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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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With the costs of such a swap, I'd go rew.
Interesting idea, not my style

...and why is monchie in every single thread with some random vague response?
If the question is yes or no, monchie is like; "maybe"

I considered this engine for a long time for my classic build.
Honduh's better engine but not better than a 13b with a huge hairdryer.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by monchie
Yes, you too.
and back at you

except neither you or I are objecting to it in the process, guess we're just old school that way ...
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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You all realize you make him the center of attention in threads by making comments about him and or responding to his comments?
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
You all realize you make him the center of attention in threads by making comments about him and or responding to his comments?
yes. I try to refrain, but alas, i could not.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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if everone put him on their ignore list then u wouldnt see his comments and the troll would givwe up.....
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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I don't know what to think about this swap . The engine is so similar in performance it is kinda like saying " I give up on the rotary- it's crap, but i want the same feel you get from a high revving engine".
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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Sorry, but the Fueleconomy.gov ratings give the 04 s2k about the same as the rx-8. if i'm gonna swap in a 4cyl.. why not a 30-35mpg getting 1.5-1.7 civic engine? even if you do wind up with half as much hp. AND if you're going for hp... why not a Ls1, or turbo LS1 for that matter.... Because, people are looking for the "neat" factor, or" it's not been done before."

lets make a hybrid rx-8. like tomorrow. wankle and DC. Together, forever.

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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
"I give up on the rotary- it's fragile, but i want the same feel you get from a high revving engine, but at twice the power level and without any of the tuning complications and difficulties".
Fixed.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Sure there are other swaps, but WRT weight:

Renesis - 300# dressed
F20C - 325# dressed
LS1 - 500# dressed


an F20C is relatively small too

25.5" H x 20" L (with pulley) x 14.5" W (at the bell housing end)


MM summed it up well, installing a direct side mount GTX3076R on an F20C should be possible in the RX8 chassis @ 575 whp reliably

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/7885...t__p__20762499

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/7885...t__p__20243383


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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chad D.
...and why is monchie in every single thread with some random vague response?
If the question is yes or no, monchie is like; "maybe"

I like being in the middle...if you know what i mean.

Originally Posted by TeamRX8
and back at you

except neither you or I are objecting to it in the process, guess we're just old school that way ...

Yes.

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You all realize you make him the center of attention in threads by making comments about him and or responding to his comments?

What can i say. I love being the center of attention...it's like the paparazzi is always after me...lol

Originally Posted by Chad D.
yes. I try to refrain, but alas, i could not.

Just say you are addicted to it.

Originally Posted by mike[piston eater]
if everone put him on their ignore list then u wouldnt see his comments and the troll would givwe up.....

I want everybody to see it, that's how i like it. Anyway, if you want to put me in your ignore list, then all i could say is...i'll miss you and take care.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Sure there are other swaps, but WRT weight:

Renesis - 300# dressed
F20C - 325# dressed
LS1 - 500# dressed


an F20C is relatively small too

25.5" H x 20" L (with pulley) x 14.5" W (at the bell housing end)


MM summed it up well, installing a direct side mount GTX3076R on an F20C should be possible in the RX8 chassis @ 575 whp reliably

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/7885...t__p__20762499

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/7885...t__p__20243383


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that right there says it all, cant wait til i see mm's progress
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
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Renesis - 300# dressed
F20C - 325# dressed
LS1 - 500# dressed
an F20C is relatively small too
25.5" H x 20" L (with pulley) x 14.5" W (at the bell housing end)
FWIW, those weights ALL seem a tad high, but my basis for that is just having huffed them around the shop manually.

The pulley to bell housing length was also about an inch less on the F20C that is sitting here. Height was less as well, so we might not be measuring from the same spots.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 05:24 AM
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MM - are you planning to go with the side mount GTX3076R turbo
what numbers could you expect? ~550 - 600ish
lastly are you planning to use the S2000 ECU or a stand-alone? id bet on the stand-alone considering the source
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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Hey, I know the owner of that S2000 Miata. His name is Grant..I use to drive with him. He's had many fun toys over the years. (Supra, ACR Viper, SRT8 Magnum, Miata, etc)
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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now he has like a fleet of miatas i believe lol
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by slvrstreak
MM - are you planning to go with the side mount GTX3076R turbo
what numbers could you expect? ~550 - 600ish
I'm using a GT3076 (not a GTX) on a divided manifold (that I designed myself).
I am limited by class to 330 HP, but not limited on torque, so I will be tailoring the boost curve to that.


Originally Posted by slvrstreak
lastly are you planning to use the S2000 ECU or a stand-alone? id bet on the stand-alone considering the source
RX-8 PCM for everything but the fuel and spark, which will be AEM.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I'm using a GT3076 (not a GTX) on a divided manifold (that I designed myself).
that sounds like fun.

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I am limited by class to 330 HP, but not limited on torque, so I will be tailoring the boost curve to that.
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that's no fun.
although I'm sure there will be 'track settings' (map, BC, etc) and non-track settings.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
that's no fun.
That is a LOT of fun. 380 ft/lb of torque and 330 HP in an RX-8 will DESTROY just about ANYTHING one might come across.


Originally Posted by Jedi54
although I'm sure there will be 'track settings' (map, BC, etc) and non-track settings.
Well, I will wring it out, but it kinda needs to be set to what I am gonna compete with so I don't get challenged if I am suddenly much faster.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
That is a LOT of fun. 380 ft/lb of torque and 330 HP in an RX-8 will DESTROY just about ANYTHING one might come across.
I worded that incorrectly.
I should have put, that's not as much fun as it COULD be.
But yea, any 300+ hp RX-8 can be a TON of fun, I can only imagine that kinnda torque.

now hurry up with that swap, I wanna throw this beast on SR's dyno.

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Well, I will wring it out, but it kinda needs to be set to what I am gonna compete with so I don't get challenged if I am suddenly much faster.
on second thought, I wanna see THIS on the dyno.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Build thread??
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
RX-8 PCM for everything but the fuel and spark, which will be AEM.
hmm....so say hypothetically, if someone else did do this engine swap...you SHOULD technically be able to customize a tune for said individual/engine, correct?

hmm i would have thought the PCM side of things would be very difficult to rig up using the RX-8s...but then again we have to consider the source

this build is getting more and more tempting
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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What about 2.2L V-tec swap (F22C1)- much better power band - more usable power. Much better option unless you just want high redline.

A local guy swaped 2.2 in to his s2000 (that used to have 2.0) - much better low end power and higher top end with same boltons.
230whp with intake,exhaust, headers - no tune. Same mods on 2.0 gave him 215whp
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