rotarygod

E85 returns worse mileage not better.

SPHINX144

if people are concerned about MPGs, they most likely cannot possibly afford this car if it ever came into production. It's a super car, most super cars give around 5-10 mpgs when driven hard.

rotarygod

No one is actually speaking seriously about mpg although I am probably not far off! This car will never become a reality anyways.

zoom44

not when using the right (high enough) compression

zoom44

you've read this paper on ethanol Im sure fred

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/presentation...-isaf-no55.pdf

and this

http://papers.sae.org/1999-01-3568


I suspect this will be an enlightening read when it comes available

http://papers.sae.org/2010-01-2154

stinksause

iTrader: (5)

is over 12 compression even possible on 13B sourced set-up ... I mean the Renesis rotors already have barely any tub when compared to the earlier rotors

I mean what would be the compression if the tub would be eliminated completely?

zoom44

yes it is using LDR

do a google search for pratt and whitney enduro-core (or without the hyphen) and AVL range extender

Rotr8

iTrader: (2)

what strikes my curiosity is what might come out of this once Ferrari sees this, we all know they love to protect thier intellectual property, I mean if they sue for a sill little badge http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/14/m...ng-horse-back/ I wonder what they'll do once they see something that clearly rips off thier pride and joy mucking around in a with a 6 figure price tag.

olddragger

iTrader: (3)

who would buy something that butt ugly?
Love the sound of a 4 rotor but come on......
OD

T-von

I just lost all respect for Ferrari. That is complete nonsense. I would understand the lawsuit if the Limo was built to be sold as a Ferrari. This guy only built it for his own personal use. Ferrari need to get over themselves.

Rotr8

iTrader: (2)

get overthemselves, as what one of the most prestigeous race bred car companies ever? ha.

Razz1

Actually they are using the new sky rotory running on Diesel.

It gets 6 MPG easily in Turbo mode. 8 MPG City/10MPG HWY

HomicidalApple

iTrader: (3)

wow... i want!

mike1324a

While I would love nothing more than to drive something with 4 rotors and turbos, I’m going to say this will never see the light of day. I remember a few years ago there was an individual who was putting up ongoing CAD drawings of his rotary supercar in various different iterations. That looked promising but it disappeared. I would love to have one, and I’ll be the first to say I was wrong if it does arrive but it simply won’t happen. Also, I don’t even know why there is even a debate on the picture. That is a photoshopped 599xx. They slightly edited the lights, added turn signals in the side grills and filled in the rear window where Ferrari has the buttress. This isn’t even a good photoshop either. At least the guy from years ago had his design and legitimately engineering it with AutoCAD. This is nothing more than a rotary heads wet dream.

DocBeech

iTrader: (1)

I love the gauge cluster..

ArXate

Leave it to the Germans. But even the Germans can't do what the Chinese did in the movie 2012: build 7 giant ships in 3 years up a mountain 20,000 feet above sea level. Did you hear the rumor that the arks in the movie were powered by rotary engines?

jasonrxeight

that car looks like a Ferrari 599

bulletproof21

your kidding me?

rotarygod

Yep read them. Ethanol is inferior when it comes to economy. The last one is probably going to show how turbocharged engines can get more power with ethanol due to the higher octane rating and so forth and so on. It will do it at the expense of mileage though and will consume more fuel but yes I'm sure it will make good power.

Then again you still believe that hydrogen is a good and viable fuel yet it is by FAR the worst choice of any available fuel options!

The downside to gasoline is that it is a dirty fuel from the standpoint that it leaves buildup inside an engine and intake. It's not metered oil that leaves carbon. It's gasoline. This is where the alcohols and gaseous fuels such as hydrogen, propane, and natural gas have the real advantage. Every fuel has it's tradeoff but gasoline and diesel fuel are the 2 most economical when it comes to power vs mileage.

stinksause

iTrader: (5)

It's all about power density ... I don't have the exact figures handy, but if you look up the energy released by burning a given amount of gasoline, diesel, hydrogen, ethanol, propane etc, you will see what RG is talking about

DocBeech

iTrader: (1)

ethanol is bad for your apex seals... so eff that noise.

T-von

That's the thing! They need to stick to BUILDING those prestigious race bred cars and not policing the consumer and telling them what they can't do with their purchase. I don't care that is complete nonsense.

jasonrxeight

why would I kid you?
if they were gonna make a car that looks like a 599, my not make something different and unique.

bulletproof21

^ no, I said that because you and about 15 posts before you said the same thing. Yes, we know it looks like a 599.

Roidz

IF this thing ever came to production, that would be awesome to see it run the 'ring and be successful.