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Old May 14, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by neolowrider
i will be shopping around. just not sure if i should buy a new one or like a 06 with low miles. plus ill be droppin like 5 gs on the turbo kit. plus whatever else im guna put into her. like exaust, headers... stuf like that. want it to look stock, but destroy everything else on the road. not worryed about droppin money in it. gota spend all this tax free money somewhere. hahaha. im currently in iraq and wont be home till next spring. but my car will be done and waiting for me when i get there. dont realy care if i have to travel to get it. most likly i wont see it in person till next may. is there a big diff in the gt and the shinka or should i just get a base modle and do all the up grades myself? thanks for the help guys, also have a full custom truck for sle if anyone is interested. its in the cassifieds.
Well...the Shinka's aren't made anymore so you have to go used. If you are going to go turbo you may even want to go older as you are going to void most of your warranty anyways. If you want to destroy everything else on the road you want to buy something other than an RX8. There are probably a handful of RX8s that can do that and they have all had engine swaps done. As for the different types, I remember them to be...

Base :: BORING
Touring :: Base model plus HID's, Traction Control, Bose Radio, Sunroof
Shinka :: Touring plus pretty interior
Grand Touring :: Touring plus Leather Interior, Heated Seats, Keyfob entry
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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Fatmat / Dynamat install

Hey guys, I can't wait to actually get up north and meet some of you.... but in the meantime...

I bought a roll of fatmat for some sound insulation and for a later subwoofer install. I still have my craptastic factory potenzas on the car, so the road noise is bad, and the door rattles are getting under my skin.

Anyway, does anyone have any advice on how to install this stuff? I saw some pics on the forum of completed trunks that are just covered! But I really think that looks like overkill. I'm told a little bit of this stuff goes a long way, but do you need 100% coverage?

I'm thinking of doing the trunk floor, deck lid, and driver and passenger front doors to start.

I welcome any advice you guys have!
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Hey, how about this Cleveland Group! Really comin to life!
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
Hey guys, I can't wait to actually get up north and meet some of you.... but in the meantime...

I bought a roll of fatmat for some sound insulation and for a later subwoofer install. I still have my craptastic factory potenzas on the car, so the road noise is bad, and the door rattles are getting under my skin.

Anyway, does anyone have any advice on how to install this stuff? I saw some pics on the forum of completed trunks that are just covered! But I really think that looks like overkill. I'm told a little bit of this stuff goes a long way, but do you need 100% coverage?

I'm thinking of doing the trunk floor, deck lid, and driver and passenger front doors to start.

I welcome any advice you guys have!
Here's some of the things I remember from back in my "system" days:

Covering the entire surface would be most effective, but only doing part will also work.

One of the main purposes of Dynomat is to stop the resonation of sound waves off or through the metal panels of the doors, floors, and trunk lid. Not every surface has to be covered as it works similar to if you held you hand on the panel; it stops the vibrating. It all depends on how much noise you're putting through your system. The louder you are, the more you'll need.

In one car I had, I covered everything- every tiny surface in the rear of the car and doors. I had to, though. I had two 15's pushed by a few thousand watts of power in a little hatchback Eclipse. I could get out of the car with the music on and watch the glass on the hatch flex outwards when the bass hit.

......that's probably why you'll always hear me say "What?, Huh?"

Needless to say, I'm not into that much sound anymore. That hobby died with my teen years.

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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Well Doc... the intake Tony wants to buy from me is the AEM intake... which is the same design as your MS intake.
I still want that, but I'm tight on funds at the moment.

I thought I was going to be able to use the money I was supposed to get from selling back my textbooks, but the bookstore wanted to give me $70 for them. I spent close to $400 at the beginning of the semester for them. I'm not about to get the shaft from the bookstore so they can turn around and sell them again for three times the price they paid me for them.

If you need to sell the intake to someone else, I understand. In a couple of weeks things should look upwards for me. If you still have it then, I'll take it.

Gosh I hate being poor.....Then again, if I didn't have the RX8 I wouldn't be. I'll never get rid of it, though. Like Charlton Heston said "....from my cold, dead hands....."
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Well Tony. Looks like I'm running STU with you Sunday......... I won't have the intake replaced this week. Parts were missing.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
Well Tony. Looks like I'm running STU with you Sunday......... I won't have the intake replaced this week. Parts were missing.
Sounds good. I'll make sure I wear my lucky driving underwear.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Sounds good. I'll make sure I wear my lucky driving underwear.
WAY WAY WAY too much information................
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
WAY WAY WAY too much information................
I know, but it was a tactical comment that will keep your mind messed up during the event so can win.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
Well...the Shinka's aren't made anymore so you have to go used. If you are going to go turbo you may even want to go older as you are going to void most of your warranty anyways. If you want to destroy everything else on the road you want to buy something other than an RX8. There are probably a handful of RX8s that can do that and they have all had engine swaps done. As for the different types, I remember them to be...

Base :: BORING
Touring :: Base model plus HID's, Traction Control, Bose Radio, Sunroof
Shinka :: Touring plus pretty interior
Grand Touring :: Touring plus Leather Interior, Heated Seats, Keyfob entry
think il just get touring and do all the upgrades myself. isnt there one with upgraded suspention?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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and is there anything else i can get beside .. turbo, intake, exaust, headers, ignition, and chip to get more hp... i seen some say something about a rotary kit?

and what type of swap... to a v engine?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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oh. if anyone can find a buyer for the truck at $14000.. ill give them 1000 for there troubles.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by neolowrider
and is there anything else i can get beside .. turbo, intake, exaust, headers, ignition, and chip to get more hp... i seen some say something about a rotary kit?

and what type of swap... to a v engine?
Honestly, most of those parts don't make very much HP on this car at all. If you're looking for a high HP, Evo Killer, you're in the wrong place.

The RX8 is a road track car, hands down. I can vouch for this personally. Straight out of the box this car handles incredibly well and better than a lot of higher dollar sports cars out there.

However, it's drawback is power....at least when compared to Evo's, STi's, S2000, etc. Think about it, though: It's a 1.3L putting out 238hp. Not many piston engines can claim that.

Turbo kits are about the only way to get a significant increase in power for the RX8. Caution is empahsized to people new to the rotary engine when they speak about getting a turbo for their 8. It's not nearly the same ballgame as it is with a Civic or similar. Much fine tuning is needed for it to be effective, reliable, and worth your money.

As far as motor swaps, the three rotor 20B is the wet dream of most hardcore RX8 power enthusiasts. It's a HUGE investment, though, and requires a lot of modifications. I'm going to do this myself.......a very long time from now......when I'm not so broke.

The best advice I can give is to search the forum. We have a huge wealth of info available, and it will keep you busy for hours. (Which I'm sure you probably don't have over there)

BTW, thanks for your service in the Sandbox. If my situation was a little different, I'd probably be sitting right next to you out there.

Stay low, watch your back........

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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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neolowrider: I believe all the models (except the sport) had Sport Tuned suspension... but don't quote me on that. My car is the Grand Touring and it has the Sport Tuned suspension and larger front brakes.
As far as HP... Mazda has done a fine job at getting everything they could out of this engine while staying within regulations. Forced induction is the only way to see "serious" HP gains on this car, but a midpipe, ignition, and the Cobb AccessPort can give you a nice boost.
You might have heard people talk about an engine swap with a 20B motor (which is a 3-rotor design). Not many people here have this because it usually cost over $20,000 to upgrade everything in preparation, and its not street legal.
Hope this helps.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Damn you Tony.... faster typer.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Damn you Tony.... faster typer.
You want to send me to the depths of Hell just because I can type faster?? And I thought that the computer classes I took in highschool would make me a more attractive prospect for employment. Son of a.......
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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You could also try and put a 2JZ engine in it like some other person on the forum. The engine is pretty well maxed out straight from the factory. You can add all kinds of stuff to the car...but the Renesis just won't give you the return that I think you are expecting. If you plan on draggin the car you will be disappointed with the 1 - 1.5 sec gain that are reported with the turbo.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tony_673
I'll be there next Sunday, and I think Gopherage will be too. Hopefully the weather holds out.
You going rain or shine? I probably will from what I heard from the last AutoX i went to it's supposed to be fun to go sliding around in the rain.

Hopefully they won't run out of loaner helmets i found out that the helmet i purchased very cheaply $30 (not to disappointed) probably won't work. Otherwise if they do i'm just going to end up watching you all which would be very disappointing.

Registration starts @ 8:30 correct?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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You going rain or shine? I probably will from what I heard from the last AutoX i went to it's supposed to be fun to go sliding around in the rain.

Hopefully they won't run out of loaner helmets i found out that the helmet i purchased very cheaply $30 (not to disappointed) probably won't work. Otherwise if they do i'm just going to end up watching you all which would be very disappointing.

Registration starts @ 8:30 correct?
That's correct, although I probably won't show up until close to 9. There's not usually a rush on the timing trailer to register, but who knows considering this is the first SCCA event of the year.

I'm not sure how much they'll run if it rains. The last forecast I saw is reporting " a few showers" for Sunday; whatever the hell that means.

Is the helmet that you bought SNELL rated? I'm guessing it's not for $30. It must be SNELL rated for you to participate. If you get there early enough you should be able to grab one of the loaners.

BTW, nobody better try to use my number. As the "seasoned" one here, I have the authority to either remove your copycat number, or use your blood to draw another one.

I'm lucky number 13. (It would have been 1.3, but I don't think they allow that)
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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Gopherage, if you're planning on running Sunday (you should) you'll need to pick up some of that painters tape, the blue tape, to make a number on your car.

So Tony, I and Gopherage are planning on running. Anybody else?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Current Sunday forecast is 40% chance of rain all day. As long as it doesn't rain I will show up and point and laugh. I don't know why they would let yall run in the rain...you would think that there would be a little madness going on. Oh wait...this Sunday was supposed to be that car show in Boardman. I will have to see what the rest of the guys are doing. Someone had asked me about rolling out there for that.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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car show in boardman? do tell, i will be down there all weekend for my brothers wedding
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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https://www.rx8club.com/mw-rx-8-forum-31/march-dimes-charity-carshow-youngstown-oh-may-18-a-145474/

btw...I decided with the chance of rain the drive wasn't worth it. So I shall probably see you guys at Lakeland.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Depending on the weather I will be at Lakeland as well!

Beth
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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thanks for all the help. im a privet contractor over here so i have some time to research what i want. handlein is key for me. but i also want the most hp i can get out of the car also. iv never dumped alot of money in a car and now that i have money im going to. been looking into getting a right hand drive from japan also. im guna be looking though form after form on this site and reading reviews. thanks for all the help. and hope to see you all some time. cant wait to hit the track.
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