nycgps

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Anybody actually got their warranty voided by turning VDC off ?

Rotary Mike

There is this fishy story. I think it isn't true.
http://jalopnik.com/5061221/gt+r-own...under-warranty

I think Nissan is just scared of gaining a bad rep from people beating the hell out of their cars and breaking them.

The one good thing about vette's though is that they can take a beating. I watched a guy when the Z06 first came out do roughly 30 runs at the drag strip. He was hot lapping for about 10 of them in a row at one point.

Rotary Mike

I can't believe that the vette is only .3 seconds off of the Viper ACR time considering the Viper is a purpose built street/race car.

There is no lip that needs to attached/detached every time you head to the track on the Corvette.

D Baize

My C5 Corvette does real well, very driveable. Stock they produce 350hp and 350 lb. ft. trq. I have a bit more with Borla catback exhaust and K&N FIPK2 intake. The great thing about both C5 and C6 Corvettes(models with the LS3)is that they are not burdened with a gas guzzler tax!!! My last trip I got 28mpg!!!

devildog1679

Soon there will be

Icemark

No, it doesn't void the warranty. The warranty never covered it.

The warranty specifically excludes damage caused by driving the car with the VDC off in more than stuck in mud/snow situations. The owners manual specifically says, that the only time you can turn the VDC off is if you are stuck in poor traction conditions, and that you will not be covered if you drive the car in normal conditions with it off.

So all the fanbois and speedfreak owners that had to prove the car can do a under 4 second 0-60, that turn VDC off (which forces the Launch Control Easter Egg on) simply do not have warranty coverage if they break something while doing that.

Remember that car has a black box that records the last 48 hours or so of operation. When the dealer plugs it in, they can easily see what the owner has been doing.

alfy28

yep this person (jking)

poor G35, didnt know what hit him

digitalSniperX1

Mazda should take note and add an engine replacement page in the RX-8 owners manual.

Pretty much sucks any way you look at it. Never heard of such a thing.

Icemark

why??? for the 15 percent of pre-06 owners that have had to change their engines???


Hardly worth a page when half of them were just clueless dealers that replaced engines instead of fixing the real problems.

playdoh43

yay youre back. My friend who has a GT-R turned it off and launched it several times, and the dealership assured him he did not void his warranty. Its only voided if they find "signs of miss use and abuse." What does that mean? I dont knowm but turning it off certainly does not void the warranty. . Nissan is pulling a stupid move, and deserve the negative pub for it.

Icemark

Yeah, like the dealer really has anything to do with a warranty on any car.

I suppose you would think it does. But they don't. I sure would not trust any dealer to actually tell the truth on a use issue. Service departments make money on fixing broken cars, not on warranty issues.

If your "friend" really has a GT-R then you can look under what is not covered under warranty yourself (in his owners manual) and find the statement "Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in mud or snow".

Either way, again it is not a warranty issue. It is an issue of the warranty not covering specific use, not of voiding a warranty. I guess you don't get how many times I have said that so I will say it again... It is an issue of the warranty not covering specific use, not of voiding a warranty.

A warranty can't be voided on something that it specifically does not cover. So (again) no voided warranty.

RotoRocket

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Chevy hit a grandslam with this. No ifs, ands or buts...

devildog1679

Goes to show that Chevy actually built a car that allows you to post the same numbers without worrying about voiding the warranty. Next Nissan will put Nos in the 370Z and claim some crazy numbers then tell you that if you use it you lose it If the GTR ran the ring with the VDC turned off, I think that time should be stricken, and force them to run the ring with it on, then use that # as the official record. The GTR is starting to look like a poser. Though a poser I would love to have.

JRichter

ZR1 engine being built:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/30/v...e-being-built/

devildog1679

nice find

playdoh43

hahaha, well what youre saying makes sense. shame on nissan for doing that. sounds like "if you break it doing stuff on the track then you pay for it." pretty lame.

see people can actually agree with you when you are not lying and pulling things out of your *** :p

MyNam3IsM33TBALL

Just another example of narrow-minded people with the "bigger is better" mentality. There are multiple reasons why the GT-R is so much more car than the ZR-1. i.e. advanced computer systems, 4 seats, "snow" mode for winter drivability, LOWER PRICE etc. etc.

Domestic Muscle has always needed size for power...imports on the other hand do it with technology.

Not to mention youre comparing the GT-R to the ZR-1....just wait till the GT-R V-SPEC comes out...330 lbs lighter with 70 more horses...now THAT will be a better comparison.

playdoh43

^^^ the ZR-1 IS better than the GT-R overall. Dosnt take anything away from it loosing to a fine car like the ZR-1

is there any shame in that?? lol? the GT-R is still kicking *** in its class, we are talking about the z06 and 911 turbo.

there will certainly be more comparisons when the Vspec comes out. I'm pretty sure Nissan is hard at work with the ZR-1 and many other high end cars in its crosshair right now. And thats what makes it great because everyones competing, no one is king of the hill forever.

MyNam3IsM33TBALL

I can agree that on the TRACK the ZR-1 is better than the GT-R...but as far as OVERALL including track/road/drivability/practicality/ and price for performance in consideration the GT-R is BETTER overall.

The V-Spec will definitely be interesting to compare!

JRichter

Remember, there is still a few people out there that like to actually drive their own cars w/ very little electronic manipulation. No doubt the GT-R is great but I'd be willing to bet the ZR1 would always be more fun to drive (bad weather excluded) when it came to pure thrills.

Put a driver in each of the cars and accelerate form a stand still up to say 175 mph with some heart monitoring equipment attached and most likely the ZR1 driver will register way more excited.

GT-R you would have for a daily driver, ZR1 would be your nice weather/weekend car.

playdoh43

I certainly agree, i am speaking of overall performance the ZR-1 is better than the GT-R. the GT-R after all does provide a lot of value in its back seat and awd tracktion during snow and rainy days that makes the vette impractical. Its a car that you can use as a daily driver and go kick *** at the track. 99% of people spends 99% of the times driving on the road, not on the track and have no business turning off the VDC to begin with. still, dosnt make what nissan is doing right.

RotoRocket

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Nissan is playing games with the GTR on the warranty. You can't even wring out its full potential without worrying that they'll screw you over on your warranty in case something breaks.

Fuq 'em.

nycgps

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V-spec gonna kick ***

Carbon fiber body parts, Carbon brakes (which street car has this anyway?), more hp, better shocks, no rear seats to save weight, etc.

playdoh43

nissan is just more blunt about it, take your rx8 to the track and run 50 laps and do 6000 rpm launches all day until the tranny breaks, then goto mazda and see if they will replace it under warranty

nycgps

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You cant really blame them.

Cuz the truth is, under normal driving condition you DO NOT NEED to turn VDC off. and Nissan clearly saids that if u turn VDC off and break something. u're on ur own. I think that's very reasonable.

Try to take your 8 out and do 9K clutch drop for 50 times and tow it to your Mazda dealer and fix it under warranty.