DARKMAZ8

So your problem is solved. Buy the 8 and get aftermarket FI. Most FD's upgraded anyways to aftermarket so what's the difference. When your trying to make a car appeal to a wide range of demographic, adding a turbo would be loved by some but not by all. Plus Mazda is no where near making a profit yet on the rotary. It doesn't make economical sense for Mazda to produce a mass market turbo car. Ppl will always up the boost and not tune. This will result in a warrenty nightmare. Again your comparing a piston to a rotary.

BlueEyes

What is going on? I never said they should produce a turbo car, nor do I want them too. I clearly said the should produce an aftermarket turbo, or at least design it and sell the rights to it. You know, since they can do it in an afternoon.

DARKMAZ8

I just don't think mazda wants to take responsibility if a sudden boost spike occurs and then boom. Obviously, Mazda would have to guarentee these kits. What happens if someone buys this kit and then buys an aftermarket exhaust? This would unintentionally up the boost. The rotary engine needs constent tunning after every mod to run right if turboed.

TODreamer

Well in your post you said an SRT4 is just a Neon and so on and so forth......

I think Ike responded that way because internally, an SRT4 and a Neon, or a WRX and an STI are very different.. they are not the same.

However I see what you're saying.....they look the "same" on the outside and thus to the "general" public they ARE the "same"... SRT4 to the avg joe will always be nothing more than a Neon and this would be a factor to the many people who actually care what others think of their ride...

Ike apparently does not care....

Just a difference in opinion i suppose

guy321

I am inclined to disagree!

BlueEyes

Your preaching to the choir here. I was just making a comment about Cas' thought that anyone can slap a turbo in a car and call it a day. It's simply not the case, and you're just reenforcing that notion. I am really not trying to justify mazda's involvement. I couldn't care less what they do

TODreamer

ok thats nice

BlueEyes

I will agree with you TOD. I think it just suprises some people that a "car enthusiast" could be about as smart as the average joe when it comes to a car.

DARKMAZ8

I don't know why you bother arguing with cas. You and I both know he knows his ****.

guy321

no it isnt!

moRotorMotor

Ok, I got an announcement to make!... BREATHE EVERYONE!!! :D That is all.

raji

Everyone done breathing yet?

Ok, now let's get back to our pointless bickering.

DARKMAZ8

This statement goes against everything else you just said. :p

Chrisbert

What is this ban wagon? It seems to pass by here a lot.

300+HP in a FWD car; make sure you have hold of the steering wheel tightly when you mat it!

rodrigo67

I think the reason most people give so little respect to Evo's, Sti's and Srt4are because of what they were, not what they are.

Let's face it, you can buy a civic and mod the crap out of it and it can give you awesome numbers ( the vid of the civic beating a viper comes to mind). Upgraded suspension, drivetrain, engine, wheels, tires, exhaust system, turbo, intercooler, and computer system. All upgrades to a basic car. What these companies did was put on all the after market mods that you would have put on, before they sold it too you. Thats why they get no respect. Awesome performance numbers but little respect.

The Iroc Z was still a modded camero, the cobra is still a modded mustang, and a SRT4 is a fast bastard but it IS...still a neon.

Ike, I know you can mod Sti's and Evo's to be faster but I was talking about stock from the dealer, right out of the box.

rotten42

The SRT already has problems with torque steer...it should be worse.

...and I don't care how fast it goes, its still a neon. A cheap built car for a masses.

Brice-RX8

Could not agree more.

moRotorMotor

I can see how it would be nearly uncontrolable from a dead stop, given the torque steer, but what about with a street start? Would it blow the doors off of most sports cars?

fizzer

After watching some SRTs in action at an autocross, I will never buy a turbocharged FWD car (not like I really was planning on it anyway).

I srts from stock to modded 300+ hp on the track, and while it was funny to watch thier fronts go up in smoke on every corner exit, I felt sorry for them. My RAW times were faster than all the SRTs, and when the class-leveling PAX handicap was applied... i destroyed them in my stock 8. LONG LIVE THE 8

Also saw some STis and EVOs in action... while better than the SRTs, they still understeered too much, though i imagine with some suspension tweaks and/or ACD settings, they could be set up to handle pretty well in autox.

You still have to give props to mopar for giving a bunch of young drivers access to cheap speed.... wonder what the insurace rates on those bad boys are

Mugatu

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If I'm gonna spend $25000 on a car, and my #1 concern is speed, I'd rather get a last years' base model 350Z with no options than a FRIGGIN NEON.

Besides the turboed engine...it's a Neon. The outside? Looks like a neon. Inside? Yep, looks like a cheap *** Neon (unless you consider the 'luxury' upgrades like a new shift ****...woohoo).

Seriously - at the end of the day, it's a Neon. Plain and simple.

Tirminyl

This thread is so pointless that I thought I should post in it.

Everyone has a difference in taste, there are many views on this topic. Not everyone likes the SRT4, EVO, STI, or RX8. People have different wants and needs when buying a car. So get over it!

buzzardsluck

my rental car right now is a neon . this thread reminds me of that guys sig. on here that compares arguing on the internet to the special olympics

i have to write in apa format all the time BUT this board, so excuse my not caring about grammar

khtm

I was cutting up a lime last night to put in my Corona, and I accidentally squirted some lime juice in my eye.

Owww!! That hurt!!!

khtm

Mugatu

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