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Old 09-22-2004, 02:58 PM
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I am also looking forward to the new keys. The current ones don't match the car. I feel like I have the keys to my girlfriend's old(and dead) mx6. Now that we saved at least $50 for the reprogramming(hopefully our fellow out of country rx8ers' diy works), when you do get them in (If before Nov 30th), does the Mazda accessories rebate apply? Thanks
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tmparts, any updates on compatibility?
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Originally Posted by cortc
What price did you get from Mazda?
cortc are these available yet? If so how much?
Old 09-28-2004, 11:17 AM
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I will check again today...
Old 09-28-2004, 11:21 AM
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Ok, checked... The pricing is still not available in the system...
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thanks cortc
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Originally Posted by cortc
Ok, checked... The pricing is still not available in the system...
Can you let us know... when they are :D, thanks...
Old 09-30-2004, 01:03 PM
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Key's and remote just got in. You will need to buy both. I am testing the only complete set now to see if will work. I will know shortly if it does. Mazda has no more remotes in stock. I have 9 keys and only one remote which is the test one. These are not cheap.

$179.04 with $7.50 shipping.

I will know soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 09-30-2004, 10:46 PM
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Bad news guys, no key for us.

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=14
Old 09-30-2004, 10:56 PM
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what? why did it work for SNAP on? let Trussville test them first...Rosenthal may have made an error
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i agree, it seems more unlikely that someone who thinks they got it to work to be wrong than someone who couldnt get the key to work.
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ya hopefully Trussville can get them to work. Truss...is that price for both the key & the remote or just the remote?
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We have been able to get the transmitter to work on the '04 but the key won't. Mazda has told us that the frequencies used are different.
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that really sucks. I'm not too familiar with how the key works, but is it a matter of circuitry in the black plastic base of the '05 key that is different? or is it in the keyhole receiver of the actual '04 car?
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I'm still in for the transmitter since it is much cooler then the 04 one...but I'm thinking couldn't I just hack apart an 04 key remove the chip and place it in the 05 key?

we shouldn't have to though...Mazda can fix this and they better
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Originally Posted by tmparts
We have been able to get the transmitter to work on the '04 but the key won't. Mazda has told us that the frequencies used are different.
hi regarding the quote above - does this means that the transmitter (arm/disarm/trunk/panic) does WORK with the 2005 key on a 2004 car, but that the passive immobilizer (chip in 2004 key) does not mobilize the car?

sorry - i just wanted to double-check.!

Thanks!
Old 10-13-2004, 05:13 PM
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Price

Originally Posted by Helmano
ya hopefully Trussville can get them to work. Truss...is that price for both the key & the remote or just the remote?
Yes it is for both.

The remote is $143.16
the key is $37.36
Old 10-13-2004, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jowettw
hi regarding the quote above - does this means that the transmitter (arm/disarm/trunk/panic) does WORK with the 2005 key on a 2004 car, but that the passive immobilizer (chip in 2004 key) does not mobilize the car?

sorry - i just wanted to double-check.!

Thanks!
the transmitter does work and the key will not
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truss do you think it would be possible for me to buy the key cut it open and replace the internals of the key with a cut up 04 key?
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Cut open key

Anything possible. If you want to we sell anything.
Really I don't want anyone to waste there money.
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Transmitter

Just broke open the test key. No way to get that little thing out.
I need to sell something else. Just lost $30.00 doing that.


PLEASE BUY some ACCESSORIES.

Rebate is still on till NOV 30,2004
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Is there any way you can find out if the coil around the ignition switch is different in the 05 car?

My understanding of the way the system works is that the "coil" reads the key ID number and sends that data to the "keyless Control Module" which then sends a signal to the ECU allowing the car to start. One of the trouble codes is "13" meaning the key ID cannot be read or there was a key ID registration error. The trouble shooting for that DTC states that:

"Any of the following items are touching or near the key head"
--Spare keys
--Keys for other vehicles equipped with an immobilizer system
--Any metallic object
--Any electronic device, or any credit or other cards with magnietic strips"

These items will interfere with the coil reading the ID # from the key. With the new 05 keys they have the remote keyless entry circuitry as part of the key, and this could be what is interfering with the 04 coil from reading the 05 key. That means that Mazda would have to have a new coil around the ignition to read the 05 key. So long as there are no changes in the keyless control module, we should be able to swap out the 04 coil with the 05 coil and then get a new set of 05 keys and have them coded.
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that is a very interesting idea...we ALL need to leverage mazda to let this new key/transmitter fob to work with the 04s

truss you opened the key? wow...you really work hard for your customers that is why I keep buying accessories from you (oh and those license plate frames, the dark crome looking rx8 ones are just as beautiful as you guys told me, I get complements all the time :D )

Originally Posted by 2nd Alarm
Is there any way you can find out if the coil around the ignition switch is different in the 05 car?

My understanding of the way the system works is that the "coil" reads the key ID number and sends that data to the "keyless Control Module" which then sends a signal to the ECU allowing the car to start. One of the trouble codes is "13" meaning the key ID cannot be read or there was a key ID registration error. The trouble shooting for that DTC states that:

"Any of the following items are touching or near the key head"
--Spare keys
--Keys for other vehicles equipped with an immobilizer system
--Any metallic object
--Any electronic device, or any credit or other cards with magnietic strips"

These items will interfere with the coil reading the ID # from the key. With the new 05 keys they have the remote keyless entry circuitry as part of the key, and this could be what is interfering with the 04 coil from reading the 05 key. That means that Mazda would have to have a new coil around the ignition to read the 05 key. So long as there are no changes in the keyless control module, we should be able to swap out the 04 coil with the 05 coil and then get a new set of 05 keys and have them coded.
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Are the secondary keys the same part number?
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Originally Posted by snap-on
Are the secondary keys the same part number?
help us out snap on, please


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