ZR1 makes second lap at the Ring, shaves 4 seconds off time
10-29-2008, 05:37 PM
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U can use the VDC as long as u dont abuse the **** outta it like em dumbass ppl who buy the GTR and decide they want to show it off at every light and intersection! Yes u can use it but no u cant do it 10 times a friggin day! do u think ur RX8 clutch would last if everytime u took it out of the garage u launch it onto the driveway?!?!?! and dont give me that 'read the owners manual' bullshit because for starters a friend of mine owns a pearl white GTR and i too own a R34 GTR so im pretty darn sure i know what i am saying...... haters will be haters!
10-29-2008, 06:21 PM
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The fact that they put a dedicated chart in the manual to document transmission replacements should be a red flag. Nissan also has owners sign a waiver that they understand turning off VDC voids the trans warranty. 
Back to the ZR1.
Back to the ZR1.
10-29-2008, 06:34 PM
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so that fact that Mazda making a recall on the renesis must be a red flag that the rx8 engine is a time bomb waiting to happen. same hater logic as the idiots on the civic forums bad mouthing the rx8.
10-29-2008, 07:37 PM
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U can use the VDC as long as u dont abuse the **** outta it like em dumbass ppl who buy the GTR and decide they want to show it off at every light and intersection! Yes u can use it but no u cant do it 10 times a friggin day! do u think ur RX8 clutch would last if everytime u took it out of the garage u launch it onto the driveway?!?!?! and dont give me that 'read the owners manual' bullshit because for starters a friend of mine owns a pearl white GTR and i too own a R34 GTR so im pretty darn sure i know what i am saying...... haters will be haters!
). Either way I have a feeling that a very good majority of the people that own the things are extremely happy with their purchase because having been along on a ride in one they certainly aren't too shabby! I mean cmon guys I'd think out of anyone an Rx8 owners forum would know that sometimes people just like to have a car that's a little different regardless if it is the fastest thing out there.
10-29-2008, 11:21 PM
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Recall = discoving a problem AFTER THE FACT
Having owners sign a waiver as they're BUYING the car = totally different scenario.
back to the Zee Really Fast 1
10-29-2008, 11:22 PM
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HAHA!!! Anyone else notice that autoblog mispelled Corvette in their gallery?!
"Covette ZR1 burnouts"
"Covette ZR1 burnouts"
10-29-2008, 11:31 PM
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Some ppl might not know whats HKS's VAC ? Cuz in Japan, the GPS system on GT-R is used for detecting the car's location, if the location is around Race tracks in Japan, the Lock will "automatically turn off". So people can use Full power of the car. VAC is a sub comp to defeat the 180km Lock on GT-R, it also takes over Tranny's operation after the 180km. Not sure if the US version has this lock tho.
signing a waiver does not mean that the tranny will blow up in seconds. It might be a bit too much, but hey if Im Nissan I probably do the same thing.
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10-30-2008, 12:04 AM
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... they knew that their trany sucks / cant handle the power so they insured their a$$ from any one who wanted to use their car as it was ment to be.
In other words car is not suited for takeoffs, cant imagine that trany will last that long on the track when racing with other cars / obstacles.
- car is total failure for the price
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10-30-2008, 12:12 AM
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If you turn of VDC you void you warranty - and it gets recorded in black box for some time .... so they will know
... they knew that their trany sucks / cant handle the power so they insured their a$$ from any one who wanted to use their car as it was ment to be.
In other words car is not suited for takeoffs, cant imagine that trany will last that long on the track when racing with other cars / obstacles.
- car is total failure for the price
... they knew that their trany sucks / cant handle the power so they insured their a$$ from any one who wanted to use their car as it was ment to be.
In other words car is not suited for takeoffs, cant imagine that trany will last that long on the track when racing with other cars / obstacles.
- car is total failure for the price
Sorry but I seen enough proof that this engine and tranny can take TONS of abuse. Nissan has said that this tranny is good for up to around 650 whp(!) b4 stronger parts are needed. Is that enough ?
Do you know that Porsche will void ur warranty if they know u have been racing ? no need to sign any waivers but they do check ur computer for data, its not that hard to tell what the owner has been doing to their car.
10-30-2008, 02:06 AM
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If you turn of VDC you void you warranty - and it gets recorded in black box for some time .... so they will know
... they knew that their trany sucks / cant handle the power so they insured their a$$ from any one who wanted to use their car as it was ment to be.
In other words car is not suited for takeoffs, cant imagine that trany will last that long on the track when racing with other cars / obstacles.
- car is total failure for the price
... they knew that their trany sucks / cant handle the power so they insured their a$$ from any one who wanted to use their car as it was ment to be.
In other words car is not suited for takeoffs, cant imagine that trany will last that long on the track when racing with other cars / obstacles.
- car is total failure for the price
10-30-2008, 07:03 AM
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Sorry but I seen enough proof that this engine and tranny can take TONS of abuse. Nissan has said that this tranny is good for up to around 650 whp(!) b4 stronger parts are needed. Is that enough ?
Do you know that Porsche will void ur warranty if they know u have been racing ? no need to sign any waivers but they do check ur computer for data, its not that hard to tell what the owner has been doing to their car.
Do you know that Porsche will void ur warranty if they know u have been racing ? no need to sign any waivers but they do check ur computer for data, its not that hard to tell what the owner has been doing to their car.
From all reports the tranny cant take the abuse, this is why all tuners have stopped at the 600 or so hp mark. The Japanese tuners were the first to find this limit.
However, tuners are beginning to question how the stock gearbox will hold up under the strain of additional output. MCR, which brought out its GT-R for filming of Hot Version 93, has been exacting its own brand of punishment on its tuned GT-R and is worried how long the transmission will last. It's not clear if the tranny woes are due to the clutch plates or something else, but it's been all but confirmed that dual-clutch gearboxes have an issue with additional torque since the friction surface is much smaller than on a stock (read: single plate) clutch. MCR's best guesstimate is that the stock 'box might only be able to hold up to the additional power for 12 months before problems begin arise.
10-30-2008, 07:06 AM
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NOW BACK TO THE ZR1
ZR1 Goes 200+ MPH! - 2009 Corvette ZR1 Top Speed Run
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MxwZhWQYWcQ
ZR1 Goes 200+ MPH! - 2009 Corvette ZR1 Top Speed Run
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MxwZhWQYWcQ
10-30-2008, 07:44 AM
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and that does not make the Tranny suck, at stock form, its more than enough.
So if we turbo charge our 8 and then something breaks, and Mazda is not covering it, can we say our car sucks ? I know I wouldn't, but I know people like tibyABv6 would and there are more people like tibyABv6 out there than people like me. OMG IT SUX !
what makes people think that they have the right to "abuse" it and expect Nissan to cover it 100% ?
According to owners, Porsche are more generous when breaking parts in a racing environment. Porsche knows that its biggest advantage is through its racing image and its racing history. Like the corvette guys Porsche will generally replace the parts even when they suspect abuse and tell the owner that the next breakage might not be covered.
10-30-2008, 07:55 AM
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rofl. another one of those "his mom's friend's dad's neighbor's friend's uncle's sister's friend's cousin's dog said ... " bs
Sorry but I seen enough proof that this engine and tranny can take TONS of abuse. Nissan has said that this tranny is good for up to around 650 whp(!) b4 stronger parts are needed. Is that enough ?
Do you know that Porsche will void ur warranty if they know u have been racing ? no need to sign any waivers but they do check ur computer for data, its not that hard to tell what the owner has been doing to their car.
Sorry but I seen enough proof that this engine and tranny can take TONS of abuse. Nissan has said that this tranny is good for up to around 650 whp(!) b4 stronger parts are needed. Is that enough ?
Do you know that Porsche will void ur warranty if they know u have been racing ? no need to sign any waivers but they do check ur computer for data, its not that hard to tell what the owner has been doing to their car.
10-30-2008, 10:32 AM
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I'm not so sure about the waiver either, but it is specifically printed in their owners manual that turning it off can be cause to void the warranty of the car.
10-30-2008, 10:41 AM
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Just like Our rx-8, we dont have to sign a wavier, but if we turn it off completely and some accident happen, insurance company has the right to deny the claim, correct ?
Some people might hate it. but hey, thats the rule.
Dont like it ? dont buy it.
Turn it off ? u're on ur own now buddy.
Not to mention, you can still use aftermarket ECU(like Mine's or Amuse) or HKS's VAC to defeat that.
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10-30-2008, 10:43 AM
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^^its definitely bad on nissan's part. But its a case of them trying to cover their *** because they know some people will be driving it hard competitively and recreationally on the track, and they dont want to end up having to spend a lot of money replacing parts that were abused. This does not translate into GT-R's tranny is a ticking time bomb. Some haters like to get carried away.
Eitherway, ZR-1 > GT-R, good for Chevy and good for the vette. No props to the haters who are pulling things out of their ***.
Eitherway, ZR-1 > GT-R, good for Chevy and good for the vette. No props to the haters who are pulling things out of their ***.
10-30-2008, 11:40 AM
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Because under normal driving condition, there is no reason to turn VDC off.
Just like Our rx-8, we dont have to sign a wavier, but if we turn it off completely and some accident happen, insurance company has the right to deny the claim, correct ?
Some people might hate it. but hey, thats the rule.
Dont like it ? dont buy it.
Turn it off ? u're on ur own now buddy.
Not to mention, you can still use aftermarket ECU(like Mine's or Amuse) or HKS's VAC to defeat that.
Just like Our rx-8, we dont have to sign a wavier, but if we turn it off completely and some accident happen, insurance company has the right to deny the claim, correct ?
Some people might hate it. but hey, thats the rule.
Dont like it ? dont buy it.
Turn it off ? u're on ur own now buddy.
Not to mention, you can still use aftermarket ECU(like Mine's or Amuse) or HKS's VAC to defeat that.
Edit: Just found this "Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control
(VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in
mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual)." How would they know you weren't stuck in snow or mud?
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10-30-2008, 12:08 PM
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what about 
Edit: Just found this "Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control
(VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in
mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual)." How would they know you weren't stuck in snow or mud?
...if you dont brake your trany they will not know since they will not pull information from it ... if you brake your trany while rocking your car with VDC of they will asume that you had done hard takeof and void woranty ... i don't think those tranies are repairable since no one knows how in US...they also might look on how many time it was of and for what period of time, but they will always blame it on you since dealer will not want to pay $20,000 for new trany
Edit: Just found this "Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control
(VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in
mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual)." How would they know you weren't stuck in snow or mud?
...if you dont brake your trany they will not know since they will not pull information from it ... if you brake your trany while rocking your car with VDC of they will asume that you had done hard takeof and void woranty ... i don't think those tranies are repairable since no one knows how in US...they also might look on how many time it was of and for what period of time, but they will always blame it on you since dealer will not want to pay $20,000 for new trany
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10-30-2008, 12:29 PM
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