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Old 09-20-2011, 05:47 PM
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or else? ..


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wow...is that an unnamed person from an unnamed thread on and unnamed forum calling an unnamed person and making those threats?
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Originally Posted by StealthTL
ERX8 - you have no proof to call MM a thief - I have dealt with him for years, and he is no thief.

You may want to apologize, or reword that post.......

Or else.


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At this time, the only one who have to produce the proof is Jeff. Remember i've paid him about 2000$ 2 years ago.

When i will have received the turbo i will make public excuses like i said before.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
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you want to play?

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Old 09-20-2011, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by StealthTL
ERX8 - you have no proof to call MM a thief - I have dealt with him for years, and he is no thief.

You may want to apologize, or reword that post.......

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funny that you won't suggest for him to communicate with the customer ... or else ....
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if anything I would say there are fewer threads complaining about MM. I remember a point when there were around half a dozen active threads with varying degrees of "off with his head" in them.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
funny that you won't suggest for him to communicate with the customer ... or else ....
This forum seems to have a syndicate of crime:

On the one hand a vendor very popular who prefear give the phone number of his customer on youtube instead of just giving him the tracking tracking number of his turbo, if this only this turbo really exists. Simply beacuse i try desperatly to join him to know the truth about my order. Is it a crime in my position?

It proofs the level maliciousness and relentlessness of this guy.


And on the other hand few partisans who support him blindly and who threaten to delete this thread. I would like them to be in my shoes, or in shoes of Luxluc, because i repeat i'm not the only one in this situation.

I'm talking to the moderators and friend of him: why don't you ask him to give me this ******* tracking number and to explain me the situation to stop this situation?
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
funny that you won't suggest for him to communicate with the customer ... or else ....
Once again - What makes you think I have not?

So, I'll just say "Team eats kitten *********".

Now, it is fact that you eat kitten *********, no matter what anyone - including you - says.

This particular individual has suddenly found himself in an entirely different ball game when he decided to call me at home at 4:00am in the morning and threaten my life.

EDIT - I love the irony - His avatar is a picture of my car! lol

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Old 09-20-2011, 11:42 PM
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Once again - What makes you think I have not?

So, I'll just say "Team eats kitten *********".

Now, it is fact that you eat kitten *********, no matter what anyone - including you - says.

This particular individual has suddenly found himself in an entirely different ball game when he decided to call me at home at 4:00am in the morning and threaten my life.

EDIT - I love the irony - His avatar is a picture of my car! lol

So just give this tracking number! I think it is the slightest thing you can do after 2 ******* years of despair.

About the phone call, i think your silence has been like an intolerable provocation!
If only you had answered to all my mails...

Other members would have done the same thing like me over 2 years.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Once again - What makes you think I have not?l
The last two years or so ...

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
So, I'll just say "Team eats kitten *********".

Now, it is fact that you eat kitten *********, no matter what anyone - including you - says.
When you told me the previous kits had shipped did I question this or did I take your word for it?

Otherwise kitten ***** are quite tasty, but it takes too many to make a meal so I prefer mountain oysters instead. I could probably name off a number of Japanese delicacies that I prefer which you would find more offensive to eat than kitten ***** ....
Old 09-21-2011, 03:02 AM
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As I said before.

MM is a very poor company which I don't recommend to anyone who asks me.

I cancelled my order one and a half year ago, asking Jeff to refund me the 2000+ $ I paid.

I didn't even get an e-mail back ... that shows very very poor customer interest.

I'm happy I don't have to deal with him again.
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Originally Posted by StealthTL
ERX8 - you have no proof to call MM a thief - I have dealt with him for years, and he is no thief.

You may want to apologize, or reword that post.......

Or else.


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Hello "StealthTL".

"Mazdamaniac" tooks "ERX8" money two years ago, then never sent anything, and keeps on telling stories ( you know Tracy Chapman's song ? ), waiting for something nobody can't understand or even know.

How do you call that ?

What do you think of "MM"'s last intervention ? (the phone number)

Intimidation ? What's wrong with that guy ? Are you paranoîac MM ? Your life's been threatened by a guy living in Europa ? Oh dear.

He's actually stealing money of two people, maybe that wasn't his intention in the beginning, it's quite even sure in my opinion, we know MM's work is good, maybe he really had some troubles with any manufacturer, but now, he's drowning in his communication and professionnal organisation as we allready saw this in the past, exactly in the way way and for the same product, then he's got a choice to do, re-funding, or assuming. Acts are the only really counting things when you reach two years after the payment, words or intentions don't count anymore. Maybe shipping would be a solution yeah, to be honnest, it's hard to believe he still can in the present situation, and i wouldn't accept this by the way if i was the involved person.

Just refund it, and it's over... It's simple to get out from this maze you're losing in...

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Old 09-21-2011, 05:51 AM
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Thank you guys for supporting me! : Ylsuper:

It seems that several guys now are really understanding my position, and perhaps my acts.

Why don't you answer me when i call you if you have made your job?

Now Jeff must be sleeping now but tomorrow he will explain us why he persists in not giving Luxluc an me only one proof that he has already shipped our kits.



Because definitively Jeff's activity hasn't any credibility now
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Originally Posted by StealthTL
ERX8 - you have no proof to call MM a thief - I have dealt with him for years, and he is no thief.

You may want to apologize, or reword that post.......

Or else.


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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
funny that you won't suggest for him to communicate with the customer ... or else ....
He was, as a Moderator, dealing with a post on the site. We have no control over the way a member or vendor handles their business (other than outright fraud). Besides, that suggestion has been made many times.
Old 09-21-2011, 07:09 AM
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im sure there is a reason why MM havent ship this kits and here it goes, u are the only guys since u live in Europe that cant make a case on court and sue his ***. MM = Fail
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So here's my question:

Does calling your vendor and threatening to "kill them" make the vendor more or less likely to cooperate with you?
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Is it time for MM to "come clean".
How many more of these type of situations are out there?
Jeez.
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Originally Posted by Flashwing
So here's my question:

Does calling your vendor and threatening to "kill them" make the vendor more or less likely to cooperate with you?
Do you find natural to make diplomacy to obtain something i paid fully?!!!

With Jeff, could you tell me what kind of cooperation is possible in front of the most absolut silence during 25 monthes?
You cannot cooperate when someone don't want to answer to your mail.
I've tried everything to have news, and during the last monthes i was obliged to contact (the very serious) Charles from your team, who felt disapointed for me but who wasn't able to make anything to oblige Jeff to communicate with his customers. I know that Charles has helped Jeff to finish the kits more quickly. Thanks for that Charles.

On top of that if you speak about cooperation it means that the kits are still in Nevada and that we have to pray God more than Jeff to ship our orders.


I admit that a menace won't put things right, but it forced Jeff to get out of his silence. And it was the only goal. Even if i am really excessed at this stage, what everyone in my shoes could easily understand.

Sorry for the menace Jeff... but i won't give up to obtain my kit and to help Luxluc to have his : Banghead:
even if i have to take a ticket to Phoenix
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Originally Posted by ERX8
Do you find natural to make diplomacy to obtain something i paid fully?!!!
You didn't answer my question.
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Originally Posted by Flashwing
You didn't answer my question.
I've never said " them" not at all , i've just said " you" speaking about MM, only.

I haven't included nobody else in my threaten, but Jeff. You can believe me.

I won't accept any confusion that could return against me : Nono:



Visibly,some people really know how to change the victim into guilty, but who, and why : Confused:
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Originally Posted by ERX8
I know that Charles has helped Jeff to finish the kits more quickly. Thanks for that Charles.
Charles and BHR had nothing to do with the GReddy Upgrade kits at any point.
That is still - and will remain - the case.

Originally Posted by ERX8
it means that the kits are still in Nevada and that we have to pray God more than Jeff to ship our orders.
Nevada? God?

Originally Posted by ERX8
I admit that a menace won't put things right, but it forced Jeff to get out of his silence.
There was no "silence", just your intransigence. You "forced" nothing more than a revelation of your true nature.

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even if i have to take a ticket to Phoenix
I'll be waiting.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Jeff is more than capable of representing his own position in this, Todd.
Thanks for your cooperation Charles, because it was a real one, and you were not obliged!
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Also, I have to admit that I am intrigued by your avatar.
First you were expressing some sort of love for my car by posting a nice picture of it from 5 years ago and now you are actually mitigating your own assertions about your kit by actually posting a picture of it!
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Jeff is more than capable of representing his own position in this, Todd.
I never doubted him for a moment.
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Originally Posted by Flashwing
I never doubted him for a moment.
I only think Ray is asserting that it is best if you guys remain neutral in the whole thing and I concur.

If this nut-job follows through on his assertions, its gonna be messy.


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