(CLOSED) CZ Stage 1 Group Buy
01-30-2004, 08:03 PM
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Ok, guy's I got a final price.
$520
$5000 for the units
$85 Fedex Air
$49 Insurance
$70 shipping estimate from me to you. I'm anxious to get this done, so If I'm off I'll just bite it.
Divide that all by 10 and it comes out to $520
In all fairness to those that may not have immediate internet access, I will allow the first 10 that contacted me (you have been PMed) to have first dibs. In the first post of this thread is a listing of those who have confirmed. If all 10 members have not confirmed before Feb 4th, I will open it up to others who want in.
If you plan to paypal, please add 3%. If you want to mail me payment, please use some form of express mail. I will not send the wire transfer to Maurice until I have every last dime in my account to cover it all, so it's in everyone's best interest to find a way to be swift.
Please by no means send me payment without first notifying me. I am not a dealer, I do not have these units in stock, nor can I easily add to the order.
As soon as I hear from the 3 remaining people, I'll send out a PM and have you guys go ahead and pay.
To those that are interested but not on the list..I will set up another GB in a few weeks. Expect prices to be 10-15 dollars higher (Sorry, gotta make it worth it somehow!)
Thanks for making this go real smooth!
$520
$5000 for the units
$85 Fedex Air
$49 Insurance
$70 shipping estimate from me to you. I'm anxious to get this done, so If I'm off I'll just bite it.
Divide that all by 10 and it comes out to $520
In all fairness to those that may not have immediate internet access, I will allow the first 10 that contacted me (you have been PMed) to have first dibs. In the first post of this thread is a listing of those who have confirmed. If all 10 members have not confirmed before Feb 4th, I will open it up to others who want in.
If you plan to paypal, please add 3%. If you want to mail me payment, please use some form of express mail. I will not send the wire transfer to Maurice until I have every last dime in my account to cover it all, so it's in everyone's best interest to find a way to be swift.
Please by no means send me payment without first notifying me. I am not a dealer, I do not have these units in stock, nor can I easily add to the order.
As soon as I hear from the 3 remaining people, I'll send out a PM and have you guys go ahead and pay.
To those that are interested but not on the list..I will set up another GB in a few weeks. Expect prices to be 10-15 dollars higher (Sorry, gotta make it worth it somehow!)
Thanks for making this go real smooth!
02-01-2004, 01:38 AM
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No worries man, I'll get you in on the next one!
EDIT: if you could, just shoot me a PM. I'm storing messages in a way that allows me to keep track of who wants what without entering you into the database as a comitted buyer.
EDIT: if you could, just shoot me a PM. I'm storing messages in a way that allows me to keep track of who wants what without entering you into the database as a comitted buyer.
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02-01-2004, 11:03 AM
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Just curious - why are you cutting off the group buy at 10 orders? I understood that was a minimum quantity - can't you collect 20 or 30 orders for the same price? I realise you would need to set a deadline date to get in on it, and wouldn't want that deadline too far out, but it seems you've got more people interested than just 10 already!
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02-01-2004, 03:46 PM
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The next GB will have 25 buyers. I wasn't sure how many would be interested, and I didn't want people to have to wait should interest be low. Interest is very good however, so for the next round, it will be 25.
If you want in, shoot me a PM.
If you want in, shoot me a PM.
02-01-2004, 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by epitrochoid
The next GB will have 25 buyers. I wasn't sure how many would be interested, and I didn't want people to have to wait should interest be low. Interest is very good however, so for the next round, it will be 25.
If you want in, shoot me a PM.
The next GB will have 25 buyers. I wasn't sure how many would be interested, and I didn't want people to have to wait should interest be low. Interest is very good however, so for the next round, it will be 25.
If you want in, shoot me a PM.
02-01-2004, 06:41 PM
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No, the price will only drop a few dollars, as the overhead costs are less per unit. My cost would be only $3-$4 dollars less.
If we are able to gather a very large number of buyers, we would definately have a very long wait.
If we are able to gather a very large number of buyers, we would definately have a very long wait.
02-01-2004, 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by epitrochoid
No, the price will only drop a few dollars, as the overhead costs are less per unit. My cost would be only $3-$4 dollars less.
If we are able to gather a very large number of buyers, we would definately have a very long wait.
No, the price will only drop a few dollars, as the overhead costs are less per unit. My cost would be only $3-$4 dollars less.
If we are able to gather a very large number of buyers, we would definately have a very long wait.
02-03-2004, 04:35 PM
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Since several people have dropped out, after comitting to pay might I add, there is now at least 1 slot open for sure. I still have yet to hear from or receive payment from 2 others.
After the way some of these buyers have been acting, I'm giving serious reconsideration as to whether or not I'm willing to go through this again. If you think you're going to want a CZ stage 1 and you want it at great price you better get in now, this could be the last GB I sponsor!
After the way some of these buyers have been acting, I'm giving serious reconsideration as to whether or not I'm willing to go through this again. If you think you're going to want a CZ stage 1 and you want it at great price you better get in now, this could be the last GB I sponsor!
02-08-2004, 12:52 AM
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Thanks for helpin me out freehk :D
I've got 9 payers now, so including my self I'm finally good to go. I'll keep you all updated via PM and/or email.
I've got 9 payers now, so including my self I'm finally good to go. I'll keep you all updated via PM and/or email.
02-08-2004, 05:36 PM
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Yeah, I'm #10. :D
My payment is on it's way to epitrochoid.
Sorry for being so late for the party. Gotta stop spending so much time in the lounge.
My payment is on it's way to epitrochoid.
Sorry for being so late for the party. Gotta stop spending so much time in the lounge.
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02-14-2004, 12:05 PM
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Forum managment decided it was going to caused a conflict of interest with the advertisers, so the thread was pulled unit some form of comission payment can be worked out.
02-15-2004, 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by epitrochoid
Forum managment decided it was going to caused a conflict of interest with the advertisers, so the thread was pulled unit some form of comission payment can be worked out.
Forum managment decided it was going to caused a conflict of interest with the advertisers, so the thread was pulled unit some form of comission payment can be worked out.
If a forum advertiser would like to advertise a quantity discount which creates the formation of a group buy however, I don't see where commission would be due to any advertiser. That's fair competition and I could see how an advertiser could make some bigger bucks in providing group buy deals all the time.
If a group buy would go to purchase from a non-advertiser however, the group buy, which would be using this forum, which is funded by its advertisers, should pay commission to those advertisers. After all, the advertisers are providing support for this forum and don't want to see that their funding is providing a place for non-advertiser competition to make a sale, a big sale.
Well, I hope I'm seeing this issue correctly. These are my own thoughts, nobody elses. I could be seeing it differently than forum management. I hope not.
All I know is if I was an advertiser who parked my butt right in the middle of some huge forum, I would be pricing my stuff nice and low and hold on while the orders come flooding in. 2x$1 = 1x$2. 10x$1 > 0x$10. Just gotta be able to handle all that volume.
02-15-2004, 01:54 AM
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The comission isn't paid to the advertisers, but to the forum administrator Ryan Scott. I was quick to get very defensive about my 'at cost' GB's being pulled, but he made a good point. He has a hell of a bill to pay for us to be able to come on here for free, and that's paid for 100% by the advertisers on this site, and its sister sites. He isn't a position to pick and choose the advertisers with the best prices, so when a company is paying big bucks to advertise to forum members, he's obligated in a way to defend them from people like me who aren't in it for the money. The CZ GB's are free to run because Maurice is the sole manufacturer and distributor, and he's obviously OK'd it. In the case of the SP2's, the GB was sourced from a paying advertiser on this site, but since I was offering them at my cost + S&H, I was in a way hurting the other advertisers that are selling direct to the customer.
I still believe that there's two types of buyers on here. Those that take a risk and live with the delay of a group buy, and those that are willing to pay extra to cover the overheard of an established company in the name of speedy shipping and security.
You gotta remember, that like it or not, we're in Ryan's world here, and he has to answer first to those that pay him. If they threaten to terminate their advertising contracts because of me, someone who brings him $0 profit, he has every right to ask me to stop, or try and work out a compensation system to make up from the income lost by dropped advertisers.
Hopefully once we get something worked out, my price will still be competitive, but we'll see.
I still believe that there's two types of buyers on here. Those that take a risk and live with the delay of a group buy, and those that are willing to pay extra to cover the overheard of an established company in the name of speedy shipping and security.
You gotta remember, that like it or not, we're in Ryan's world here, and he has to answer first to those that pay him. If they threaten to terminate their advertising contracts because of me, someone who brings him $0 profit, he has every right to ask me to stop, or try and work out a compensation system to make up from the income lost by dropped advertisers.
Hopefully once we get something worked out, my price will still be competitive, but we'll see.