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Old May 4, 2023 | 09:12 AM
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I have had my RX-8 for a year and have specific issues I would like to discuss but am unable to post in any of the issue specific forums! I am a member on several other forums related to other vehicles I own (Ford Superduty, Miata, Porsche, Jeep, etc) and have never run into this limitation on any of them.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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10 posts and 30 days requirement to make a new thread was put in place a few years back when we had a bad spambot problem here.
ask someone on the moderation team for help
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Old May 4, 2023 | 10:31 AM
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Well this is my 2004 RX-8 that I have done a build on and would like to share with the community. I also have a few issues that I need to resolve so I have questions as well. Thanks.

RX-8 build for the track (8TRAK)
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Old May 4, 2023 | 01:03 PM
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You can post them here in the new members section. That's totally normal and expected.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 02:39 PM
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Welcome, and fill us in with what you've done and what issues you're having.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 03:02 PM
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Well I want to do a complete build thread, but I did the Keisler automation conversion. Plus I installed Ohlin race coil-overs and Corbeau seats and harnesses with a 4 point rollbar.
I am having an issue with the Tach/digital speedo and wanted to know if I can just replace that module in the cluster or if i have to replace the whole cluster.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 03:08 PM
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Just swap the whole cluster. There is a guy on eBay who can fix the mileage for you as well. He’s based out of Colorado. Swapping the cluster takes all of 10 minutes.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 03:48 PM
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What is the actual issue with the speedo/tach?
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Old May 4, 2023 | 03:57 PM
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Thanks. Next question, the ABS light is on but the whole system is intact. What should I check for?
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Old May 4, 2023 | 04:18 PM
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You are going to have a lot of CAN errors. Without the RX8 crank sensor or a CAN message the car doesnt know what to do with no data to the dash..

Easiest thing is likely to go to a standalone dash that matches the ECU that you are using
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Old May 4, 2023 | 04:48 PM
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The speedo runs off the ABS sensors in each wheel, there isn't a vehicle speed sensor, so if your ABS is unhappy, that might be the speedo issue. Same for the tach if the ECU you're running isn't putting out a CAN rpm signal. So replacing the cluster with another 8 cluster won't accomplish a heck of a lot, +1 to going standalone.

Can you read the ABS code?
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Old May 4, 2023 | 05:16 PM
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This conversion uses the RX-8 CAS. When driving the tach and speedo work most of the time. They will just drop out occasionally for a second. It did the same thing before the conversion. The only two things remaining were the sensor and the tach/speedo module. I replaced the sensor but the issue persists.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 05:56 PM
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Learned something new today.. didn't realize that the manual used the 4 abs sensors to determine speed.

@1StopJeff If you're building a track car, sign up for mazda motorsports. Then buy all 4 sensors brand new. This is what I would be doing if I were you.

I looked up my car which is a 2010 and found these part numbers and prices
43-711 F151-43-71Y SENSOR(R),RR-A.B.S. $58.57
43-711Z F151-43-72Y SENSOR(L),RR-A.B.S. $58.57
43-71ZA F151-43-70XA HARNESS (R),FRT-A.B.S. $53.40
43-72ZA F151-43-73XA HARNESS (L),FRT-A.B.S. $55.22


For the $220 plus shipping.. I'd rather drop that money than muck around trying to find out which one is causing the issue.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 06:01 PM
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@Speed7, good idea. I raced SM for 10 years and bought a lot through Mazda Motorsports. Hopefully that will fix my ABS issue but the tach/speedo issue acts like a bad ground in the module.
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Old May 4, 2023 | 06:09 PM
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@Speed7, good idea. I raced SM for 10 years and bought a lot through Mazda Motorsports. Hopefully that will fix my ABS issue but the tach/speedo issue acts like a bad ground in the module.
Yeah when it comes to issues like this.. I always have to calculate my time vs money.. figure out what I have more of.. usually I have less time and just toss a whole new part at it. FWIW.. I've not had one of these fail yet. But with any electronics they can die over time. My track car is a 2009 and is not used for any day to day driving. So it's only in use 4 weekends a year. So in "theory" I shouldn't have an issue with that part for awhile.
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Old May 12, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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Any update on how your issues are going? Did the ABS sensors fix the speedometer issue?
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Old May 12, 2023 | 05:43 PM
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I haven't replaced them yet. I did hook the scanner to the Mazda ODB2 port and there were no ABS related codes. So next is to replace the sensors.
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