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2012 Honda Civic Si Sedan (fully loaded)
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Wich one?

I've asked a question like this before but this one is much more suitable since the choices are on the same level now lol

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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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GTI. Be more exclusive and you won't be part of the Honda group
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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is neither an option :D ... i would just wait for the new genesis coupe
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
is neither an option :D ... i would just wait for the new genesis coupe
lol the genesis would be an option but im steering away from 2 doors
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:08 AM
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GTI would be my choice with no hesitation. I'd imagine the civic to be more reliable, but the GTI seems like a more enjoyable car and will have more practical use. I like VW styling a lot more and I prefer the engines for many reasons.

Do you like to modify your cars? I definitely feel like the VW scene is much better for modifications. Just a basic tune for the GTI can produce quite a bit more power for relatively cheap. Plus, a lot of the companies that work on VW's and sell aftermarket parts also work with cars like Audi and Porsche. This seems to result in rather high quality parts at a rather fair price.

It might be worth looking at the Golf R. It is going to be a bit more expensive than the fully loaded GTI, but the AWD would be nice if it is within your budget. That would definitely be a nice option if you aren't looking to modify the cars at all or plan on waiting for a while. The R offers more power and better suspension components. It also comes with a few special features, like the seats.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:20 AM
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GTI would be my choice with no hesitation. I'd imagine the civic to be more reliable, but the GTI seems like a more enjoyable car and will have more practical use. I like VW styling a lot more and I prefer the engines for many reasons.

Do you like to modify your cars? I definitely feel like the VW scene is much better for modifications. Just a basic tune for the GTI can produce quite a bit more power for relatively cheap. Plus, a lot of the companies that work on VW's and sell aftermarket parts also work with cars like Audi and Porsche. This seems to result in rather high quality parts at a rather fair price.

It might be worth looking at the Golf R. It is going to be a bit more expensive than the fully loaded GTI, but the AWD would be nice if it is within your budget. That would definitely be a nice option if you aren't looking to modify the cars at all or plan on waiting for a while. The R offers more power and better suspension components. It also comes with a few special features, like the seats.
Oh trust me I've considered everything and I've done substantial amount of research. A family friend has a mk5 gti and recently bought a mk6 gti because he liked it so much. Being that I live in NY awd would be nice, however this gentleman said that the gti drives just fine against the snow. Who else better to ask for an opinion of the car than someone who has one and actually went to go get another lol.
Although it seems like a no brainer because of the quality interior in the gti, I still find the civic si a rather compelling car for the price. I feel that we've become so spoiled with all the nitty and gritty gimmicks that come with cars and all sorts of options. I'm looking for a modest sporty car which suits both these cars. They both produce the same mpg as well so there's no competition in that department.
I have been in a 8th gen civic si sedan and at the time I had a Evo X and I was quite impressed since my expectations werent so high due to everyones hate and jokes for the car. I priced them both out fully loaded: the civic si for about $27,000 and the gti for about $30,000. So you do obviously pay for the quality interior and other things as well.
The way I see it is like this, its going to be an improvement no matter which I go with but thats my opinion so I wouldnt expect everyone or anyone to agree. I have test driven the 2011 gti which isnt all that different from the 2012 and to be quite honest I would not miss my RX8 all that much lol. I look to pay a visit to a local honda dealership some time soon and hopefully test drive one and see for myself!
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:31 AM
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Wow, that's a tough one... I think the GTI will win you over in terms of build quality and practicality. I'm a hatchback lover at heart anyway, and I think the MkVI Golf body beats the Si in looks by a mile.

Also factor in negotiation, when it comes to price. The GTI might be 3k more on the window sticker, but the gap could be a lot smaller if you are a good price negotiator.

Any reason you haven't also mentioned the Speed3? Genpu is more powerful than both of the other two, and costs less than either.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 09:01 AM
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GTI, hands down. Like mentioned, quality is great (I have 194,000 on an 02 mk4 jetta, still runs perfectly), does great in the snow with a set of blizzaks, plus for mods you've got the entire APR (Audi Performance Racing) catalog plus countless DIYs that can get you 30+ HP for not much $.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kvndoom
Wow, that's a tough one... I think the GTI will win you over in terms of build quality and practicality. I'm a hatchback lover at heart anyway, and I think the MkVI Golf body beats the Si in looks by a mile.

Also factor in negotiation, when it comes to price. The GTI might be 3k more on the window sticker, but the gap could be a lot smaller if you are a good price negotiator.

Any reason you haven't also mentioned the Speed3? Genpu is more powerful than both of the other two, and costs less than either.
True true and I have considered the speed3 but I'm not all too sure about the interior. However, I am keeping my options open and my little sister is getting a mazda 3 sedan so why not test drive it while I'm at the dealer with the family lol
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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I'll say the volks. Didn't like the shape of the new civic.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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ok so lets say if the 2012 speed3 and the 2012 jetta gli were on there...What say you guys???
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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GTI. Although I'm a bit biased as I previously owned an '07 Fahrenheit GTI and I currently own a '10 Jetta Sportwagen TDI and my main group of friends is from a local VW club
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 03:52 AM
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I'd probably still say GTI. I haven't driven either, but the styling of the GTI has always had more appeal to me than the 3 hatchbacks. Don't get me wrong... The 3 is a decent looking car, but it never had a whole lot of visual appeal for me. Even the MS versions seemed kind of lackluster. The design of the GTI always made it seem like a fun car. In stock form, it seems like the MS3 might be the better choice for performance.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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Speed3.

I test drove the Gti and found it rather bland. And there was something weird going on with the pedals that made it difficult to heel-toe.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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I voted for the VW GTI. I haven't driven either, so I'm not basing it off of much but just seems cooler.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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JDM, b*tch!!

Speed3 is the better car in my opinion. Better looks, better performance, comfier.. and it's a Mazda..
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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The only issue with VW is that you'll need their "special tools" to perform maintenance on the car, which most ppl ended up just bring it to the stealership.

As hondas are more reliable and easy to work around in every spec.
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