New Richmond thread (03/04/04)
03-23-2004, 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Hanzo
I am surprised he didn't start pulling on you until 3rd gear. Yes it only has 240hp but it has 236 lb of torque. And it weighs round 3100 lbs so about the same as your car. The key here is torque.
You actually did very well consider how much more torque he has with the M3.
What color was it? Yellow? If it was yellow that guy has some mod on the engine, not stock.
I am surprised he didn't start pulling on you until 3rd gear. Yes it only has 240hp but it has 236 lb of torque. And it weighs round 3100 lbs so about the same as your car. The key here is torque.
You actually did very well consider how much more torque he has with the M3.
What color was it? Yellow? If it was yellow that guy has some mod on the engine, not stock.
But, in any case a M3 is not something to play with either..
All you need to do is lighten the RX8 up a bit. Free up some of that torque..and u should see some change.
03-23-2004, 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by 9-K Rever
Yup... did well..but tourque is a virture that the RX8 lacks..
But, in any case a M3 is not something to play with either..
All you need to do is lighten the RX8 up a bit. Free up some of that torque..and u should see some change.
Yup... did well..but tourque is a virture that the RX8 lacks..
But, in any case a M3 is not something to play with either..
All you need to do is lighten the RX8 up a bit. Free up some of that torque..and u should see some change.
03-23-2004, 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Hanzo
You actually did very well consider how much more torque he has with the M3.
You actually did very well consider how much more torque he has with the M3.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the S2000 also has this issue.
03-23-2004, 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by msrecant
Hanzo is right. The RX-8 has low torque and gets its power by turning high RPMs. However, you just can't keep the engine running at high enough RPMs all the time. Sooner or later you have to up-shift and drop into a substantially lower RPM range, at which point you are screwed (power wise) until the RPMs builds back up.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the S2000 also has this issue.
Hanzo is right. The RX-8 has low torque and gets its power by turning high RPMs. However, you just can't keep the engine running at high enough RPMs all the time. Sooner or later you have to up-shift and drop into a substantially lower RPM range, at which point you are screwed (power wise) until the RPMs builds back up.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the S2000 also has this issue.
03-23-2004, 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Hanzo
Yes the S2000 also has this issue however it has duel stage VTEC which act almost like a turbo charger kicks in first around 6k rpm and second one kicks in around 8k I believe. That is how it keeps it ramping.
Yes the S2000 also has this issue however it has duel stage VTEC which act almost like a turbo charger kicks in first around 6k rpm and second one kicks in around 8k I believe. That is how it keeps it ramping.
03-23-2004, 08:55 AM
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The M3 was a Green one. Didn't sound modded to me. No ricer exhaust note that I could tell. But I did hear his engine roar when I was ahead by about half a car length. Where's my B&B exhaust when I needed it???
03-23-2004, 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by msrecant
So Honda uses the dual stage VTEC to boost torque at several points in the power curve? (never looked into how the S2000 does its thing)
So Honda uses the dual stage VTEC to boost torque at several points in the power curve? (never looked into how the S2000 does its thing)
03-23-2004, 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by Dragonfruit
The M3 was a Green one. Didn't sound modded to me. No ricer exhaust note that I could tell. But I did hear his engine roar when I was ahead by about half a car length. Where's my B&B exhaust when I needed it???
The M3 was a Green one. Didn't sound modded to me. No ricer exhaust note that I could tell. But I did hear his engine roar when I was ahead by about half a car length. Where's my B&B exhaust when I needed it???
03-23-2004, 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Dragonfruit
Maybe next time I decide to race someone I need to launch it at 8000 rpm. That way I can get a healthy early lead until I need to upshift.
Maybe next time I decide to race someone I need to launch it at 8000 rpm. That way I can get a healthy early lead until I need to upshift.
03-23-2004, 09:06 AM
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Just did some research on Edmunds, the 1997 M3 which looks like what this punk had does 0-60 in 5.9sec, which is exactly the same as the rx8. So technically it'd be an even match up until 60, which was pretty much what happened. But when we hit ~70-80mph he pretty much just left the rx8 in the dust.
03-23-2004, 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Dragonfruit
Maybe I should call up that guy Selwyn and have him make a custom turbo for my 8.
Maybe I should call up that guy Selwyn and have him make a custom turbo for my 8.
03-24-2004, 06:45 AM
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Well to get back to RX-8s, I got a complete black RX-8 interior (cloth) for 55.00 on Ebay. Why you may ask? In 5 years from now I can put them in and have a fresh interior. Of course the car will only have 6,000 miles on it. 
03-24-2004, 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by Chirorx8
Well to get back to RX-8s, I got a complete black RX-8 interior (cloth) for 55.00 on Ebay. Why you may ask? In 5 years from now I can put them in and have a fresh interior. Of course the car will only have 6,000 miles on it.
Well to get back to RX-8s, I got a complete black RX-8 interior (cloth) for 55.00 on Ebay. Why you may ask? In 5 years from now I can put them in and have a fresh interior. Of course the car will only have 6,000 miles on it.
So Chiro.. You never told us why you don't like to drive your 8?
03-24-2004, 07:41 AM
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Its not that I do not love to drive the 8 it is just that my office is 2 miles from my house. And on the weekends we use the larger cars for transporting s-loads of kids around. Plus I only work a three day work week. That is 12 miles a week plus a little running around.
03-24-2004, 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Dragonfruit
I think I might do that if I move downtown. Sell the rx8 and get a bike and ride into work.
I think I might do that if I move downtown. Sell the rx8 and get a bike and ride into work.
Yup..you would get better gas milage.