Tirminyl

^I would think with the redesign it would come with that power bump but for 08 I don't believe it will, though I think it will be more than 315. I haven't followed Nissans new models closely.

Also, this is the typical thread when the topic mentions X car gets a power bump. No one can appreciate x car without ripping it apart and claiming love for theirs when no one was bashing their car to begin with.

sosonic

Well from the picture, thats a better looking "face" on the 350Z. If they actually come out with that front end, than they will be helping themselves. Still think it looks tankish ( just a little less so with that front end ) and it being only a 2 seater does not help me.

But, I do respect Nissan for working on the engine, getting the HP up and up, and making changes that will appeal to customers. Something Mazda, should be doing. I mean really, new CD changer and colors, is not what I think most RX-8 customers want. Mazda needs more Mazdaspeed products and upgrades for the RX-8 and of course more HP. Mazda has a kick *** car that just needs a little extra. The demand seems to be there, but Mazda does understand its customers? Maybe its because it buried or burned all those customer surveys, that there is a lack of understanding or communication problem.

SayNoToPistons

iTrader: (8)

13b-RE from the cosmo and 13brew formt he FD. two different things my man. i suggest doing some research about them.

saturn

At the risk of getting flamed by the "thou shalt not reference sales numbers" crowd my guess is that the ever lowering sales numbers aren't exactly encouraging Mazda to put more and more money into development for the 8. The 3 and 6 are where they are clearly spending time and money on and the Kabura seems to be the bees knees among the automotive world so they're likely putting time and effort into making that happen sooner rather than later.

The Z is Nissan's halo car and they're putting time and money into it to keep it current and interesting. For better of for worse, Mazda is just a different car company with a different way of looking at things. I'm not sure our incessant pleas really resonate with Mazda when they're thinking long term.

playdoh43

actually it seems hes right and youre wrong. you should be the one suggesting your self to do some research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_W...engine#13B-REW

13B-REW

A twin-turbocharged version of the 13B, the 13B-REW, became famous for its high output and low weight. The twin Hitachi HT-12 turbos were operated sequentially, with the primary providing boost until 4,500 RPM, and the secondary coming online afterwards. Output eventually reached, and may have exceeded, Japan's "maximum" of 280 hp (208 kW) for the final revision used in the series 8 Mazda RX-7.

Applications:

* 1990-1995 Eunos Cosmo, 235 hp (176 kW)
* 1992-1995 Mazda RX-7, 255 hp (190 kW)
* 1996-1998 Mazda RX-7, 265 hp (197 kW)
* 1999-2002 Mazda RX-7, 280 hp (208 kW)

camaro194

I love fanbois.

SayNoToPistons

iTrader: (8)

Im still going to stick with what i said. 13b-re is different form the 13brew.

camaro194

I dont really care for the 08 redesign. Heck, I dont even like what they are doing with the 07's:

Renesis_8

That hood is so ugly.
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Redhotman cam

SayNoToPistons

iTrader: (8)

13B-REW 1993-2002 FD3S

13B-RE 1990-95 Cosmo

20B Cosmo

13BT 1986-91 FC3S

a lil on a 13b-re in a 13b-rew FD (swap)

"The Cosmo 13B-RE is a cross between the 2nd gen RX-7 (FC 13b TII) and 3rd gen RX-7 (FD 13b-rew) motors. The Cosmo 13b-re had mounts on the intermediate plate where the 3rd Gen 13B-REW motor has motor mounts bolting through the oil pan and into the rear rotor housing.

The Cosmo 13b-re intake manifolds have ports are around 30% larger then the FD 13b-rew, but restrictor plates in the exhaust make the exhaust port smaller. The Cosmo turbos are smaller (Hitachi HT10 versus HT12) due to all of them being Automatic vehicles. So the cosmo motor will have less Hp (230 compared to 255).

Exhaust bolt up is supposed to be identical to the 13b-rew
Tranny will bolt up the same as an Automatic motor 13BT-REW.

The 13b-rew has 3 x 50mm butterflies (2 x secondary and 1 x primary)
The 13b-re has 2 x 45 (secondary runners) and 1 x 50mm (primary)."

saturn

The Z looks like a bloated cow in pictures, but in person it looks teh sexy. Don't exactly know what it is. If anything they need to get into the world of sharper lines rather than it's somewhat bulbous roundness that it sports now. I would hope they go in that direction for the next generation model.

camaro194

Agreed. Most cars are this way though. I didnt really care for the looks of the 8 based on the initial photos, but once I saw it in person, a totally different story. I kinda like the shape and proportions that the Z currently has. I'm not sure what a few harder lines would do to the looks.

playdoh43

i dont think thats the 08 redesign

Tirminyl

It's not. He mentioned its the 07.

tjbourgoyne

Bad comparison the 8 and the Z that's why I refrain from it. The two people in my backseat also agree along with the mechanic.

saturn

Ok, so let me get this striaght. You start off making fun of people who drive around by themselves and then immediately following that you talk about how you are bullied by your obviously cooler friend into driving your car BY YOURSELF more than likely so your friend can kick some game to a lady friend.

Nice one.

dillsrotary

HA, awesome.


hey you notice some think you have to bash the 350z to fit in here when it's actually the complete opposite?

Feras

iTrader: (1)

i think people have been in my back seats a total of 10-12 times in the nearly 3 years ive had this car...calling the 8 an ample 4 seater is a little laughable sometimes.

CarAndDriver

I wouldnt use the word ample, but it does fit four if the smaller people sit in back and people scoot the seats up.

Its better than the tiny little child seats found in some other 2+2 sports cars.

camaro194

Very true. The 8 has a better backseat than something like a Camaro/Firebird/Mustang. Sure, theres no luxery sedan legroom back there, but its pretty good for a sports car.

no dice

this is probably a repost, but skyline for 2008 is confirmed.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/10/13/...iz2/index.html

sosonic

I expect the skyline to be a big hit in the U.S. It a bigger Japanese car, with a big engine, and a bigger reputation (that is well deserved).

Raptor2k

Eighty-five big ones?

..........Z06.

playdoh43

um... autoweek says 60k, motortrend says 70k, blah blah blah says 85k, all just speculation before it comes out. its still a year+ away....

this is the 350Z thread, heres the GT-R thread
https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/new-skyline-gt-r-caught-100765/