Spiders lead to Mazda recall Now with Honda and PETA too!!
#1
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Spiders lead to Mazda recall Now with Honda and PETA too!!
"Maybe they just like cars that go 'Zoom-Zoom," he said. "We honestly don't know."
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/03/auto...oogle_business
http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/03/auto...oogle_business
#3
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not really - its actually pretty common... with propane stoves/ grills. certain spider types are attracted to the smell and the size of the tube of the venturis.
they spin a really tight web or even lay up their egg sac in there and it blocks or partially blocks the flow of the propane. You go to start your grill and you either get nothing or poof you get a fire by the controls.
So this will be the same thing. this type of spider has found the size of the tube to be perfect for it to set up house and likes the smell of the fuel. perhaps over a couple generations the spiders have learned to identify the smell as "home" instinctively. other cars probably already have some sort of spring/tension-er to seal the opening. The 4 cyl 6 didnt so thats the one the spider finds its way in to.
i wonder what the geographic range of this particular spider is....
they spin a really tight web or even lay up their egg sac in there and it blocks or partially blocks the flow of the propane. You go to start your grill and you either get nothing or poof you get a fire by the controls.
So this will be the same thing. this type of spider has found the size of the tube to be perfect for it to set up house and likes the smell of the fuel. perhaps over a couple generations the spiders have learned to identify the smell as "home" instinctively. other cars probably already have some sort of spring/tension-er to seal the opening. The 4 cyl 6 didnt so thats the one the spider finds its way in to.
i wonder what the geographic range of this particular spider is....
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Cheiracanthium is mainly an Old World genus, with many species found from northern Europe to Japan, from Southern Africa to India and Australia. The only species to occur in the New World are C. inclusum and C. mildei. While the former also occurs in Africa and Réunion, the latter is found in the Holarctic region and Argentina.[2]
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hmm that's a weird recall.
but this reminds me of something. my 8 used to have spider infestation too lol. from time to time I see mini spiders crawl around. since I never afraid of spiders (I actually killed one thats about the size of my hand with my slippers when I was like 8 yrs old, **** was nasty). so I usually just squash it with bare hands then just wipe it off. those spiders are really tiny and looks kinda like the ones in the picture.
and I found webs behind various of places, like behind the trim cover for the side mirror, behind the front fender near the body frame, etc ...
but after about 2 years of killing, I don't see them anymore.
cold weather killed them all maybe? dunno.
but this reminds me of something. my 8 used to have spider infestation too lol. from time to time I see mini spiders crawl around. since I never afraid of spiders (I actually killed one thats about the size of my hand with my slippers when I was like 8 yrs old, **** was nasty). so I usually just squash it with bare hands then just wipe it off. those spiders are really tiny and looks kinda like the ones in the picture.
and I found webs behind various of places, like behind the trim cover for the side mirror, behind the front fender near the body frame, etc ...
but after about 2 years of killing, I don't see them anymore.
cold weather killed them all maybe? dunno.
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so i was off a bit. more research shows me that C. Inclusum is actually fairly wide spread in the US. But the dont seem to be prevalent in Michigan and they like the outdoors more than inside, staying out unless its cold or there is a food shortage. so its likely they are getting in either at the part supplier or after the car is built and delivered out.
Last edited by zoom44; 03-03-2011 at 12:00 PM.
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hmm that's a weird recall.
but this reminds me of something. my 8 used to have spider infestation too lol. from time to time I see mini spiders crawl around. since I never afraid of spiders (I actually killed one thats about the size of my hand with my slippers when I was like 8 yrs old, **** was nasty). so I usually just squash it with bare hands then just wipe it off. those spiders are really tiny and looks kinda like the ones in the picture.
and I found webs behind various of places, like behind the trim cover for the side mirror, behind the front fender near the body frame, etc ...
but after about 2 years of killing, I don't see them anymore.
cold weather killed them all maybe? dunno.
but this reminds me of something. my 8 used to have spider infestation too lol. from time to time I see mini spiders crawl around. since I never afraid of spiders (I actually killed one thats about the size of my hand with my slippers when I was like 8 yrs old, **** was nasty). so I usually just squash it with bare hands then just wipe it off. those spiders are really tiny and looks kinda like the ones in the picture.
and I found webs behind various of places, like behind the trim cover for the side mirror, behind the front fender near the body frame, etc ...
but after about 2 years of killing, I don't see them anymore.
cold weather killed them all maybe? dunno.
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Tis a little funny, but can turn out to be serious, MNAO have had one case, so it just goes to show how good Mazda are...they usually don't muck around when it comes to safety...in this case they are saying possible fire.
It's even on leading News on the NBC Today show feed this morning here in Oz.(friday)..
The Fix..Recall 6211B..
Requires a Mazda sold Brush p/n MAZ6BRUSH which is pushed down the unassembled Vent Tube (Next To Gas Filler), if spider webs are found on brush end the Tube and Gas Tank are renewed, Use gas tank kit (GSYL-42-100).
If no webs a "spring" is placed in top of Vent Tube/Hose to prevent spider from entering.
Apparently this (Spider's/web) can cause a CEL DTC, requiring a PCM reprogramming procedure.
It applies to all Flat Rock made Mazda 6 including those sold in Mexico.
Year Range (2009-2010) Model (Mazda 6 2.5l) Build Date Range (From April 8, 2008 through to February 8, 2010).
It's even on leading News on the NBC Today show feed this morning here in Oz.(friday)..
The Fix..Recall 6211B..
Requires a Mazda sold Brush p/n MAZ6BRUSH which is pushed down the unassembled Vent Tube (Next To Gas Filler), if spider webs are found on brush end the Tube and Gas Tank are renewed, Use gas tank kit (GSYL-42-100).
If no webs a "spring" is placed in top of Vent Tube/Hose to prevent spider from entering.
Apparently this (Spider's/web) can cause a CEL DTC, requiring a PCM reprogramming procedure.
It applies to all Flat Rock made Mazda 6 including those sold in Mexico.
Year Range (2009-2010) Model (Mazda 6 2.5l) Build Date Range (From April 8, 2008 through to February 8, 2010).
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Thats pretty great of Mazda to fix something like this as a recall. It sounds like they could just say its not their problem. Its not like a part failed at all, nobody thinks to design parts to keep spiders out.
#19
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perhaps this confirms the whole "there's a spider infestation of Hiroshoma" theory. I've had a "dead" spider living in my rear tail light for years... as do quite a few others. I never got it classed but wouldn't be surprised if it's the same variety.
Last edited by ShellDude; 03-04-2011 at 06:37 PM.
#20
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I used to live at a place like that.
Solution was : 3 different brands of those roach fog.
Day 1, Brand 1 , Fog it, twice the recommended strength (if they tell you to use one, use two)
Day 2, clean up, wipe some dead roach away
Day 3, Brand 2, Fog it,
Day 4, clean more dead roaches
Day 5, Brand 3, Fog it,
Day 6, clean a few more
Day 7-10 leave the freaking house don't even bother to live there. Open all windows to let the stuff go away.
and I killed all of them, never seen another one.
That place's roach problem was so fuxking bad that once you turn the lights out, wait for 15 minutes, pop it on and you see them all over the kitchen and ****. Nasty as crap.
and NO, I don't want to help any landlord to get rid of their pest problem
#23
Huge hole is huge
I used to live at a place like that.
Solution was : 3 different brands of those roach fog.
Day 1, Brand 1 , Fog it, twice the recommended strength (if they tell you to use one, use two)
Day 2, clean up, wipe some dead roach away
Day 3, Brand 2, Fog it,
Day 4, clean more dead roaches
Day 5, Brand 3, Fog it,
Day 6, clean a few more
Day 7-10 leave the freaking house don't even bother to live there. Open all windows to let the stuff go away.
and I killed all of them, never seen another one.
That place's roach problem was so fuxking bad that once you turn the lights out, wait for 15 minutes, pop it on and you see them all over the kitchen and ****. Nasty as crap.
and NO, I don't want to help any landlord to get rid of their pest problem
I would spray down the length of the wall, and about 50-100 roaches would fall out (no, I'm not exaggerating.) I told them to **** themselves and never took the place.
#24
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2008 and 2009 Honda Accords are also apparently experiencing a Yellow Sac spider infestation
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...,1858029.story
Honda has issued a TSB for fixes but not a recall yet.
PETA is reaching out to effected Mazda owners
http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/a...-problems.aspx
Yeah PETA. Let me donate my car to you because the possibility exists that it MIGHT have a small spider in it. I tend not to kill spiders- when we find them int he house i am dispatched to capture and release them outside- but who the f? would get rid of a car because of 1 spider or one mouse?
Someone should give them a roach infested car and see how long their no kill policy lasts....
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...,1858029.story
Honda has issued a TSB for fixes but not a recall yet.
PETA is reaching out to effected Mazda owners
Attention, Mazda owners: There's this MX-2 Spider version, and then there's the spiders who are thought to be living in some of the 65,000 Mazda6s that were recalled last week because a certain gas-loving arachnid likes to build webs in the cars' emission systems. The presence of the spiders can cause gas leaks and fires. And here's something that you may not know: If you're suffering from arachnophobia, PETA will be more than happy to help you out … by accepting your donated vehicle for use in animal rescue work! A PETA member who was deathly afraid of mice once donated her brand-new Jeep to PETA after a mouse popped out from beneath the glove box. PETA gladly accepted both the Jeep and the mouse and will do the same for your Mazda6. And for the spiders who call it home, we'll also do our best to get them out safely and find them new homes.
Yeah PETA. Let me donate my car to you because the possibility exists that it MIGHT have a small spider in it. I tend not to kill spiders- when we find them int he house i am dispatched to capture and release them outside- but who the f? would get rid of a car because of 1 spider or one mouse?
Someone should give them a roach infested car and see how long their no kill policy lasts....
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FFS, this is getting out of hand.
Stupid PETA.
although, anyone who IS stupid enough to donate their car because of one spider should probably just drive their car off a cliff and save us all the trouble. I'm sure the spider will survive the plunge.
Stupid PETA.
although, anyone who IS stupid enough to donate their car because of one spider should probably just drive their car off a cliff and save us all the trouble. I'm sure the spider will survive the plunge.