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Old 12-30-2008, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
But if I understand Jon right...you have to plug it into your car and remove the tune to pull it off the AP so you can tune another car. Smart ppl those Cobb guys.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
You know...we really need a chat window. :P
Why?
When it comes to replies, we are roughly 150 less than "Chicago Area Lounge" in the NW Forum section.
We are shooting for the top position.
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I just got the car so I have to pay off the credit card I used to install AC into our house first then I can think about purchases like this. So it will be a while before the mods begin. Especially since the excitment of owning it wont even start to get worn down till spring. I know I got a good deal buying it during winter but it is painful not wanting to drive it when there is salt on the roads.
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Gives you time to check out our cars at local meets (when spring comes around) and see what you like.
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Jon: what time works for you tonight? Perhaps we'll get to the bottom of this flood nonsense. I'm going to grab my floor jack from work in case I we need to pull the plugs to dry them off. I don't have a spark plug socket or a socket for the lug nuts though... I would have bought my tools, but that yellow top set me back a few bucks.



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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
Jon: what time works for you tonight? Perhaps we'll get to the bottom of this flood nonsense. I'm going to grab my floor jack from work in case I we need to pull the plugs to dry them off. I don't have a spark plug socket or a socket for the lug nuts though... I would have bought my tools, but that yellow top set me back a few bucks.



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Lol dats hawt dawg.

I can bring my socket set assuming I get the garage cleaned out and get the car in and a kitchen pass from the wife!
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Lol dats hawt dawg.

I can bring my socket set assuming I get the garage cleaned out and get the car in and a kitchen pass from the wife!
Vez: If I'm understanding you correctly - you're willing to come to my house tonight and help with the flooded 8?
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Lol yeah but I would not know what the heck I am doing sir. Anything I did on 7's was supervised bymy friend who was a service tech for mazda and usually involved me working on the 13b on a bench. Lemme talk to the wife and see if she had any plans for us tonight. I know we dont have crap going on on thursday.
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Lol yeah but I would not know what the heck I am doing sir. Anything I did on 7's was supervised bymy friend who was a service tech for mazda and usually involved me working on the 13b on a bench. Lemme talk to the wife and see if she had any plans for us tonight. I know we dont have crap going on on thursday.
Alright! Sounds good! One more person and I bet we could push start it!
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Id drive down Steve but by the time I got down there yall would be done. Im off all day tomorrow though if you guys run over. Wait a minute...you don't have room in your garage for your car do you? It's supposed to be cold and rainy...**** that! :P I'll supervise from the house. Vez...your job whether you choose to accept it or not is to stream the work out to the Interwebz.
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LOL I could hook it up to my durango with a tow strap if you really want to get it started from a roll. LMAO. Alright guys talk at yall later work called me. Someone cant text message. Boo hoo :D
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I can help (Watch) Wed or Thurs. Can't tonight. Have a missions meeting for my trip to El Salvador.
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
Id drive down Steve but by the time I got down there yall would be done. Im off all day tomorrow though if you guys run over. Wait a minute...you don't have room in your garage for your car do you? It's supposed to be cold and rainy...**** that! :P I'll supervise from the house. Vez...your job whether you choose to accept it or not is to stream the work out to the Interwebz.
Actually, I moved, so I do have my car in a garage now... with an empty stall next to me because my one room mate went to New Orleans or something for new years.

This poses a problem for me because I'm not at the shop with access to the tools (or the torches)

I'm pleased by your optimism that we'll have it fixed before you got here. I'm hoping its just flooded and I did something in correctly or something typical of me.
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Well I couldn't get down there before 830 or so. And since I stayed up too late last night playing Guitar Hero I might fall asleep on the way down.
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Originally Posted by DeViLbOi
Well I couldn't get down there before 830 or so. And since I stayed up too late last night playing Guitar Hero I might fall asleep on the way down.
Guitar Hero insomnia - Its an epidemic.
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Well...when I got home I was like "I'll just play a couple songs and hopefully open up four more for everyone else." Next thing I knew it was 4 hours later and I was getting my *** handed to me by Living Colour.
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
Jon: what time works for you tonight?
Sooner the better.

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LOL I could hook it up to my durango with a tow strap if you really want to get it started from a roll.
I actually had that in mind if all else fails.
Already put my straps in the F150 just in case.
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4.30 or 5.00 work well? I will give you a call ASAP and I know for sure. I have to get payroll to the plants tonight so that is the reason I can't give a clear answer now.

Do you have any starting fluid? Just to cover all bases.
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4.30 or 5.00 work well?
Works for me.
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Do you have any starting fluid? Just to cover all bases.
I can get some Acetone... that'll ignite a fire!
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Who let the smoke out?
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Jon,

Don't want to start a public bigtime thing on the thread, but
I really don't get it.

What makes the performance mods so attractive. You spend hundreds to thousands of dollars to make the car gain, what, 5 hp, maybe 10?

I understand if you're racing, not just AX, but any kind of competition. A few extra HP can make a difference. But spending all that money to go a little faster between stop lights on your way to the grocery store is something I can't understand.

I'm not being a smart *** here. I just don't see why.

And I definitely agree with Jon's comments about taking things apart to learn about the car. I wish I had been there when you guys worked on Steve's. I would have learned alot.

I learned a hell of a lot doing DBs brakes in the garage. I am car stupid, so the more I see, the better.
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Jon,

Don't want to start a public bigtime thing on the thread, but
I really don't get it.

What makes the performance mods so attractive. You spend hundreds to thousands of dollars to make the car gain, what, 5 hp, maybe 10?

I understand if you're racing, not just AX, but any kind of competition. A few extra HP can make a difference. But spending all that money to go a little faster between stop lights on your way to the grocery store is something I can't understand.

I'm not being a smart *** here. I just don't see why.

And I definitely agree with Jon's comments about taking things apart to learn about the car. I wish I had been there when you guys worked on Steve's. I would have learned alot.

I learned a hell of a lot doing DBs brakes in the garage. I am car stupid, so the more I see, the better.

I think its just part of the hobby. Make it your own, personalize it, etc. Maybe some of it is to talk about the mods or just to make it "better" than a stock car that you bought. Another aspect could be the intangibles of knowing you did the work and you build that relationship with your car.
Even in auto X, it sounds like you're limited to the mods you can do if you own the 8 and want to be competitive in a class.


And I'm sure you'll be down sometime when we're working on mine again. I am learning so much myself and for some reason feel more confident working on cars... even though the argument can be made that I should probably never even open my own hood. But - I do what I want!
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Originally Posted by Vyndictive
I think its just part of the hobby. Make it your own, personalize it, etc. Maybe some of it is to talk about the mods or just to make it "better" than a stock car that you bought. Another aspect could be the intangibles of knowing you did the work and you build that relationship with your car.
Even in auto X, it sounds like you're limited to the mods you can do if you own the 8 and want to be competitive in a class.
I'll buy the personalizing part. But I hear way too many people that think they "have to" mod the car. But when they drive, they aren't using half of what's there.

You can pretty much mod the car any way you want for AX. It just changes the class you're in. We talk alot about stock here, which severely restricts the mods. Theoretically it's a more prestigious class, because your skill has to create the speed, not a mod. Locally, it doesn't make much difference.

The real mod I'd like to see is something that gave the car some torque. More HP only helps so much there.
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
Jon,

Don't want to start a public bigtime thing on the thread, but
I really don't get it.

What makes the performance mods so attractive. You spend hundreds to thousands of dollars to make the car gain, what, 5 hp, maybe 10?
This coming from a guy who spent thousands on a 2nd RX8.
Think of it this way Doc, how would you know what the gains are unless someone does it?
Doing what I've done builds knowledge not only on that section of the vehicle, but what I learned can be past to others and suggest what to avoid (unless you're Steve who learns the hard way... damn midpipe).
Same reason why I don't recommend someone buy an aftermarket intake if they are looking for "performance gains".
Having the top two intake setups in my car allows me to say that gains are not worth it (unless you like the sound).

The performance mods I recommend for people who are NA allows them to get their hands dirty, build a little bit of knowledge, gain around 20HP (best case), AND they will be able to utilize those same components when/if they decide to go FI in the future, so it wouldn't be a complete waste because those components combined with an FI setup will benefit greatly.
Unlike an intake setup that will give them VERY MINIMAL gain and will have to be removed if they go FI.

I have no problem if you want to ask questions, but realize that we may have different goals.
I don't ask why you like to race around little cones all day... but to each their own.
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Originally Posted by docgatorx8er
You can pretty much mod the car any way you want for AX. It just changes the class you're in. We talk alot about stock here, which severely restricts the mods. Theoretically it's a more prestigious class, because your skill has to create the speed, not a mod. Locally, it doesn't make much difference.
This is your problem Doc... you keep thinking that we are doing this to benefit during auto-x.
I could care less about it, driving around cones doesn't excite me.
I will be willing to drive at Nelson Ledges' this summer though.
Again... how you mod your car depends on how you are going to run it.
Then others just care about being "Fast & Furious".
Everyone has different goals.


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