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With that kind of commute, I would never subject something sporty to it. Just pick whatever sport-sedan you like. It doesn't matter. Put in drive and commute away.
That said, two things...
1) The rx-8 has no problems fitting child seats at the back. With its suicide doors, it is easy for egress and ingress. My RX8 did part time baby--> children duties through its 13 years of life with me. We even took it for family road trips. The trunk swallowed a Preg-Pereggo stroller and luggages.
2) Selling a fully paid off low value rx-8 to buy a brand new 40k car to save gas is a weak reason. Simply do the math. Besides, OP lives in Texas.... gas is cheap!
If you want to buy a new car just said so. Totally fine with it but whenever I hear folks saying I am selling this <insert car> to buy a fuel saver car it's lame. How many years and km before you make gain back? the future value of the new car will be toast by then. The above choices from M2 to Mustang to Cayman offers marginally better if not worse gas mileage plus additional financial outlay. Can't see any logic to it.
With your commute route, I'd buy a "I dont' give a $hit sedan" and buy another RX8 for those days you have the need, the need for scream.
I'm not sure where the idea for the maxima came from, but if you're willing to consider that, why not a Mazda6 GT with the 2.5 turbo engine? Interior is much nicer and it drives nicely too.
Mazda currently have 1000 back, plus 750 if you still have your RX-8 (750 back for current Mazda owners): https://www.mazdausa.com/shopping-to...and-incentives
Take any dealer discounts off as well and there's probably a pretty good deal to be had on a new one.
With that kind of commute, I would never subject something sporty to it. Just pick whatever sport-sedan you like. It doesn't matter. Put in drive and commute away.
That said, two things...
1) The rx-8 has no problems fitting child seats at the back. With its suicide doors, it is easy for egress and ingress. My RX8 did part time baby--> children duties through its 13 years of life with me. We even took it for family road trips. The trunk swallowed a Preg-Pereggo stroller and luggages.
2) Selling a fully paid off low value rx-8 to buy a brand new 40k car to save gas is a weak reason. Simply do the math. Besides, OP lives in Texas.... gas is cheap!
If you want to buy a new car just said so. Totally fine with it but whenever I hear folks saying I am selling this <insert car> to buy a fuel saver car it's lame. How many years and km before you make gain back? the future value of the new car will be toast by then. The above choices from M2 to Mustang to Cayman offers marginally better if not worse gas mileage plus additional financial outlay. Can't see any logic to it.
With your commute route, I'd buy a "I dont' give a $hit sedan" and buy another RX8 for those days you have the need, the need for scream.
I guess you missed the part about it being an awesome commute that begs for a sports car, or a touring car at least. That being the case, it is difficult to take the rest of your post seriously.
There are many reasons to trade cars. Better gas mileage is but one of them. It isn't the cost of gas so much as having to fill up literally every other day.
I'm sure I could find a booster seat that fits, but we have 3, and none fit properly. The current trend is wide boosters, and they don't fit. Certainly not to my wife's satisfaction.
There are certain aspects of the RX-8 I miss, but I do not find myself wanting another one.
Originally Posted by blu3dragon
Good to hear your impressions of the mustang.
I'm not sure where the idea for the maxima came from, but if you're willing to consider that, why not a Mazda6 GT with the 2.5 turbo engine? Interior is much nicer and it drives nicely too.
Mazda currently have 1000 back, plus 750 if you still have your RX-8 (750 back for current Mazda owners): https://www.mazdausa.com/shopping-to...and-incentives
Take any dealer discounts off as well and there's probably a pretty good deal to be had on a new one.
The Mustang ticks some boxes, and it is a good car, just not a good car for me. They have definitely come a LONG way in just a few years.
The Maxima idea came from the car losing half its value inside 2 years. That means you can get a lot of performance for ~$20K in a low mileage package. It was worth checking out, although I'm still losing sleep over that interior. If the Mazda 6 still had a manual option, I would probably already have one in the garage. If I have to settle for an auto, it is still in the running.
However, I just test drove a 2016 BMW M235i... I think I'm at least in temporary lust. My impression was that it is 95% of an RX-8 with TORQUE. No rotary scream to be sure, but it has its own thing going on, and that thing is very groovy. Under $30K. Now to see if I can find one in near perfect condition...
Last edited by Steve Dallas; 08-19-2019 at 07:41 PM.
I went from an Rx8 as my daily driver to a lexus is350 fsport as I found an outstanding deal on one at my local porsche dealership. Anyways if you can live without a manual and since you will never go to the track you may consider one. It does not handle as well as the Rx8 but gets better gas millage and has more room in the back seat for the kids. It can be fun to drive on sport mode.
Here's an odd suggestion that I think checks most of your boxes...Kia Stinger. I've never driver one, but they are good looking cars (at least that's my opinion). Sadly it's slushbox only and weighs nearly 2 tons, so I have serious doubts it will be able to approach the dynamic experience of the RX-8. Though the V6 models do have 365 HP, so there's that.
Personally, I would have tried to find a child seat that fit in the RX-8, but child seats seem to have gotten considerably bigger since the last time I bought one. So perhaps that's unrealistic per your previous comments.
My buddy had a base ATS 2.0T 6MT and liked it as a daily driver. The only reason he traded it in was to buy a truck to tow his racecars (93 Del Sol and 2010 128i).
Last edited by NotAPreppie; 08-22-2019 at 12:29 PM.
I went from an Rx8 as my daily driver to a lexus is350 fsport as I found an outstanding deal on one at my local porsche dealership. Anyways if you can live without a manual and since you will never go to the track you may consider one. It does not handle as well as the Rx8 but gets better gas millage and has more room in the back seat for the kids. It can be fun to drive on sport mode.
As it happens, I am looking for one to test drive. I am also looking at the Infiniti Q60. I had a G37S coupe for a while and liked it (except for the Nissan interior).
Originally Posted by TomD_Cincy
Here's an odd suggestion that I think checks most of your boxes...Kia Stinger. I've never driver one, but they are good looking cars (at least that's my opinion). Sadly it's slushbox only and weighs nearly 2 tons, so I have serious doubts it will be able to approach the dynamic experience of the RX-8. Though the V6 models do have 365 HP, so there's that.
Personally, I would have tried to find a child seat that fit in the RX-8, but child seats seem to have gotten considerably bigger since the last time I bought one. So perhaps that's unrealistic per your previous comments.
I have been looking sideways that the Stinger for a while now. On paper, I probably should not like it. And, it is a lot of money for a Kia--even used. I'd still like to drive one. I wish there was a manual option, however Kia's manuals have historically been pretty lousy.
It wasn't just the car seat any more than it was just the gas mileage or just anything else. It was the combination of many factors that led me to sell it. It also just felt like time to move on.
Originally Posted by bluetii
Genesis G70 also available with a manual with the 2.0t. Nice car
I have similar feelings about this car as I do toward the Stinger.
Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
Cadillac ATS-V?
My buddy had a base ATS 2.0T 6MT and liked it as a daily driver. The only reason he traded it in was to buy a truck to tow his racecars (93 Del Sol and 2010 128i).
GM is dead to me. My grandmother was one of the shareholders to be screwed in favor of the preferred shareholders in the bailouts right before she died. GM's parting gift to her was the knowledge that she had nothing to pass on to her children, after saving those shares for decades for just that purpose. GM could give me the world's undisputed coolest car in the world for free, and I would set it on fire for the cameras without ever driving it.
GM is dead to me. My grandmother was one of the shareholders to be screwed in favor of the preferred shareholders in the bailouts right before she died. GM's parting gift to her was the knowledge that she had nothing to pass on to her children, after saving those shares for decades for just that purpose. GM could give me the world's undisputed coolest car in the world for free, and I would set it on fire for the cameras without ever driving it.
Seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I understand exactly what you're feeling - that's why I spent so much time looking and settled on an RX-8 GT. All boxes checked and 2+2 seating configuration to boot.
Seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I understand this completely.
Especially when it hits close to home.
People don't stand on principles enough anymore.
I would never buy a Mitsubishi because of their WW2 atrocities and refusal to apologize.
Ford is another given Henry Ford's legacy.
I would never pay money for a new one.
Also I recently stumbled upon a nice 18K 2008 audi rs4 coupe. The reviews make it sound like a fun car. All wheel drive with 420hp and 6 speed manual. This looks to be better than the rx8 on all fronts but the weight.
I understand this completely.
Especially when it hits close to home.
People don't stand on principles enough anymore.
I would never buy a Mitsubishi because of their WW2 atrocities and refusal to apologize.
Ford is another given Henry Ford's legacy.
I would never pay money for a new one.
Eventually, you'll run out of manufacturers to buy from. At some point, you have to understand that nobody from the bygone eras you reference are still alive anymore.
Eventually, you'll run out of manufacturers to buy from. At some point, you have to understand that nobody from the bygone eras you reference are still alive anymore.
I mean there are Mitsubishi parts on the RX8... as well as Bosch, the famous forced labour employer but sometimes also resistance supporter of yore. Corporations aren't people with morals and long-term memories, they're just vehicles that people direct for good or for evil.
I understand this completely.
Especially when it hits close to home.
People don't stand on principles enough anymore.
I would never buy a Mitsubishi because of their WW2 atrocities and refusal to apologize.
Ford is another given Henry Ford's legacy.
I would never pay money for a new one.
Eventually, you'll run out of manufacturers to buy from. At some point, you have to understand that nobody from the bygone eras you reference are still alive anymore.
Mazda(Toyo Kogyo at the time) made rifles for the Japanese army in WW2, so...
In Steve's case, I can understand because it's a much more personal case. If you are nick picking about the history of the automotive industry, then I am sure you will find something to despite in every single one of them. Then you wouldn't be driving a car.
Seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Meh. Maybe. Whatever. IDGaF.
My grandparents were farmers in northern Oklahoma. My grandfather had a heart attack in his early 50s and was left disabled, and my grandmother, being the incredible woman she was, went to nursing school to teach herself to care for him at home. She then ran the farm alone, while being his nurse-maid for the next 20+ years. We were a GM family through and through, and she bought individual shares of GM stock one at a time over decades to build a legacy for their children--knowing the farm would be worthless (due to eminent domain and encroachment by Big Agriculture) by the time she died. After he died, she worked as the nursing floor manager at a local hospital while continuing to run the farm. When she became disabled, she kept those shares for decades longer. At the age of 96, the bailouts happened, and her shares were reduced to 1 penny per share in value. She saw the coverage on TV while at my uncle's house for Thanksgiving. And, she saw the wealthy preferred shareholders got a sweet deal. I was there and watched her weep for hours. She died 2 weeks later. True to her prediction, I bought what is left of the farm for less than $4000 and promised to keep it in the family, until all members of my mother's generation have passed. Eminent domain, thanks to Big Ag, took all but the 5 acres surrounding the (Sears and Roebuck) house and barn. I pay the taxes on the property and have it mowed, and probably will for the next 20 years. That 5 acres, house, barn, chicken coop, cistern, and piles of worthless GM paper are tangibles left behind. Fortunately, the intangibles are worth far more.
So, yeah. GM is dead to me. Nose. Face. WTF-ever. D.E.A.D.
Yum Soylent green - it's made of ___________. For you nerds out there here's the process flow diagram. To swing this back on topic - have you narrowed the choices?
Steve
I TOTALLY understand and I appreciate standing up for your convictions. My Grandpa was a GM man for 40 years.......along with his son.......my uncle.
My Grandpa ? He had a 1973 Arctic Cat Panther snowmobile. It had a ******* Rotary Engine !!!!! How cool is that. Google it. My Grandpa ran the Ypsilanti Bomber Plant in World War II. The most Incredible and efficient factory during the war.
Back to the rotary-----------he did it to me. Been rotary since 1981. My Grandpa passed away on January 1 2010. He was a GM shareholder. He got nothing. Along with my Uncle. Nothing. And we bailed those douchebags out !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I drive Ford for my work truck. I will NEVER buy GM. GM can kiss my ***.
I guess you missed the part about it being an awesome commute that begs for a sports car, or a touring car at least. That being the case, it is difficult to take the rest of your post seriously.
There are many reasons to trade cars. Better gas mileage is but one of them. It isn't the cost of gas so much as having to fill up literally every other day.
I'm sure I could find a booster seat that fits, but we have 3, and none fit properly. The current trend is wide boosters, and they don't fit. Certainly not to my wife's satisfaction.
There are certain aspects of the RX-8 I miss, but I do not find myself wanting another one.
The Mustang ticks some boxes, and it is a good car, just not a good car for me. They have definitely come a LONG way in just a few years.
The Maxima idea came from the car losing half its value inside 2 years. That means you can get a lot of performance for ~$20K in a low mileage package. It was worth checking out, although I'm still losing sleep over that interior. If the Mazda 6 still had a manual option, I would probably already have one in the garage. If I have to settle for an auto, it is still in the running.
However, I just test drove a 2016 BMW M235i... I think I'm at least in temporary lust. My impression was that it is 95% of an RX-8 with TORQUE. No rotary scream to be sure, but it has its own thing going on, and that thing is very groovy. Under $30K. Now to see if I can find one in near perfect condition...
08-16-2019, 01:31 PM
