What Should I Buy to Replace My RX-8?
07-30-2019, 05:01 PM
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07-30-2019, 05:13 PM
#28
Smoking turbo yay
Besides, the trunk space and the interior is far too small to be my only car. It just doesn't work for me for many reasons. I am tossing out suggestions to OP because life is too short to be only obssessed with one car or even one make.
That said, I will be on a trip to Japan, so I may have the opportunity to play around with a Miata if I can rent one. Miata's size also works in favour with the narrower streets there.
Also, don't shoot the messenger... I am not the one who comes up with these reps, but they exist.
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07-30-2019, 07:29 PM
#29
Water Foul
Thread Starter
Up to $40K for a late model used vehicle. But I want to spend as little as possible. I hate car payments.
Geez. Even teh ghey community loves that joke.
I'm not obsessed with one car or one make. I just happen to like what Mazda has always done with the RWD format. There aren't many companies doing light and nimble these days. And, thanks for throwing out ideas. They are all swimming in my head. I'm going to start test driving things soon.
Light and nimble does have a drawback, as you rightly point out. I too, live in truck and SUV hell and hate that I can't see anything and assume I will be squished like a but someday...
It actually is. I don't know about New York, but where I live, I am sick of pickup truck drivers. They already are dicks against my RX-8 and my friend's Mazda 6. I don't even want to imagine a Miata. Image just matters sometimes.
Besides, the trunk space and the interior is far too small to be my only car. It just doesn't work for me for many reasons. I am tossing out suggestions to OP because life is too short to be only obssessed with one car or even one make.
That said, I will be on a trip to Japan, so I may have the opportunity to play around with a Miata if I can rent one. Miata's size also works in favour with the narrower streets there.
Also, don't shoot the messenger... I am not the one who comes up with these reps, but they exist.
Besides, the trunk space and the interior is far too small to be my only car. It just doesn't work for me for many reasons. I am tossing out suggestions to OP because life is too short to be only obssessed with one car or even one make.
That said, I will be on a trip to Japan, so I may have the opportunity to play around with a Miata if I can rent one. Miata's size also works in favour with the narrower streets there.
Also, don't shoot the messenger... I am not the one who comes up with these reps, but they exist.
Light and nimble does have a drawback, as you rightly point out. I too, live in truck and SUV hell and hate that I can't see anything and assume I will be squished like a but someday...
07-30-2019, 07:57 PM
#30
Smoking turbo yay
I'm not obsessed with one car or one make. I just happen to like what Mazda has always done with the RWD format. There aren't many companies doing light and nimble these days. And, thanks for throwing out ideas. They are all swimming in my head. I'm going to start test driving things soon.
Light and nimble does have a drawback, as you rightly point out. I too, live in truck and SUV hell and hate that I can't see anything and assume I will be squished like a but someday...
Light and nimble does have a drawback, as you rightly point out. I too, live in truck and SUV hell and hate that I can't see anything and assume I will be squished like a but someday...
And yeah, test drives is the only way. I have read a book about making decisions called Blink, and one thing they mentioned is that having too many factors can actually hinder decision making. List your three biggest factors and go from there.
The drawback you mentioned applies to any sports cars(and pony cars as well, given Camaro and Challenger's already non-existent field of vision), but with a Miata, trucks(not so much SUVs; they just drive kinda slow) would probably bully you a lot more than if you are in a Mustang GT. Now I am not for road rage, but it is what it is. That, and Miata doesn't have back seats, so unless you already have a "mom car" then it wouldn't work for you, no?
07-31-2019, 10:15 AM
#32
c63 amg handles like a pig and can only be had with a slushbox.
e90/e92 M3 is the answer. Basically an upgrade to the rx8 in every way with similar character. 414HP 8300RPM N/A V8, with that builds power linearly. Excellent handling. Can be had with a manual or dual clutch transmission. Still has hydraulic steering.
The m2 sounds good on paper, but I'm no fan of the s55 engine. Sounds terrible, and that is the only engine you can get with it now. Also has electric steering. Granted the rx-8 hjas electric steering, but the rx-8's electric steering feels orders of magnitude better than any german implementation that I have driven.
e90/e92 M3 is the answer. Basically an upgrade to the rx8 in every way with similar character. 414HP 8300RPM N/A V8, with that builds power linearly. Excellent handling. Can be had with a manual or dual clutch transmission. Still has hydraulic steering.
The m2 sounds good on paper, but I'm no fan of the s55 engine. Sounds terrible, and that is the only engine you can get with it now. Also has electric steering. Granted the rx-8 hjas electric steering, but the rx-8's electric steering feels orders of magnitude better than any german implementation that I have driven.
07-31-2019, 10:15 PM
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The e90/e92 is an excellent car, but expect to replace the rod bearings as soon as you buy the car. It has been documented that BMW used improper clearances, leading to premature failure, a new spec has been published by a 3rd party tuner, but only time will tell if those specifications truly resolve the challenge. If the failure is still a concern with the new clearance spec, you can expect to replace rod bearings in the same frequency that an RX-8 might demand a new motor, every 100k miles. I still consider one once and awhile, but I enjoyed the inline six twin turbo from the 335, which (after many thousands in initial replacement parts with revised components -- HPFP, fuel injectors, water pump, thermostat housing, and turbochargers) are quite reliable. :D
07-31-2019, 10:19 PM
#34
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c63 amg handles like a pig and can only be had with a slushbox.
e90/e92 M3 is the answer. Basically an upgrade to the rx8 in every way with similar character. 414HP 8300RPM N/A V8, with that builds power linearly. Excellent handling. Can be had with a manual or dual clutch transmission. Still has hydraulic steering.
The m2 sounds good on paper, but I'm no fan of the s55 engine. Sounds terrible, and that is the only engine you can get with it now. Also has electric steering. Granted the rx-8 hjas electric steering, but the rx-8's electric steering feels orders of magnitude better than any german implementation that I have driven.
e90/e92 M3 is the answer. Basically an upgrade to the rx8 in every way with similar character. 414HP 8300RPM N/A V8, with that builds power linearly. Excellent handling. Can be had with a manual or dual clutch transmission. Still has hydraulic steering.
The m2 sounds good on paper, but I'm no fan of the s55 engine. Sounds terrible, and that is the only engine you can get with it now. Also has electric steering. Granted the rx-8 hjas electric steering, but the rx-8's electric steering feels orders of magnitude better than any german implementation that I have driven.
a big pig might be fun
07-31-2019, 10:56 PM
#35
Smoking turbo yay
IMO, if you want a V8, you may as well go American. That is the one thing America excels at, big V8s.
I am not a fan of LS swaps, but there is a reason many people do it.
They are bulletproof, and in case something goes wrong, it uses a lot of truck parts so you can find parts everywhere for cheap.
LS/LT is also fairly fuel efficient for what it is.
The only downside really is that an LS/LT can't rev all that high, but I personally welcome a departure from an RX-8. If anything, the low-end torque means it's much easier for daily driving and fuel efficiency(because you don't have to step on the gas heavily as much). 6600 RPM is also where a lot of econo I4 redlines, so the redline is also not really that low.
I guess another advantage of German cars is that their dealers are typically nicer than your average Ford or GM dealer, but you are also paying for that, and for a guy like me who does most of the maintenance and minor repairs on my own, I only talk to the parts department so that doesn't matter much.
I am not a fan of LS swaps, but there is a reason many people do it.
They are bulletproof, and in case something goes wrong, it uses a lot of truck parts so you can find parts everywhere for cheap.
LS/LT is also fairly fuel efficient for what it is.
The only downside really is that an LS/LT can't rev all that high, but I personally welcome a departure from an RX-8. If anything, the low-end torque means it's much easier for daily driving and fuel efficiency(because you don't have to step on the gas heavily as much). 6600 RPM is also where a lot of econo I4 redlines, so the redline is also not really that low.
I guess another advantage of German cars is that their dealers are typically nicer than your average Ford or GM dealer, but you are also paying for that, and for a guy like me who does most of the maintenance and minor repairs on my own, I only talk to the parts department so that doesn't matter much.
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08-01-2019, 09:22 AM
#38
Water Foul
Thread Starter
A local CarMax has one of these, and I test drove it yesterday on my way home from work. 2016 with low miles for $60K!!! Anyway, it was a hoot. A very front-heavy hoot. The rear end breaks loose with the lightest breath on the throttle with any steering input. (I think it had its original tires.) Insane torque. I could hear Jeremy Clarkson saying something like, "This is the worst mannered, most fun car... In. The. World." I wonder how much one of those things costs to maintain? Anyway, a nice one is way outside my budget.
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08-01-2019, 10:27 AM
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You got "In the world" wrong.
It should be:
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It should be:
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08-01-2019, 01:21 PM
#40
I know it's not what you're looking for, but when I went test driving cars to replace my RX-8 for commute duties ~3 years ago, a Mazda 3 with manual transmission ticked the boxes for fuel economy and child capacity, while still maintaining the feel, which I can best describe as feedback with a lightness of touch, that I like about the RX-8. Granted, it's not quick, and driven back to back with an RX-8 it is much less exciting, but taken in isolation there is satisfaction in the way it feels and the ability to approach the limit of grip without needing to go at speeds that would get me arrested.
Part of the reason this works for me is that track time, karting and sim-racing fulfill much of my need to drive fast, and I get more pleasure from being at the limit than the speed itself. Maybe this equation would change if there were better roads on my commute, but compared with the type of cars you are looking at now it leaves ~$20k in the bank to go spend on race cars and track time :-D
As a replacement commute car with more excitement, I'd at least test drive the current Civic type-r. I know you said you are not a hot hatch fan, and this is a pretty extreme example, but that car will be more economical and reliable than an RX-8 for daily driving while lapping faster than a fully track prepped RX-8 with little modification (I'm thinking some track pads and a proper alignment to maintain that speed and maybe an adjustable rear sway bar to dial out some understeer).
I've driven a rental mustang on occasion. I think I could be convinced if I took a test drive in a recent Manual GT with track pack, but see my earlier comments about saving money for a dedicated track car as well as concerns about handling limits that would get me arrested. I guess the same comments could be made about the CTR, practicality being the selling point for that one.
Stepping up to a Shelby GT350 would be sweet, but this gets into specialized territory again when it comes to maintenance and reliability.
If cost including maintenance were less of a concern for me (i.e. I wouldn't be trading track time for the daily), then a BMW M2, or a porsche 911 (997.2 or even a 991) would have plenty of appeal.
It's a shame there is no current mazdaspeed 3. Of course, an ND extended into a 2+2 hard top with a 2.5 turbo would be sweet, but I can understand that being unrealistic from a development costs point of view, and not having that platform shared allowed a lot of the weight savings in the ND.
Part of the reason this works for me is that track time, karting and sim-racing fulfill much of my need to drive fast, and I get more pleasure from being at the limit than the speed itself. Maybe this equation would change if there were better roads on my commute, but compared with the type of cars you are looking at now it leaves ~$20k in the bank to go spend on race cars and track time :-D
As a replacement commute car with more excitement, I'd at least test drive the current Civic type-r. I know you said you are not a hot hatch fan, and this is a pretty extreme example, but that car will be more economical and reliable than an RX-8 for daily driving while lapping faster than a fully track prepped RX-8 with little modification (I'm thinking some track pads and a proper alignment to maintain that speed and maybe an adjustable rear sway bar to dial out some understeer).
I've driven a rental mustang on occasion. I think I could be convinced if I took a test drive in a recent Manual GT with track pack, but see my earlier comments about saving money for a dedicated track car as well as concerns about handling limits that would get me arrested. I guess the same comments could be made about the CTR, practicality being the selling point for that one.
Stepping up to a Shelby GT350 would be sweet, but this gets into specialized territory again when it comes to maintenance and reliability.
If cost including maintenance were less of a concern for me (i.e. I wouldn't be trading track time for the daily), then a BMW M2, or a porsche 911 (997.2 or even a 991) would have plenty of appeal.
It's a shame there is no current mazdaspeed 3. Of course, an ND extended into a 2+2 hard top with a 2.5 turbo would be sweet, but I can understand that being unrealistic from a development costs point of view, and not having that platform shared allowed a lot of the weight savings in the ND.
08-01-2019, 04:34 PM
#41
Water Foul
Thread Starter
IMO, if you want a V8, you may as well go American. That is the one thing America excels at, big V8s.
I am not a fan of LS swaps, but there is a reason many people do it.
They are bulletproof, and in case something goes wrong, it uses a lot of truck parts so you can find parts everywhere for cheap.
LS/LT is also fairly fuel efficient for what it is.
The only downside really is that an LS/LT can't rev all that high, but I personally welcome a departure from an RX-8. If anything, the low-end torque means it's much easier for daily driving and fuel efficiency(because you don't have to step on the gas heavily as much). 6600 RPM is also where a lot of econo I4 redlines, so the redline is also not really that low.
I guess another advantage of German cars is that their dealers are typically nicer than your average Ford or GM dealer, but you are also paying for that, and for a guy like me who does most of the maintenance and minor repairs on my own, I only talk to the parts department so that doesn't matter much.
I am not a fan of LS swaps, but there is a reason many people do it.
They are bulletproof, and in case something goes wrong, it uses a lot of truck parts so you can find parts everywhere for cheap.
LS/LT is also fairly fuel efficient for what it is.
The only downside really is that an LS/LT can't rev all that high, but I personally welcome a departure from an RX-8. If anything, the low-end torque means it's much easier for daily driving and fuel efficiency(because you don't have to step on the gas heavily as much). 6600 RPM is also where a lot of econo I4 redlines, so the redline is also not really that low.
I guess another advantage of German cars is that their dealers are typically nicer than your average Ford or GM dealer, but you are also paying for that, and for a guy like me who does most of the maintenance and minor repairs on my own, I only talk to the parts department so that doesn't matter much.
I know it's not what you're looking for, but when I went test driving cars to replace my RX-8 for commute duties ~3 years ago, a Mazda 3 with manual transmission ticked the boxes for fuel economy and child capacity, while still maintaining the feel, which I can best describe as feedback with a lightness of touch, that I like about the RX-8. Granted, it's not quick, and driven back to back with an RX-8 it is much less exciting, but taken in isolation there is satisfaction in the way it feels and the ability to approach the limit of grip without needing to go at speeds that would get me arrested.
Part of the reason this works for me is that track time, karting and sim-racing fulfill much of my need to drive fast, and I get more pleasure from being at the limit than the speed itself. Maybe this equation would change if there were better roads on my commute, but compared with the type of cars you are looking at now it leaves ~$20k in the bank to go spend on race cars and track time :-D
As a replacement commute car with more excitement, I'd at least test drive the current Civic type-r. I know you said you are not a hot hatch fan, and this is a pretty extreme example, but that car will be more economical and reliable than an RX-8 for daily driving while lapping faster than a fully track prepped RX-8 with little modification (I'm thinking some track pads and a proper alignment to maintain that speed and maybe an adjustable rear sway bar to dial out some understeer).
I've driven a rental mustang on occasion. I think I could be convinced if I took a test drive in a recent Manual GT with track pack, but see my earlier comments about saving money for a dedicated track car as well as concerns about handling limits that would get me arrested. I guess the same comments could be made about the CTR, practicality being the selling point for that one.
Stepping up to a Shelby GT350 would be sweet, but this gets into specialized territory again when it comes to maintenance and reliability.
If cost including maintenance were less of a concern for me (i.e. I wouldn't be trading track time for the daily), then a BMW M2, or a porsche 911 (997.2 or even a 991) would have plenty of appeal.
It's a shame there is no current mazdaspeed 3. Of course, an ND extended into a 2+2 hard top with a 2.5 turbo would be sweet, but I can understand that being unrealistic from a development costs point of view, and not having that platform shared allowed a lot of the weight savings in the ND.
Part of the reason this works for me is that track time, karting and sim-racing fulfill much of my need to drive fast, and I get more pleasure from being at the limit than the speed itself. Maybe this equation would change if there were better roads on my commute, but compared with the type of cars you are looking at now it leaves ~$20k in the bank to go spend on race cars and track time :-D
As a replacement commute car with more excitement, I'd at least test drive the current Civic type-r. I know you said you are not a hot hatch fan, and this is a pretty extreme example, but that car will be more economical and reliable than an RX-8 for daily driving while lapping faster than a fully track prepped RX-8 with little modification (I'm thinking some track pads and a proper alignment to maintain that speed and maybe an adjustable rear sway bar to dial out some understeer).
I've driven a rental mustang on occasion. I think I could be convinced if I took a test drive in a recent Manual GT with track pack, but see my earlier comments about saving money for a dedicated track car as well as concerns about handling limits that would get me arrested. I guess the same comments could be made about the CTR, practicality being the selling point for that one.
Stepping up to a Shelby GT350 would be sweet, but this gets into specialized territory again when it comes to maintenance and reliability.
If cost including maintenance were less of a concern for me (i.e. I wouldn't be trading track time for the daily), then a BMW M2, or a porsche 911 (997.2 or even a 991) would have plenty of appeal.
It's a shame there is no current mazdaspeed 3. Of course, an ND extended into a 2+2 hard top with a 2.5 turbo would be sweet, but I can understand that being unrealistic from a development costs point of view, and not having that platform shared allowed a lot of the weight savings in the ND.
The Civic TR is just too damn ugly. It's fast and fun (I have instructed a couple), but I'm 46 and can't talk myself into driving something that ugly. I may try a Civic SI, but I must confess to seeing it as too much of a kid's car.
In BMW Land, I don't think I need to go all the way to an M2. An M240i might be enough to get me there. I plan to test drive one in the next couple of weeks.
Sadly, if I eliminate BMW and distill the problem, the only cars that perfectly tick my boxes are the Toybaru Twins and the upcoming (too expensive) Supra. Alas.
I get plenty of track time and already have 2 track prepared cars, so I'm not thinking of track-ability at all. Just something more fun than the average bland-mobile on the street.
08-01-2019, 05:08 PM
#42
Smoking turbo yay
The Mazda 3 is OK. It's sorta fun and sporty, but slow and expensive for what it is. If Mazda made the 6 in a coupe with a manual, it would be very attractive to me.
The Civic TR is just too damn ugly. It's fast and fun (I have instructed a couple), but I'm 46 and can't talk myself into driving something that ugly. I may try a Civic SI, but I must confess to seeing it as too much of a kid's car.
The Civic TR is just too damn ugly. It's fast and fun (I have instructed a couple), but I'm 46 and can't talk myself into driving something that ugly. I may try a Civic SI, but I must confess to seeing it as too much of a kid's car.
And for the record, I am a young guy and I also despise the Civic Type R(ice). Apparently, Honda knows that people are gonna rice their cars, so they already did all the work for you! Yeah, I know all the aero is functional, but it's way over the top with zero subtlety.
Si is okay, but in the power department, it's not much quicker than the 8. Just more fuel-efficient is all.
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08-01-2019, 06:49 PM
#43
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A local CarMax has one of these, and I test drove it yesterday on my way home from work. 2016 with low miles for $60K!!! Anyway, it was a hoot. A very front-heavy hoot. The rear end breaks loose with the lightest breath on the throttle with any steering input. (I think it had its original tires.) Insane torque. I could hear Jeremy Clarkson saying something like, "This is the worst mannered, most fun car... In. The. World." I wonder how much one of those things costs to maintain? Anyway, a nice one is way outside my budget.
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08-01-2019, 07:34 PM
#44
Water Foul
Thread Starter
Any other fun suggestions?
08-01-2019, 08:04 PM
#45
Water Foul
Thread Starter
Mazda doesn't have a 6 Coupe, but Honda has an Accord Coupe. It could be tricky to score one, but see if you can find a 9th Gen Honda Accord Coupe V6 with a 6-speed near you. Those are fun enough, powerful enough, budget-friendly, and is more fuel-efficient than a Mustang. I owned an 8th Gen Accord Coupe, and I actually got compliments from people and it doesn't look very much like a 10-year old car. The 9th Gen looks even better than 8th Gen IMO, and the rear seat space in those things is enormous(thanks to FWD). Insurance is also likely cheaper in an Accord Coupe versus a Mustang, and you are less likely to be harassed by cops in a Honda. If you are okay with FWD, you should give it a test drive and see how you like it.
And for the record, I am a young guy and I also despise the Civic Type R(ice). Apparently, Honda knows that people are gonna rice their cars, so they already did all the work for you! Yeah, I know all the aero is functional, but it's way over the top with zero subtlety.
Si is okay, but in the power department, it's not much quicker than the 8. Just more fuel-efficient is all.
And for the record, I am a young guy and I also despise the Civic Type R(ice). Apparently, Honda knows that people are gonna rice their cars, so they already did all the work for you! Yeah, I know all the aero is functional, but it's way over the top with zero subtlety.
Si is okay, but in the power department, it's not much quicker than the 8. Just more fuel-efficient is all.
Here is why:
I work for several different companies out of several different offices. This map shows the first half of my commute to some of those companies. It is comprised of high quality, twisty roads, with many elevation changes (hill country of sorts). Even the straight parts are fun. And, there are many different routes, should one want to take the long way home. It is hella fun to drive in a well-handling car, and at least some power is a huge bonus. (Texas has silly high speed limits too, so you don't even feel the need to speed.) My goal is to make that nearly as fun as it was in my RX-8, still be able to carry the booster seat, and make my wife feel it is safe enough for occasional kid duty. This is what I mean, when I say it is ironic that I just moved somewhere, where I can really enjoy the 8, and then sold it.
Anyhoo... Just for kicks, I searched CarMax for Accords with manual transmissions, and only got 6 hits nationwide. None are V6s. Autotrader has 1, but it is a 4 door. No 2 doors. I would have to be veeeeeeery patient, or buy new and special order it. I don't like to buy new.
08-12-2019, 12:40 PM
#46
Water Foul
Thread Starter
Test drive update:
2018 Mustang GT
This car was not quite what I expected. I have driven plenty of these, but always between 4000 and 7000 RPM. I was surprised by the lack of low end torque. I'm not sure why. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, after all. Otherwise, it was relatively comfortable and fun. The shifter felt crisp enough, but not Mazda good. It was a decent place to be, although the interior is typical of Ford's lower end finish--even with the leather trim option. The sound was great; nothing quite beats the V8 burble. But, I had little emotional response to it. At least not enough of one to cause me to want to take on a car payment.
2018 Nissan Maxima SR
Exterior styling has grown on me. It seemed to have enough torque, albeit with a CVT transmission. No manual option. Front wheel drive. Four door. All not good. Here's the deal breaker though: the interior is absolutely hideous. It looks like random puke from the alien love child of a hipster and Anime enthusiast. Just no. Not happening.
Still looking for the right Bimmer to check out.
Meanwhile, look what I found for my Miata:
https://kmiata.com/blogs/news/game-c...eid=879114c9d5
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2018 Mustang GT
This car was not quite what I expected. I have driven plenty of these, but always between 4000 and 7000 RPM. I was surprised by the lack of low end torque. I'm not sure why. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, after all. Otherwise, it was relatively comfortable and fun. The shifter felt crisp enough, but not Mazda good. It was a decent place to be, although the interior is typical of Ford's lower end finish--even with the leather trim option. The sound was great; nothing quite beats the V8 burble. But, I had little emotional response to it. At least not enough of one to cause me to want to take on a car payment.
2018 Nissan Maxima SR
Exterior styling has grown on me. It seemed to have enough torque, albeit with a CVT transmission. No manual option. Front wheel drive. Four door. All not good. Here's the deal breaker though: the interior is absolutely hideous. It looks like random puke from the alien love child of a hipster and Anime enthusiast. Just no. Not happening.
Still looking for the right Bimmer to check out.
Meanwhile, look what I found for my Miata:
https://kmiata.com/blogs/news/game-c...eid=879114c9d5
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Last edited by Steve Dallas; 08-12-2019 at 08:28 PM.
08-12-2019, 01:28 PM
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The Ecoboost Mustang makes more sense as a street car compared to the GT (The GT makes the best noises though). The torque is better, the chassis and driveline is the same, and unless your goals are north of 500whp, it is a cheaper, more economical, more efficient, and easier to drive in city way to have the Mustang experience. Stock they are a 13-14 second car but still quite quick, with tuning and bolt-ons they can drop into the high 12's, low 13's, and if you really feel froggy, a turbocharger upgrade will give you the means to cut 11's in the 1/4 mile and a 400+whp dyno ticket. All the while, you'll still get 25-30mpg compared to the GT's 15-18mpg and still be under a new GT's price point.
I like the GT and would love one, but the Ecoboost Mustang makes the most sense to me -- and when you start getting to a high-feature GT or Bullitt, you are already into the price point of low-mileage, used Z51 Corvette territory.
Maybe a new Mazda3 AWD?
I like the GT and would love one, but the Ecoboost Mustang makes the most sense to me -- and when you start getting to a high-feature GT or Bullitt, you are already into the price point of low-mileage, used Z51 Corvette territory.
Maybe a new Mazda3 AWD?
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08-12-2019, 03:19 PM
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Iv been checking this thread out and I feel I should make a suggestion as well.
How about you get another rx8. Lol
How about you get another rx8. Lol
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08-13-2019, 07:45 PM
#49
Smoking turbo yay
Test drive update:
2018 Mustang GT
This car was not quite what I expected. I have driven plenty of these, but always between 4000 and 7000 RPM. I was surprised by the lack of low end torque. I'm not sure why. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, after all. Otherwise, it was relatively comfortable and fun. The shifter felt crisp enough, but not Mazda good. It was a decent place to be, although the interior is typical of Ford's lower end finish--even with the leather trim option. The sound was great; nothing quite beats the V8 burble. But, I had little emotional response to it. At least not enough of one to cause me to want to take on a car payment.
2018 Nissan Maxima SR
Exterior styling has grown on me. It seemed to have enough torque, albeit with a CVT transmission. No manual option. Front wheel drive. Four door. All not good. Here's the deal breaker though: the interior is absolutely hideous. It looks like random puke from the alien love child of a hipster and Anime enthusiast. Just no. Not happening.
Still looking for the right Bimmer to check out.
Meanwhile, look what I found for my Miata:
https://kmiata.com/blogs/news/game-c...eid=879114c9d5
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2018 Mustang GT
This car was not quite what I expected. I have driven plenty of these, but always between 4000 and 7000 RPM. I was surprised by the lack of low end torque. I'm not sure why. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, after all. Otherwise, it was relatively comfortable and fun. The shifter felt crisp enough, but not Mazda good. It was a decent place to be, although the interior is typical of Ford's lower end finish--even with the leather trim option. The sound was great; nothing quite beats the V8 burble. But, I had little emotional response to it. At least not enough of one to cause me to want to take on a car payment.
2018 Nissan Maxima SR
Exterior styling has grown on me. It seemed to have enough torque, albeit with a CVT transmission. No manual option. Front wheel drive. Four door. All not good. Here's the deal breaker though: the interior is absolutely hideous. It looks like random puke from the alien love child of a hipster and Anime enthusiast. Just no. Not happening.
Still looking for the right Bimmer to check out.
Meanwhile, look what I found for my Miata:
https://kmiata.com/blogs/news/game-c...eid=879114c9d5
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Nissan interiors have always been kinda crappy, so no surprises here.