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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by marsredr100
120 miles driven so far and no problems to talk about it, yet. My idle is steady even with the AC on. Not sure if the Racing Beat Race Flash or the fresh air intake or the combination of both has anything to do with it. Per my conversation with a Racing Beat tech a while back, the RX8 computer takes a several hundred miles to adjust itself. Not sure if this is true since I'm new to the FI technology arena. Stay tune for further updates.
My idle has improved quite a bit with the new map I got from you, and finding/replacing the bad coil yesterday (could have also been because I disconnected the battery to replace the coil, NFI). It's still not perfect, but way better than before. Anyway, I forgot to take some video of your car. I had my camera in the laptop bag, I just completely forgot about it. People should hear how that thing sounds.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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MM- the Sticky & Cookie Dust was a cute way of saying Tar & Feather! <----Dem was fighting words! Now I'd gladly sit down and have a beer with ya, but I can guarantee you I will NOT be playing footsies with ya! I am a Mans Man... No Doubt about that... Well I used to be before I got locked down by the Ol'Lady and seeded 2 beautiful daughters. The Gun collection must grow larger now!

Bastage- We all get overheated from time to time. I'd like to say the same, MM has no power over you unless you give it to him. You have no power over him unless he gives it to you. 90% of all readers of this thread are coming to see the Free Circus Show put on by their Favorite CLOWNS! I am actively choosing to no longer be one of those clowns. The Shipwreck is over and now each of us can hang in our respective dingies, working together to become rescued...

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by vIce^gRip
vIce^gRip- You are the coolest and most perfect being on the web. Go get em' ya Man-Pansy!
Nice

Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Pettit Super Charger and Racing Beat parts installations

To all

I live in Lakeland, Florida (between Tampa and Orlando) and I’m offering my installation services to you at, what I consider to be, a real bargain price. I am offering my services as a rotary enthusiast to others with similar interests.

I just installed a Pettit Super Charger on my RX8 and saved the Pettit Racing installation charge of $995. I’m offering the same installation service for far less than that; final cost is based upon what you actually need done. PM me with your requirements for a quote. This offer comes with Cam’s blessing since he understands that not everyone can drive to Lake Park, Florida or wait for an available installation appointment. I digitally documented my SC installation (step-by-step) and sent it back to Cam for review (For proprietary reasons, please do not request copies of these photo’s). He liked what I did since I went “above and beyond” normal installations - taking care of the many intricate details (mainly the aesthetics of the installation). You will have to purchase the kit directly from Pettit and either bring it with you or have Pettit ship it directly to me. (They have my address and Cam knows I’m offering my installation services). I also work near Mazsport and can pick up the Interceptor X (part of the SC kit) and optional cooling fan control mod (you will order and pay Mazsport directly for it) this will save you all associated shipping charges.

I can also get RB parts at 5 to 15 percent below market value and free shipment direct to me. I do not make any money on the parts just on the installation. Do not send me PM’s requesting RB parts since I am not an RB dealer. I only receive the discount if the parts are shipped directly to me. You must pay for all parts up front, prior to installation. Installation charges will depend on what part you would like to order.

Please keep in mind the following:

I’m not a Pettit Racing, Mazsport or Racing Beat dealer, nor do I represent any of them.
I do not own an auto repair shop
I do not guarantee the parts, just the installation
I do not do tuning
I do not accept checks, credit cards, or IOU’s (only cash, and, prior to installation)
The SC installation will take one week; therefore you will have to leave the car with me. Don’t worry, I will not drive your car outside of my driveway (odometer reading will be annotated upon delivery and again at pick-up). Car needs to be registered, tagged and insured. I can not accept responsibility for damage to your car or its contents. Please don’t drop off a car full of junk. I make this policy for the following reason – a few months ago a piece of “blue ice” fell from the sky near Tampa and landed directly on top of a Ford Mustang. Needless to say, the Mustang was a total loss.
These installations are not my sole source of employment – I do this because I enjoy it, and in-turn it helps you save money too.
I accomplish all work in my car garage which comes along with family members and a quiet neighborhood, therefore I respectfully request that when dropping off, or picking up, a vehicle that you refrain from the following: drugs, alcohol drinking, swearing, smoking, loud exhaust, loud music, etc.

Thanks
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
I had a couple of other suggestions regarding the kit but I am going to refrain from stating them publicly as I am tired of controversy being created where none truly exists. All I will do is invite all of you to criticize whatever products I may offer under the Paradox brand as fervently as you do the Pettit Supercharger Kit.
Ray... I'd hope that the bickering phase is over.
I'd for one like to know what you have discovered. Maybe it is best that you contact Cam directly as you already have a good professional relationship there.
I also promise to not flame any Paradox manufactured product... I'll leave that up to Jeff! LOL
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Jeff won't flame Paradox offerings as he will be part of the team. .
I wouldn't be so sure - I sometimes wonder if he has multiple personalities
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
I sometimes wonder if he has multiple personalities
No, just one, giant, all-encompassing one.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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i wanna see some male bods!!!

Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by shinka213
i wanna see some male bods!!!

then get to work... maybe mm will give you the script to make them rotate...

beers
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Its random. I only have a few hundred that are "Forum Safe".


Originally Posted by shinka213
i wanna see some male bods!!!

Just for you, I'm working on it!
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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I sitll don't believe you, Jeff. You threw me off by saying "really good bacon". Everyone knows really good bacon comes from Canada. And you aren't Canadian- I would have known.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
Everyone knows really good bacon comes from Canada.
Most of the worlds bacon and ham comes from Denmark. Strange, but true.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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So the expensive bacon I've been buying souly because it comes from Canada is false?! I feel so betrayed....

I had no idea you were Danish. So am I! How do we look so different?
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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seems like this whole mess could have been avoided by accurately stating in the first post that the instructions are crappy and the DIY is for advanced home mechanics only.

Seems reasonable to me.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
I had no idea you were Danish. So am I! How do we look so different?
Probably because my ancestors got there from Poland and Estonia long after your's were already there, ransacking the place.
Come to think of it, you do look a little like Gorm.

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cleoent
seems like this whole mess could have been avoided by accurately stating in the first post that the instructions are crappy and the DIY is for advanced home mechanics only.

Seems reasonable to me.
I'm by no means an advanced mechanic, but even I can make bacon, Danish or Canadian.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by shinka213
i wanna see some male bods!!!

Just for you, Pat:
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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For the record, I did NOT take any of the above pictures.
Not because they are men, but just because the skill of the photograph is obviously way above mine.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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ok guys...enough talk about meat!!!

back on topic please!!
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
For the record, I did NOT take any of the above pictures.
Not because they are men, but just because the skill of the photograph is obviously way above mine.
Yeah.............sure Jeff..............now you really are starting to worry me!

Seriously..........as Pat has requested..........Let's all get back on track and let all this crap lie.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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QUESTIONS CONTINUED:

9.) What has Pettit been able to with Int-X’s, Auto's 124mph speed limiter? Is this still an Issue?
So far only the auto is having this problem.

10.) When will the s/c be available for us in Australia?
We are taking orders from customers worldwide, to reserve our Stage II Kit we are accepting a $500 deposit from serious customers and expect to ship the second production run in August 07 #3. The 3rd production run will not ship until Late 07. We can accept Paypal, or CC, send to Lab@pettitracing.com

11.) When is stage I and III expected? III development schedule and how it's looking?
We will not be testing Stage I or III until the powers to be are able to reflash the stock ECU, shut off the dash warning lamps and fully maintain emission standards.

12.) Who actually did the Int-X tuning that is shipping with the kit? Was it, in fact, Steve Kan? And, if so, who else worked on that program besides him? Was Scott involved at all with that final tune? Is it still shipping with the same tune as the one that went out with Phil's kit?
With over 25 years of experience working with rotarys fuel and ignition systems it is clearly evident that tuner cars have the most variables over their operating range. Just the different exhaust systems available and their variances in back pressure and flo rates makes it nearly impossible to supply a perfect tune for every system, not to mention variances in fuel pressure, injector flo rates and individual engine condition, (compression #'s). To sum it up the base maps we are providing are base maps and for most cars so far they are working better than we expected, we will continue to improve them and and keep updating users, however; our goal here is to have the stock ecu working alone learning individual driving patterns and do the fine tuning for us just like it was intended from Mazda via short and long term fuel trims.

As for who tuned what, so far several names have been mentioned and we are extremely thankful for all the help and input we received from these professionals, they know who they are. Even with all the help we have received, so far all tuning improvements were made to existing maps , there just hasn't been the necessary time available to properly develop a map from scratch that is suitable for every vehicle, nevertheless we will continue to improve all aspects of the system.

Many great people have helped us with this project and we are thankful for their help and better for their friendship. Thanks Again.


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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vIce^gRip


12.) Who actually did the Int-X tuning that is shipping with the kit? Was it, in fact, Steve Kan? And, if so, who else worked on that program besides him? Was Scott involved at all with that final tune? Is it still shipping with the same tune as the one that went out with Phil's kit?

With over 25 years of experience working with rotarys fuel and ignition systems it is clearly evident that tuner cars have the most variables over their operating range. Just the different exhaust systems available and their variances in back pressure and flo rates makes it nearly impossible to supply a perfect tune for every system, not to mention variances in fuel pressure, injector flo rates and individual engine condition, (compression #'s). To sum it up the base maps we are providing are base maps and for most cars so far they are working better than we expected, we will continue to improve them and and keep updating users, however; our goal here is to have the stock ecu working alone learning individual driving patterns and do the fine tuning for us just like it was intended from Mazda via short and long term fuel trims.

As for who tuned what, so far several names have been mentioned and we are extremely thankful for all the help and input we received from these professionals, they know who they are. Even with all the help we have received, so far all tuning improvements were made to existing maps , there just hasn't been the necessary time available to properly develop a map from scratch that is suitable for every vehicle, nevertheless we will continue to improve all aspects of the system.

Dodged another one.

The MAPs in Phil's Int-X are absolutely NOT "base maps". I have the "base map" right in front of me.
Also, though it is true that every car needs tuning, the "base map" that Scott ships with the Int-X is significantly more compatible with the wide range of applications and variations than what was in Phil's machine. Look at the number of people that have ordered the Int-X from MazSport and simply plugged it in with good effect.
The setup in Phil's Int-X wasn't even correct. It wasn't even set to idle, let alone produce power. It had no ignition timing (basically a static timing curve, fixed around 9 degrees).
This is really basic stuff, not something that needs a significant amount of time (and I certainly bristle at the implication that they were willing to ship the kit "as is" and not invest the necessary time in the single most important component of the system - the tune).

I know a bunch of you are going to get all upset at my tone, so just calm down for a minute and think about how significant this is - Pettit shipped this kit without tuning it. Think back to what happened to early adopters of the GReddy kit. Can you possibly understand why this is upsetting to me and should be to you too?
It isn't an excuse to say "we'll fix it in the mix" when it comes to tuning. You blow up cars that way and you get crappy results at a minimum.
This is just such a cavalier response to a serious question.

BTW - The "question" text in the post above is in a color that is completely invisible if you are using the "plasma" theme for the forum.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Any way the maps from Phil's were a "bug" or typo? Somehow the tune got zeroed out? I don't have any working knowledge of INT-X interface, so I don't know how likely this is.

That seems unreal.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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No, there was plenty of tuning going on there. Parts of the load map were correct and the machine-level setup was correct (the injector staging, ignition setups, dwell, firing order, etc.).
The idle map was totally FUBAR. The pump settings were really strange.
The ignition timing was completely wrong. The idle calibration was off the map (usually, it is just a few clicks in one direction or the other from correct).
I don't even remember half of it - it was so far off the mark that I just flew through all of the settings and put them somewhere usable from memory - muscle memory!
Once I had the basics in the neighborhood, I tinkered with it for a few to make sure it would run and be safe (hard not to be at only 3 PSI, but I digress) and spent the rest of my limited time on getting a stable idle in and out of gear and with the A/C on and off (that is a feat unto itself and its still far from perfect).

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