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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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I still dont get why these two cars are compared. Generally speaking, the demographic of each car's target market is different...

How do you go from 4 to 2 seats and a 10G bump up? or similarly, If your looking for a 2 seater vert performance car and the S2k is in your budget why would you look at an RX8? Yeah these cars are similar in some respects but from a consumer stand point I see them as more different than anything else
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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...I searched around for this and didn't find anything. Can you provide more info?
How about I just tell you that I owned a '65 and then a '66 corvair (neither were spyders, darn). I scared the heck out of many people, in the way I could handle those cars better than they thought a car like that could handle. The Corvair had a major chassis/body change starting '65. The Nader thing was concerning the earlier model, from what I've been told. It was all just a political thing, which he accomplished long after the car was fixed.

Oh, and btw, if you want a stook, get one! I wish I could afford both, but for practicality, the 8 was first. Maybe I'll snag me a stook some way some day...
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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since you have a beater, id go with s2000 over the rx8. Otherwise it depends on how hardcore you are and how much comfort are you willing to sacrafice for better performance.
s2000 is a highly regarded car no matter what forum you are on. Easily outcorners the RX8 and if launched correctly it can even give a 350z a run for its money on the straight line.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Man, this thread is tailor-made for Ike The RX-8 Basher who says he's only here to "speak the truth"
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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But, Ike has a cool disco-dancing banana avatar though. <LOL>
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Hey the S2K does NOT come with TCS. We've got an 05 and I know for a fact it doesn't.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by StewC625
Man, this thread is tailor-made for Ike The RX-8 Basher who says he's only here to "speak the truth"
Great Stew, now show me one time in this entire thread where I bashed the RX-8.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Why do people feel threatened, on a personal level, if somebody points out where another car may be faster/better/whatever in different contexts?

I can say without hesitation an STI would out-perform my RX8 in every measurable test with the right driver. Does that mean I'm an rx8 hata? Does that mean I am 'trashing' the rx8?

The Rx8 is what it is...Reasonably Attractive/stylish...Handles Reasonably well...Goes straight Reasonably quick...seats four in Reasonable comfort.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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And as for that BMI video, I honestly have to question the honesty in BMI's test drivers. They acted as if the RX8 was the worst handling car this side of a Pontiac Grand-Am. All I have to say is..which car is winning in real life races?
http://rotarynews.com/node/view/706
http://rotarynews.com/node/view/704 - (Not an RX8, but use Renesis motors)
http://rotarynews.com/node/view/690
http://rotarynews.com/node/view/685 - (Didn't win, but took fastest lap and pole)
http://rotarynews.com/node/view/684
Sorry bud, you're not driving the race car around the streets.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Good post, dmp
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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So it's the Reasonablex-8. I can dig it.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Why do people feel threatened, on a personal level, if somebody points out where another car may be faster/better/whatever in different contexts?

I can say without hesitation an STI would out-perform my RX8 in every measurable test with the right driver. Does that mean I'm an rx8 hata? Does that mean I am 'trashing' the rx8?

The Rx8 is what it is...Reasonably Attractive/stylish...Handles Reasonably well...Goes straight Reasonably quick...seats four in Reasonable comfort.

you shouldn't hafta justify your purchase to anyone but yourself.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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i was also got down to both of those cars it just came down to 2 things the rx8 car was more fun to drive and s2k was not built for a 6 foot, 225 pound guy kinda tight in that thing
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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well at cal speed way i raced a stock s2k when i was stock we both ran 14.5 i was at 96mph he was at 97 mph so both car are very close the rx8 gets off the line better but the s2k got a little more on top both cars u have to lunch at 6000k plus
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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oh yeah the reason why this cars r compared is because claim hp is close 238 rx8 240 s2k tq is close also 159 for rx8 150 s2k both wieght from 2700 to 2900 both r rwd both have 6 speed, both cars r from japan and both dont cost that much off of each other with the s2k being a little more
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by toca
oh yeah the reason why this cars r compared is because claim hp is close 238 rx8 240 s2k tq is close also 159 for rx8 150 s2k both wieght from 2700 to 2900 both r rwd both have 6 speed, both cars r from japan and both dont cost that much off of each other with the s2k being a little more

except stock 2.2L S2000s have a SOLID 30 more wheel HP than RX8s.

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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
except stock 2.2L S2000s have a SOLID 30 more wheel HP than RX8s.
How would you know that?
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by shaolin
Hey the S2K does NOT come with TCS. We've got an 05 and I know for a fact it doesn't.
It's new in the '06 S2000.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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124... u seem educated... as do others... isn't the 2007 S2K going to be completely redesigned??? If so I would have a hard time buying one now...
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wiggum
124... u seem educated... as do others... isn't the 2007 S2K going to be completely redesigned??? If so I would have a hard time buying one now...
There has been talk of it being discontinued, haven't heard much about a redesign.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Why do people feel threatened, on a personal level, if somebody points out where another car may be faster/better/whatever in different contexts?

I can say without hesitation an STI would out-perform my RX8 in every measurable test with the right driver. Does that mean I'm an rx8 hata? Does that mean I am 'trashing' the rx8?

The Rx8 is what it is...Reasonably Attractive/stylish...Handles Reasonably well...Goes straight Reasonably quick...seats four in Reasonable comfort.

Because those people arent secure in their purchase/decision
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Ah, that would be a shame, Ike. I think a lot of them. Shades of when I bought a '73 Fiat 124 sport spider right off the showroom floor. Why? Because I was single and it was a two seater convertible sports car. It suited my needs as well as my wants. Now, I'm going empty nest and the Stook looks very attractive to me.

btw, y'all know that it's affectionately called the "Stook" in some circles, cuz Stook is how S2K sounds, like if it was on a license plate? ("sss.two.kkk")
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wiggum
124... u seem educated... as do others... isn't the 2007 S2K going to be completely redesigned??? If so I would have a hard time buying one now...
Owning an RX-8 and an S2000, I have a modicum of interest in both cars. Each year since it was introduced, the S2000 has been rumored to be on the chopping block at Honda. One of these years, those rumors will be correct, but it's not because those starting the rumor know anything. They usually heard it from the Honda salesman trying to convince them that this is the last year of production, so they'd better grab one while they can.

Similarly, we have no idea when there will be a revamped S2000. Lord knows, it's due, but Honda doesn't make any money from the S2000, and seems uninclined to keep it up with its nominal competition, specifically the Boxster; the base Boxster now is clearly superior to the new S2000 (of course, it costs 50% more, so it should be).

The S2000 was introduced in late 1999, as a 2000 model year car, for the 50th anniversary of Honda. It was little changed until the 2004 model year, when they stroked the engine, making it more powerful, with more torque (and a flatter torque curve), but with an 8k redline instead of a 9k redline. By the same pattern, one might expect a significantly revamped S2000 in 2008. But it's all conjecture, not based on any actual knowledge.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer X-8
Ah, that would be a shame, Ike. I think a lot of them. Shades of when I bought a '73 Fiat 124 sport spider right off the showroom floor. Why? Because I was single and it was a two seater convertible sports car. It suited my needs as well as my wants. Now, I'm going empty nest and the Stook looks very attractive to me.
Wow, that's familiar. My first car was a well-used '69 Fiat 124 Spider, with which I fell very much in love (when it would start, at least). I had to stop driving roadsters when child #3 was on the way, but when the four-seat convertible I bought in 1989 kind of died in 2004, and we were within sight of being empty-nesters, it was time for the S2000. And it's a wonderful, wonderful car.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by toca
well at cal speed way i raced a stock s2k when i was stock we both ran 14.5 i was at 96mph he was at 97 mph so both car are very close the rx8 gets off the line better but the s2k got a little more on top both cars u have to lunch at 6000k plus


I am guessing that you are a very good driver and the S2000 dude is not... It is hard to imagine that the RX8 takes-off better than the honda. If launched properly, the honda can run neck-and-neck with the 350Z.
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