TeamRX8

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Are you referring to the rules that you pull out of your butt and make up as you go to suit your own purpose and intent?

Pretty funny that you and your fellow dufus pals always pop in to diss on other peoples good guy threads like you are lilly white innocent virgins. Even I wasn't that big of turd to chase down MM in his good guy threads. You could at least give us a courtesy flush slready rather than hanging out stinking up the whole house ...

9krpmrx8

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Yeah your so righteous Team and I'm such a dick

JSiN3L33T

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oh goodness, what a mess... *see what i did there* hahahahaha

HiFlite999

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I'll say that my personal (not, "I read that ...", nor "I knew somebody who ...") experience with Scott would qualify as among the best customer service I've ever had. Even when it has not been in his immediate financial interest to do so, he has been extremely interested, helpful, and supportive in what I've been doing with his stuff.

YMMV, but that's my history with him and RX8Performance.

paimon.soror

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I agree. I know that there is a ton of history, but as far as my experience goes, he surely went above and beyond the call of duty to help me out. I found that the head on my motor mount bolt was blown off and i couldn't get the body of the bolt out. I shot him an email at 11pm on a Friday night and immediately got a response, he went out the next day, got me an overnight quote (which was ridiculously reasonable) and was basically waiting for me to give him the go ahead. I managed to extract the bolt head so I felt like an asshat for making him run around, but he was understanding of my situation.

ShellDude

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Once the long list of prior victims come forward and say similar he'll get my vote, no further questions asked.

I'm all for forgiveness and giving folks a second chance. Righting their prior wrongs is just as important, if not more so, than what they do to/for newcomers.

Here are the highlights ... You'll find a ton of cross-linked threads within each.

https://www.rx8club.com/good-guy-bad...-scott-158377/
https://www.rx8club.com/good-guy-bad...-clean-195840/
https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/so-...zsport-221451/

ShellDude

iTrader: (12)

And in case you want to know what just shy of $40,000 donated to Scott buys you:

https://www.rx8club.com/good-guy-bad...7/#post2678814

alnielsen

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While most on that "long list" haven't forgotten, they have chosen to go on with their lives, rather than to dwell on the past. You may have had friends that were customers of him, but you never were.
I suggest you follow your own advice. It seems that his present clients are having a positive experience.

Just to make it clear, I do not know Scott. Nor, have I ever been a customer. The only contact that I have had with him is through PM's as he being a member of this site.
Everyone posting here should be so clear.

ShellDude

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I don't follow, Al? Are you suggesting that I've defrauded hundreds of people of thousands of dollars and have done nothing to make amends?

That's not a responsible thing to say at all as I strive to be a good a person, do good things, and act responsibly, particularly when it comes to other peoples' money.

Please clarify.

And actually I did purchase something from Scott well before I knew of any of his reckless transactions. Not sure why you'd suggest otherwise...

alnielsen

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I don't know how to handle you. You seem to be so blind with rage that you not only can't understand what I say, but you don't understand yourself.
In one post you say "I'm all for forgiveness" and in the next you back on the attack. Your being irrational.

ShellDude

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I have no rage. That's a really odd word to use to describe my input in this thread. Perhaps it is a misunderstanding on your part.

By stating:

My point was that forgiveness and second chances should come AFTER someone makes amends with those they crossed in the past.

That's why I prefaced it with:

I could see how it might be misinterpreted. Does that help you understand my input better?

9krpmrx8

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And just to clarify some of his current clients are getting a bit of the run around as well and he has not handled every situation properly IMO. They have gotten their parts but not without excuses, delays, etc. Some speak out, some don't. He is doing ok right now but that doesn't mean I don't get to comment and advise people of his past. And if people don't like that I do that then oh well, we all have differing opinions. I know what I know, I'm not lying or misleading anyone.

Regardless, it was told to me by a mod that links promoting a banned vendor were not allowed. I guess that is not the case any longer. Or maybe the rules depend on which mod you ask.

HiFlite999

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Odd that the continuing referrals to MazdaManiac, another banned vendor, as a goto man for tuning as well as the only source of the AP, don't seem to generate similar complaints. (Or at least not as frequently, since I can't claim to read every post). And my personal business experience with him has been far below satisfactory. Is he a golden boy of banned vendors?

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

IIRC, some complaints were made about him and some threads were edited or deleted as well. If you are banned here you should NOT profit from it's members thru advertisement on this site.

JSiN3L33T

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Interesting, I think that's only fair and I'm in with you on that one. The best kind of advertisement is word of mouth

ShellDude

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My continued mention of MM being the sole commercial vendor for the AP are complaints in and of itself. I've told him that face to face and he could care less.

TeamRX8

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Your opinion is one thing, but trashing every good guy thread with it is getting out of line. Then to talk **** about the "rules" when in fact you are breaking them is hypocrisy at its best. I only hounded MM because he wasn't getting the same treatment that not only other vendors in the same situation didn't get away with anywhere near as long as he did, but not even to the same standard he ripped his own competitors over with at every slightest chance.

You don't really have an opinion. You have a beef that you refuse to let go of no matter how much the current experiences continue to pile up against. When someone from Europe needed help getting in touch with MM recently I gave him the link for the next online contact schedule. I still think he intentionally ripped off those guys over there, but at some point you just have to accept the past as it is and move on regardless. I still never crapped on good guy threads. If people had a good experience it is their right to say so without a bunch of dirtbags falsely accusing them of all kinds of BS harrassment. Thats as much a rules violation as me calling you all sacks of dog doody for doing it. So take that rules baloney and stick it up your overworked poop chute.

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

Oh the irony, Teamrx8 telling me I am getting out of line You have your opinions, I have mine and we don't have to agree or like each others opinions.

ShellDude

iTrader: (12)

Team if I am to apply your past input of others as a comparison here then we are to accept nothing short of 100% satisfaction on the part of those previously wronged.

After all when it came to MM you weren't satisfied until proof of reciept was made for each every promised turbo.

What's so special about Scott? The magnitude of fraud goes far beyond anything MM did so long as you leave his attitude out of it.

Highspeed

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I as well have posted of good buying experiences as well as customer support and tech support from Scott. Of course, the usual people come in and stir up all the same crap they always do about him. Its kind of hard for things to move on or people at that when people seem to keep bringing all the bad crap up. The bottom line is this, no matter what anyone says bad about a vendor, it doesn't take away from the good experience someone had doing business with them. So why come in and say all the negative stuff about the vendor? You cannot say it is to educate those about what has happened in the past cause after you say it 1, 2, 3 or 4 times...the point is across and made. When it continues after that, its clearly to just to keep throwing mud at someone.

Look at the reviews on almost anything you own...tv's, stereos, parts, cars, etc...I promise you on 99% of the things anyone owns, you will always find someone giving it a bad review or the company you bought it from will have bad reviews. If you like the product and are happy with it, those reviews dont take away from your satisfaction with the product or company. For example, when Toyota had all the issues with brakes failing or what not a couple years ago...do you think people stopped buying Toyotas all together...or those who owned Toyotas all the sudden hated their cars or the company? No...if so Toyota would no longer be in business today. Do you hear people talking about, "dont buy a toyota cause they are dangerous" when you hear of someone buying one or see a toyota commercial...no. The reason why...what was said about toyota and that incident/recall has been said enough and beat to death. Its no longer a point to be discussed cause so many people have pointed it out...and pretty much everyone else has moved on past it.

When someone posts a good guy thread...why can't those who have had bad experiences with that vendor just keep to themselves and just accept the fact that the person had a good experience and the vendor did the right thing for that customer? Instead of crapping all over a good guy thread, if you have something bad to say about the vendor then why not start a bad guy thread about them that way all the negative talk can be left in there instead of spread throughout the board and good guy threads. Or, if you feel you really need to reach out to the member who posted something good about a vendor and tell the user what a bad guy the vendor is, send it to them in a PM if you dont want to post up a bad guy thread?

Just my .02 cents...

dannobre

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Especially when it is always the same individuals that have never had any direct dealings with the vendor in question....

Quit trying to light the broom on fire....

tiptoe

In my recent transaction with Scott I could not be more satisfied with his service and willingness to help and answer questions. He was always in contact which is handy for me being in australia.
The parts I ordered did take longer to come than he originally stated but contact was maintained all through the waiting period.
My only suggestion for future buyers would be to confirm if parts are in stock or not.
To all the guys crapping on the good guy thread....why don't you go make another bad guy thread? Oh wait, because no one will read it because we have already read it a million times!

9krpmrx8

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If you guys want to forgive and forget and act like Scott is a good and honest business person then so be it, I could care less, that is you prerogative. I disagree and I will post about it whenever I damn well please. You don't like? Then add me to your ignore list and you won't ever see my posts again. People have a right to know who they are dealing with and I have a right to state my opinion on the matter. We are all adults, you can take what I say and consider it if you are a prospective customer or don't, that's your right.

But here is what I KNOW that is recent and not from his past at Masport/RR/Minds Eye. He is not honest and forthcoming about reasons for delays (Flooding, Hurricane Sandy, it's at the PC shop, it's shipping tomorrow, oh wait next week, oh sorry but next week, etc.)

He shipped an oil pan that did not fit and needed quite a bit of work in order to get it to fit. He never notified the customer (a somewhat frequent customer) that there was a problem with the pan, and he never offered a fix, refund, or anything else. The only time he mentioned anything about the problem with the pans was after the fact when it was brought up here by yours truly.

Don't you think he should have called the people he sold the fucked up pans too and offered to fix them or offer some other sort of compensation for the **** up? Sure fixing the pan may not be a major deal to fix for some, but for others it may have been a total pain in the *** to take your pan off and then find out your $400.00 oil pan doesn't fit. Especially if you were paying someone else to do the work and your car was a daily driver.

I don't expect anyone to handle every transaction perfectly but what I do expect is honesty and that honesty should be forth coming, not forced. It doesn't help that he is banned vendor that is notorious for being dishonest. And if you do end up a happy customer then good for you, you got lucky IMO.

Think what you want, but my only motive is to keep someone else from getting dicked around the way others have. But I guess to some it's ok for a vendor to be dishonest as long as the item paid for eventually gets shipped.

dannobre

iTrader: (3)

Problem with the pan in question was the time between purchase and the install....it would have been expected that it had been installed before it was

I also think that there were a number made at the same time and they all didn't have the flap welded in the incorrect spot. Also most were caught by the fabricator..so it was difficult to know which ones were going to be a problem.

I find it strange that you are the one complaining about this...and not the actual purchaser

So once again...you are complaining about something that wasn't your issue....

........I think that would be nice for a while

TeamRX8

iTrader: (25)

I'm not asking you to forgive or forget anything. I don't agree with continuously crapping on people who are reporting good experiences. You can crap all you want on the general forum or bad guy threads. And say whatever you want, but you and some other people might be further along had you bought your turbo kits from him ....