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So I took it to the dealership and they're diagnosed it with low compression. They've given me two options:
1.) Decarb the engine and replace the plugs for $535 with no guarantee it will work
2.) Replace the entire engine for $5k
Please to god tell me there is something that I can do that's actually affordable.
1.) Decarb the engine and replace the plugs for $535 with no guarantee it will work
2.) Replace the entire engine for $5k
Please to god tell me there is something that I can do that's actually affordable.
So I took it to the dealership and they're diagnosed it with low compression. They've given me two options:
1.) Decarb the engine and replace the plugs for $535 with no guarantee it will work
2.) Replace the entire engine for $5k
Please to god tell me there is something that I can do that's actually affordable.
1.) Decarb the engine and replace the plugs for $535 with no guarantee it will work
2.) Replace the entire engine for $5k
Please to god tell me there is something that I can do that's actually affordable.

So I took it to the dealership and they're diagnosed it with low compression. They've given me two options:
1.) Decarb the engine and replace the plugs for $535 with no guarantee it will work
2.) Replace the entire engine for $5k
Please to god tell me there is something that I can do that's actually affordable.
1.) Decarb the engine and replace the plugs for $535 with no guarantee it will work
2.) Replace the entire engine for $5k
Please to god tell me there is something that I can do that's actually affordable.

You took it to a dealership that diagnosed low compression. Their fix for that was to decarb your engine (which is not a fix for low compression), or replace the whole engine. So you get on the phone, and Randy offers to replace your engine for half the price. Whichever dealership you took it to should be crossed off your list. Also, the fact that Randy is offering to do work for you without first diagnosing the issue for himself seems suspect to me.
You clearly know nothing about the engine you have in your car. If I had a dealership tell me I needed to replace my engine because it had low compression, I would be trying to find somebody who would give me a second opinion, not trying to find somebody who would replace the engine for a cheaper price.
You wanted a cheaper fix, but it seems like you only want to throw money at your car anyway. Good luck to you sir.
You clearly know nothing about the engine you have in your car. If I had a dealership tell me I needed to replace my engine because it had low compression, I would be trying to find somebody who would give me a second opinion, not trying to find somebody who would replace the engine for a cheaper price.
You wanted a cheaper fix, but it seems like you only want to throw money at your car anyway. Good luck to you sir.
My post is directed at George, not VIPREZ...
You took it to a dealership that diagnosed low compression. Their fix for that was to decarb your engine (which is not a fix for low compression), or replace the whole engine. So you get on the phone, and Randy offers to replace your engine for half the price. Whichever dealership you took it to should be crossed off your list. Also, the fact that Randy is offering to do work for you without first diagnosing the issue for himself seems suspect to me.
You clearly know nothing about the engine you have in your car. If I had a dealership tell me I needed to replace my engine because it had low compression, I would be trying to find somebody who would give me a second opinion, not trying to find somebody who would replace the engine for a cheaper price.
You wanted a cheaper fix, but it seems like you only want to throw money at your car anyway. Good luck to you sir.
You clearly know nothing about the engine you have in your car. If I had a dealership tell me I needed to replace my engine because it had low compression, I would be trying to find somebody who would give me a second opinion, not trying to find somebody who would replace the engine for a cheaper price.
You wanted a cheaper fix, but it seems like you only want to throw money at your car anyway. Good luck to you sir.
You took it to a dealership that diagnosed low compression. Their fix for that was to decarb your engine (which is not a fix for low compression), or replace the whole engine. So you get on the phone, and Randy offers to replace your engine for half the price. Whichever dealership you took it to should be crossed off your list. Also, the fact that Randy is offering to do work for you without first diagnosing the issue for himself seems suspect to me.
You clearly know nothing about the engine you have in your car. If I had a dealership tell me I needed to replace my engine because it had low compression, I would be trying to find somebody who would give me a second opinion, not trying to find somebody who would replace the engine for a cheaper price.
You wanted a cheaper fix, but it seems like you only want to throw money at your car anyway. Good luck to you sir.
You clearly know nothing about the engine you have in your car. If I had a dealership tell me I needed to replace my engine because it had low compression, I would be trying to find somebody who would give me a second opinion, not trying to find somebody who would replace the engine for a cheaper price.
You wanted a cheaper fix, but it seems like you only want to throw money at your car anyway. Good luck to you sir.
Well somebody has their sassy pants on today.
I was hoping I'd get a second opinion here seen as how most of you know much more about this car than I do, and you guys suggested Randy. He has reasonable prices so I figured it was a good idea.
So, would you like to contribute to this conversation instead of bitching about how I know nothing?
Um.
First of all I've seen print outs of compression sheets before, immediately after, and after putting miles on the car after the decarb process(which happens because carbon and oil re-saturate in the combustion chambers and increase compression) and it does change compression.
Second, Randy has TONS(8+yrs) of experience with rotary engines, builds and that's all he does. He worked at Hall Mazda like i said earlier and did work on my rx8.
If he wanted to throw money at his car he would pay the crazy labor rates and insane parts department rotary core mark-up you would find at ANY dealership.
Or pay half via Randy for the same, if not better engine if he has any he's rebuilt.
Third, its VERY well known these engines fail in multiple different ways. It's not surprising to find a bad one. I'd assume the dealership that diagnosed it did a compression test as one of they're first steps. If you find low compression - there is absolutely NO need to diagnose further. Low compression doesn't ignite a fuel/air mix its plain and simple. Especially when compression is so low the car will not start.
What I just read from you had more of an opinion bias than anything.
At any rate, Randy is a good guy. He's no crook and with his business being kicked off in the last few years I HIGHLY doubt he would be looking to screw anyone over.
First of all I've seen print outs of compression sheets before, immediately after, and after putting miles on the car after the decarb process(which happens because carbon and oil re-saturate in the combustion chambers and increase compression) and it does change compression.
Second, Randy has TONS(8+yrs) of experience with rotary engines, builds and that's all he does. He worked at Hall Mazda like i said earlier and did work on my rx8.
If he wanted to throw money at his car he would pay the crazy labor rates and insane parts department rotary core mark-up you would find at ANY dealership.
Or pay half via Randy for the same, if not better engine if he has any he's rebuilt.
Third, its VERY well known these engines fail in multiple different ways. It's not surprising to find a bad one. I'd assume the dealership that diagnosed it did a compression test as one of they're first steps. If you find low compression - there is absolutely NO need to diagnose further. Low compression doesn't ignite a fuel/air mix its plain and simple. Especially when compression is so low the car will not start.
What I just read from you had more of an opinion bias than anything.
At any rate, Randy is a good guy. He's no crook and with his business being kicked off in the last few years I HIGHLY doubt he would be looking to screw anyone over.
Last edited by viprez586; Apr 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM.
Randy's probably your best bet...
I believe Rotary Resurrection was charging $1500 for a basic rebuild, but that was after removing the engine yourself and getting it to him.
If Randy can get you a new* engine locally and install it for $2500, he's your best bet.
*I can't believe it would be a new engine... probably a rebuild as Mazda isn't even offering new engines.
I believe Rotary Resurrection was charging $1500 for a basic rebuild, but that was after removing the engine yourself and getting it to him.
If Randy can get you a new* engine locally and install it for $2500, he's your best bet.
*I can't believe it would be a new engine... probably a rebuild as Mazda isn't even offering new engines.
Hey so I just picked my car up from Randy today.. as I said before, he's great and ended up fixing my car for $300. Long story short the dealership lied about doing any tests on it and pretty much listened to the engine and diagnosed it with a bunch of bullshit.
Anyways, he's having this get together on Saturday and the Minnesota RX8 club is going to be there as well as a lot of other people. Are any of you guys planning on going?
Anyways, he's having this get together on Saturday and the Minnesota RX8 club is going to be there as well as a lot of other people. Are any of you guys planning on going?
Hey so I just picked my car up from Randy today.. as I said before, he's great and ended up fixing my car for $300. Long story short the dealership lied about doing any tests on it and pretty much listened to the engine and diagnosed it with a bunch of bullshit.
Anyways, he's having this get together on Saturday and the Minnesota RX8 club is going to be there as well as a lot of other people. Are any of you guys planning on going?
Anyways, he's having this get together on Saturday and the Minnesota RX8 club is going to be there as well as a lot of other people. Are any of you guys planning on going?
Last edited by George Dubyah Bush; Apr 29, 2013 at 07:56 PM.
Hey so I just picked my car up from Randy today.. as I said before, he's great and ended up fixing my car for $300. Long story short the dealership lied about doing any tests on it and pretty much listened to the engine and diagnosed it with a bunch of bullshit.
Anyways, he's having this get together on Saturday and the Minnesota RX8 club is going to be there as well as a lot of other people. Are any of you guys planning on going?
Anyways, he's having this get together on Saturday and the Minnesota RX8 club is going to be there as well as a lot of other people. Are any of you guys planning on going?
glad you got it worked out!
damn, I didnt know it was this saturday. I got ASE testing and a bunch of other projects going on. theres a small possibility ill show.
Ladies and Gents!
The RX Club of Wisconsin is hosting a touring day this coming Saturday. We will start off at Don Miller Mazda on Odana Road in Madison at 11 am. They will be catering a lunch for us. After that we head off to tour the countryside west of Madison. After the drive we will end the day at the home of the Club's president for a BBQ style get-together.
Facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/427833500630666/
I look forward to seeing you there!
If any of you are interested please contact me (Erik) at 262.506.4285 - email:rx8guy79@yahoo.com
-or-
Michael Pflughoeft
President
RX Club of Wisconsin
Cell:
262-501-0098
The RX Club of Wisconsin is hosting a touring day this coming Saturday. We will start off at Don Miller Mazda on Odana Road in Madison at 11 am. They will be catering a lunch for us. After that we head off to tour the countryside west of Madison. After the drive we will end the day at the home of the Club's president for a BBQ style get-together.
Facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/427833500630666/
I look forward to seeing you there!
If any of you are interested please contact me (Erik) at 262.506.4285 - email:rx8guy79@yahoo.com
-or-
Michael Pflughoeft
President
RX Club of Wisconsin
Cell:
262-501-0098
Gentlemen,
please accept my apologies for my posts from a couple weeks ago. I came in with the guns blazing, and I was out of line.
GeorgeDubyah, I am glad you got your car fixed.
I hope I havent upset anybody too much. Again, I apologise.
please accept my apologies for my posts from a couple weeks ago. I came in with the guns blazing, and I was out of line.
GeorgeDubyah, I am glad you got your car fixed.
I hope I havent upset anybody too much. Again, I apologise.
Ladies and Gents!
The RX Club of Wisconsin is hosting a touring day this coming Saturday. We will start off at Don Miller Mazda on Odana Road in Madison at 11 am. They will be catering a lunch for us. After that we head off to tour the countryside west of Madison. After the drive we will end the day at the home of the Club's president for a BBQ style get-together.
Facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/427833500630666/
I look forward to seeing you there!
If any of you are interested please contact me (Erik) at 262.506.4285 - email:rx8guy79@yahoo.com
-or-
Michael Pflughoeft
President
RX Club of Wisconsin
Cell:
262-501-0098
The RX Club of Wisconsin is hosting a touring day this coming Saturday. We will start off at Don Miller Mazda on Odana Road in Madison at 11 am. They will be catering a lunch for us. After that we head off to tour the countryside west of Madison. After the drive we will end the day at the home of the Club's president for a BBQ style get-together.
Facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/427833500630666/
I look forward to seeing you there!
If any of you are interested please contact me (Erik) at 262.506.4285 - email:rx8guy79@yahoo.com
-or-
Michael Pflughoeft
President
RX Club of Wisconsin
Cell:
262-501-0098
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I gladly accept your apology, and I hope you'll forgive me as well for being rude.



