mounted low and near the trunk lid. The wing is for looks, and that's fine, but I would probably steer clear of claiming that it has any performance benefits.

Also like Team said, if you can break traction on a 2-3 shift then your tires must be like 600 treadwear chinese all seasons.

I'm done though, looking forward to swap stuff.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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Trailing to leading (highest point) is 3 degrees. Trailing to leading (lowest point) is 18 degrees. Currently. Not in the pic. It has been in this position since 4/2

From APR, the max AOA:

http://aprperformance.com/wp-content..._outer27.5.jpg

Exedy Twin disc still hasn't arrived. Also, does anyone have any tips for removing super stuck side seals? Still haven't got those out. The rest of the rotors are in spec, it would be a shame to waste them.
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