383 Stroker RX8 hoping for 500+ hp and tq buld.
03-19-2010, 10:23 AM
#76
Dude have you ran solid mounts on a high tq/hp car before? With the cam you are running and the power you will be playing with--sooner or later something is going to give. Not critizing now--please understand. But the vibrations are going to break something--- especially with a PPF setup. You also will be more likely to bend something.
Figue out a way to put some polys in there? And more of them. 3 mounts instead of 2?
OD
Figue out a way to put some polys in there? And more of them. 3 mounts instead of 2?
OD
03-19-2010, 11:03 AM
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I dunno, to me it just won't work. I don't see this project ever being successful. There are just some swap that should never be done. IMO, anyway.
But if we all did the same things it would be no fun anyway so good luck and hopefully I am proven wrong.
But if we all did the same things it would be no fun anyway so good luck and hopefully I am proven wrong.
03-20-2010, 10:22 AM
#81
Dude have you ran solid mounts on a high tq/hp car before? With the cam you are running and the power you will be playing with--sooner or later something is going to give. Not critizing now--please understand. But the vibrations are going to break something--- especially with a PPF setup. You also will be more likely to bend something.
Figue out a way to put some polys in there? And more of them. 3 mounts instead of 2?
OD
Figue out a way to put some polys in there? And more of them. 3 mounts instead of 2?
OD
Yeah I've gave a lot of thought about the bracing. I've added a lot of solid metal to the front end. Some are terrible worried about weight gain but I'm personally not. I've got the two mounts in the front there... I'm making braces that run towards the back...that run back down to the sub-frame. Then I have plans for a brace from the strut mount to the motor. I then have looked at welding a piece of 1/4 inch to the rails of the car a support to the transmission. On top of that even though the ppf would still be there. I'm also looking at adding some solid mounting to the rear. I basically plan on doing away with the ppf with the bracing I'm doing. But I'm going to leave the ppf for the extra strength.
As far as some poly. I've thought about putting about a 1/4 piece for a little padding. but IDK. figured I'd start it and see how she runs and what it feels like and then go from there.
03-20-2010, 10:27 AM
#82
In the end they both do the same thing. Just not sure what the signal power is compared to the OEM power...and the other thing is will my gauge be reading 1000 rpm when I'm 1000 or will it be like 4000 when it really is a 1000. Since it would be picking up 8 sparks per rotation rather then 2 per rotation.
03-24-2010, 02:16 AM
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technically it would be 3 per rotation of the crank on the wankel
(correct me if im wrong 2 ignitions on 1 rotor 1 on other depending where you start from)
compared to 1-4 per crank rotation on a v8 (depending on crank style)
so it souldnt be too far off if anything it would be showing lower rpms
but it may not read from the ignitions
it may read from the crank sensor this the experts would have to answer
so if you wire in the distribuator to the guage the rpms would show lower amount or wont work at all
since it would be voltage based off of the crank sensor or what not
or im completely wrong which is also a high possibility
(correct me if im wrong 2 ignitions on 1 rotor 1 on other depending where you start from)
compared to 1-4 per crank rotation on a v8 (depending on crank style)
so it souldnt be too far off if anything it would be showing lower rpms
but it may not read from the ignitions
it may read from the crank sensor this the experts would have to answer
so if you wire in the distribuator to the guage the rpms would show lower amount or wont work at all
since it would be voltage based off of the crank sensor or what not
or im completely wrong which is also a high possibility
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03-24-2010, 09:49 AM
#87
So give me a few days...and this car should be back on the road and I'll start giving you a heads up on everything. I still have a lot of the bracing and brackets to do that I haven't done.
As far as the cam it's one they show and offer but it's very aggressive it's only for street strip applications and it's a very aggressive cam for street use.
03-25-2010, 01:00 AM
#89
Without knowing the specs of the cam, 90% of all Street/Strip cams are entirely streetable. Its just basically down to when you want the power to come on and how big of a lope at idle.
If I could see the specs of the cam, I could figure on whether or not its a big street cam.
If I could see the specs of the cam, I could figure on whether or not its a big street cam.
03-25-2010, 04:36 PM
#90
Without knowing the specs of the cam, 90% of all Street/Strip cams are entirely streetable. Its just basically down to when you want the power to come on and how big of a lope at idle.
If I could see the specs of the cam, I could figure on whether or not its a big street cam.
If I could see the specs of the cam, I could figure on whether or not its a big street cam.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-K12-433-8/
Basic Operating RPM Range
2,500-6,000Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift
236Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift
242Duration at 050 inch Lift
236 int./242 exh.Advertised Intake Duration
288Advertised Exhaust Duration
294Advertised Duration
288 int./294 exh.
03-25-2010, 09:44 PM
#92
yea--you should have good vacuum with that grind.
KISS is a rule i have to remind myself all the time--i have a habit of "over thinking" things a bit
get a vid of when you fire it up!!
i would really like a picture of the underside once it all is in
OD
KISS is a rule i have to remind myself all the time--i have a habit of "over thinking" things a bit
get a vid of when you fire it up!!
i would really like a picture of the underside once it all is in
OD
03-26-2010, 08:20 AM
#93
First fire up??? well ya know I have a new cam I have to break in so it's got to sit up at around 2000 to 2500 to slash a good amount of oil up there for a good break in. Plus I'll only be running the headers at that point....new rings on a old bore well motor didn't have a lot of miles on the old bore..but still it isn't a fresh bore or homed engine...so it's going to take a while for these rings to seat well. So she is going to smoke pretty good at first.
But anyways I've been sick...so I've been working but not a whole lot. Plus I have two other cars that I'd doing transmission rebuilds on and then another that I got to swap a engine. So with being sick I really don't feel like working on my own once I've worked on the others.
03-26-2010, 09:41 AM
#94
understand that dude--take it easy and let the ole body recover. Thats comes 1st.
Oh and I understand that the engine will have to be in a "break in" mode --it just that if you do post a vid--it will be the 1st such vid of a v8 sound coming from a rx8 car that I know off.
the amount of hits that vid will take would be unbelieveable?
Oh and I understand that the engine will have to be in a "break in" mode --it just that if you do post a vid--it will be the 1st such vid of a v8 sound coming from a rx8 car that I know off.
the amount of hits that vid will take would be unbelieveable?
03-26-2010, 10:59 AM
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Roller cam engines don't really have any "break-in" that gets done in the driveway (no load). turn the key, get your timing/jetting close and go for a drive!
03-27-2010, 01:37 AM
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Well to let ya all know...tonight I finished putting the motor together and stuck it in the car for the very last time. Did some half *** wiring and bumped it over to hear it try and start. My battery was dead!!!! 
But anyways tomorrow we'll be making the brackets for the radiator and mounting that. Then it will be the wiring part.
Anyone know anything about the starting side of things??? I wired my starter up and tried to start it with the key and I could hear the relay clicking...but it wasn't sending juice to the starter to kick the solenoid. So I ended up just doing a jumper for now. But could it of been that my battery was dead or does the cpu control the cranking over as well??
But anyways tomorrow we'll be making the brackets for the radiator and mounting that. Then it will be the wiring part.Anyone know anything about the starting side of things??? I wired my starter up and tried to start it with the key and I could hear the relay clicking...but it wasn't sending juice to the starter to kick the solenoid. So I ended up just doing a jumper for now. But could it of been that my battery was dead or does the cpu control the cranking over as well??
03-27-2010, 02:37 AM
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I dont understand buying an RX8 and then taking the heart of it away... they are a unique breed and you just turn into something else... i would never do that and you could never justify it to me either..