zoom44

yeah thats production for europe.

However as I mentioned a year ago or so Mark Rechtin of Automotive news says the mx-5 chassis was re-worked for the 2010 model year in part to meet new US rear offset collision requirements coming in 2011. The 2010 RX-8 had rear bumper changes as well so they must believe they are going forward in the states at least for the 2011 MY or they wouldn't have done it.

bhop

Not surprised this is just the usual.... Now we wait and see what the future holds just like with any other car.

Anijo

Other articles specify that this is Europe only and 2011 MY will still be going to other continents: http://wot.motortrend.com/6633208/au...ons/index.html

Still, the '09 '10 have sold so poorly this is hardly a surprise.

zoom44

J. is Jeremy Barnes of course.

Jedi54

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when's J going to grace us with his presence again on the forums?
only this time, lets not have the servers crash when he shows up.

Spin9k

A couple interesting thoughts about the Euro-5 and Euro-6 standards, if I've got the numbers right(?).

1) It appears for gas powered cars coming from a Euro-4 standard (2005), the Euro-5 (2009) and Euro-6 (2014) standards are identical, only greatly affecting diesel vehicles (except SUVs and 4 wheelers get 3 yrs extra)

2) But neither of the new standards hold a candle to upcoming CA+10 other states standards for cars for NOx.

..............PM......NOx mg/km
Euro-4....na......80
Euro-5.....5.......70
Euro-6.....5.......70
CA...........6.......40

If Mazda's having touble with the NOx in Europe going from 80-->70 mg/km, what will they do to meet the drastically tighter US regs going to 40 mg/km? ..or maybe it's the particulate matter (PM) being newly regulated from our sooty cars that's the bigger problem???

Spin9k

It would really seem that Mazda **has** to do something to clean up the basic dirty nature of the rotary **intrinsically** rather than figuring a way to clean it up after the fact with CATs. Not only would that help solve the emissions problem, but the gas use and power/heat problems as well. If only they could....

Vyndictive

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Direct Injection? A more combustible pre-mix lubricant that burns cleaner?

Or that 90hp or whatever the hydrogen powered rx8 is. I forget nearly everything about that car, but I think it was duel fuel and could run regular fuel also?

TALAN7

RX sums up the 8 and Mazda's philosophy regarding it:
ROTARY EXPERIMENT!
I don't want a rotary experiment anymore, I want a rotary supercar. The name RXsays it all...an experiment...and we all know ho many experiments work out. I have know doubts that if
honda dedicated itself to the rotary we wouldn't have experimental cars but awesome rotary powered sports cars. You think if BMW was making a rotary we would have these problems?

TALAN7

Or maybe they just realized that the rotary is not that viable in a mass produced vehicle.

mysql101

MX-5 uses it, so it's not going to waste.

Lebren

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and we wait....

Galen Darkmoon

Just makes our 8's soooo much more special.

Grungepup

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..... ok so this article doesn't really say anything we didn't already know....

with all of the stupid articles about the rx7 and rx9 coming, this one ranks right up there.

we know that the EU market is killing off the 8 but nothing official has come from Mazda about the US market, until then I don't believe anything these mags are saying

shadycrew31

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Ehh 6 years is a good run time. I wouldn't be shocked if they killed it off.

kersh4w

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http://www.themotorreport.com.au/501...by-2013-report

another article saying its europe only.

ZumnRx8

"consists of two triangular rotors" .... I thought they were hex shaped ....

ZumnRx8

Personally I think Mazda is stupid for never advertising the vehicle.... Can't sell a car if you never seen it advertised... My local dealer doesn't even carry an 8 in it's lot... And when they have it'd be about 1 or 2 low end models... Galpin Mazda usually carries 2 or 3 on a good day. More rx8s are bught used because they are actually advertised. Mazda killed the 8 ... I'm sure they advertised the 7 when it had came out. Whenever I tell someone I have an rx8 they respond "mazda makes an rx8?" or "I thought it's called an rx7?"

but after all my bitching i'm glad I have a unique rare wb

1stgen8

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Yes....I used to own a 545I and that POS had all kinda of problems before and after the warranty ran out. I have several friends that currently own BMW's and they are constantly at the dealership.

shadycrew31

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If BMW made a rotary it would have a million more sensors and 30 pulleys.

ASH8

RX-8 Production has not ceased.

SamiRX-8

The next RX-8 is tentatively due to go on sale next year, although the firm would need to be sure the new rotary engine powering it met the stricter EuroVI emission regulations, which come into force in 2014.

Development of this new rotary engine is underway at Mazda and it was due to be launched at last year’s Tokyo motor show. However, engineers are struggling to reduce the weight of the unit in addition to improving fuel consumption, emissions and boosting mid-range torque. Mazda wants to reduce the weight of all its cars by 100kg within five years; as it stands, the next RX-8 wouldn’t meet this target.

As said, if they develop an engine to meet EURO V, still they will have to make much greater deal to match it to EURO VI when it comes. In ordinary, Germany, Europe, you will have only to pay bigger taxes for the cars that are below EURO IV or V now. If you drive an Ford Escort, and the RX-8, taxes are aprox. 300€ a year for Escort, and mabe 30€ a year for the RX-8, that is what the prices were about 2 years ago.

Still, they are stopping the sales, but that doesn't mean that you can't buy an used RX-8 and have fun.

Here where I live, there are maybe thee RX-8 in the whole country (4 million people), and true, Mazda RX-8 was never advertised here, and not even presented in the car lot of authorized Mazda dealers. My country doesn't have these norm restrictions, and you could drive an RX-8 even if it had minus Euro V norm. Unfortunately, people here drive BMW's and Audi's, and they never heard of this car. Half the country drives VW Golf's from Mk1 to MkVI, and they don't know crap about cars.

California has bigger emission restrictions than Europe and it's Euro V, and they still sell that car.

And yes, BMW has good engineers and award winning motors, but I think they couldn't build a perfect Wankel engine to comply with these norms, nor them, nor Mercedes which was trying in the past, nor anyone else except Mazda in my opinion. People in Europe trust in German cars, but we say here something like this; "What German invents, Japan takes it and makes it better", and that was the case with a Wankel engine