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Official 2016 ND Mazda MX-5 Miata audio teaser and reveal date.
September 3rd, 2014
That is most definitely a force induction engine paired with a DCT or Mazda's SkyActiv-Drive AT. Not kidding about "revolution". I wonder how the purists will take this. I suppose Mazda had to do something to up the ante with the indirect competition (BRZ/FRS). |
The powertrain that was on display showed a manual trans, so that is most likely an option too.
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Got to see that display model in person at the NYIAS. That was a 2.0 SkyActiv-G NA similar to the engine in the CX-5 and Mazda3. Hopefully the turbo'd variant of the ND MX-5 Miata won't be the Fiat/Alfa turbo 4.
A bit of speculation on the video: http://jalopnik.com/the-2016-mazda-m...ged-1599646738 |
im glad the are doing the reveal right = coinciding with the miatas at mazda raceway event. wish i had the time to go
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Can't wait to see it. How the update the looks so it is a touch more aggressive looking.
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The speculation on the audio clip all over the place is hilarious. Namely, there is no evidence that the audio clip is even from a Miata at all. Yeah, the marketing department would be retarded if they did that, but then, it wouldn't be the first time that they made really poor decisions.
Then there are the comments about the "impossibility" of turbocharging the SkyG engine, due to compression ratios, which is nothing more than stuck-in-a-rut-with-blinders-on thinking. Mazda keeps doing things that conventional "wisdom" says is impossible. Sure there are challenges, but hardly ones that are impossible for a team of nutty Mazda engineers to overcome. And there is the likelyhood that if there is a turbocharged Miata from the factory, it will likely be an option and not the base engine available. Or if they are all turbocharged, it could be a turboed 1.3L, the Fiat engine? Or even a Mazda variant that would still struggle to hit 150hp. etc... Just because an unknown audio clip has sounds from an unknown car that might have forced induction implications, doesn't mean it is suddenly a powerful fast sports car. Now that it's actually on it's way, it's best just to wait and see. |
Very good looking roadster. Looking forward to seeing how a PRHT looks.
-Front end turned out better than previous Kodo renderings -Awesome tail lights blending the modern linear style with traditional -Don't see any stupid chrome so far Disappointed the ugly antenna is still there. Side view on the video looks chubbier than stills lead me to believe? Not sure how realistic 2200 lbs is, usually vehicles gain weight in successive generations citing "federal standards." |
Front looks great, can't say the same for the rear but it's growing on me.
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Oh, I want one. Wish it would come with a rotary, but I still want one. One of the more sophisticated designs from Mazda in quite some time. If they use this design language on a 2-door rotary coupe (I can't bring myself to say "RX-7") it would be amazing.
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4-bolt lugs will be a challenge
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I love how it looks. Best one yet.
Originally Posted by User24
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Not sure how realistic 2200 lbs is, usually vehicles gain weight in successive generations citing "federal standards."
Originally Posted by lucifuge
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4-bolt lugs will be a challenge
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Mazda Motorsports added 13 new photos. 7 hrs · Here it is, the 2016 Mazda MX-5. Before you ask, we are not releasing specs at this time. BUT we will confirm that it will be 100 kg under the current model. #LessIsMore 2480lbs - 220lbs = 2260lbs. :fruit: |
Originally Posted by RIWWP
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Not for those of us that already have 4 sets of 4x100 wheels. :) Same bolt pattern as the 1990-2005.
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3 of my sets are 15", the other is 16", RPF1s.
Keep in mind that it is also clearly the Grant Touring trim level, with leather, heated seats, the center pop up display, etc... Every single other car Mazda sells that has a GT trim has upsized wheels, and I think all of them upsize 2 inches. I would bet that a base no-frills trim level will have 15s. I suspect that the hubs are even the same hubs on my wife's Mazda2, which fits all my 15" wheels without issue. The only question that might make 15s not fit is brake size, but with 220lbs knocked off, I'm betting the brakes are in-line with the sport brakes of the 2001-2005 Miatas (which I have on mine) |
Originally Posted by RIWWP
(Post 4626160)
3 of my sets are 15", the other is 16", RPF1s.
Keep in mind that it is also clearly the Grant Touring trim level, with leather, heated seats, the center pop up display, etc... Every single other car Mazda sells that has a GT trim has upsized wheels, and I think all of them upsize 2 inches. I would bet that a base no-frills trim level will have 15s. I suspect that the hubs are even the same hubs on my wife's Mazda2, which fits all my 15" wheels without issue. The only question that might make 15s not fit is brake size, but with 220lbs knocked off, I'm betting the brakes are in-line with the sport brakes of the 2001-2005 Miatas (which I have on mine) I'm sure you are correct that the brake size will be optimized for the car to keep it light. For me personally, who is autocross-afflicted, I'm already wondering if I can get 17x8s, or 8.5s, or even 9s (perhaps overkill for such a light car). 17x7s Enkies seem available enough, but I'd want more wheel than that for competing in STR. Assuming the car sells well (and I'm sure it will) the aftermarket will respond, I'm sure. |
I should take some pics of mine with 15s vs 16s. The 15s have more sidewall of course, but to me, it's hard to actually tell the difference visually. They both seem to just barely clear the calipers.
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Please excuse the crap rush PS job....but the rumor of a fastback hardtop has me intrigued. Couldn't help but visualize the Z4 Zagato's roof on there.....
http://i61.tinypic.com/hsreck.jpg |
This is with 17s, so 15s may not fit around the calipers.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...f5699ec052e0ed |
Originally Posted by aprtur
(Post 4626173)
Please excuse the crap rush PS job....but the rumor of a fastback hardtop has me intrigued. Couldn't help but visualize the Z4 Zagato's roof on there.....
http://i61.tinypic.com/hsreck.jpg |
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A much better reveal in Japan, here: Skip to ~19:40. Not subtitled, but a whole lot of better angles.
7,500rpm redline that is higher than any other SkyG engines right now, and I'm hoping that it isn't just a performance tuned 1.5L under the power limited Japanese regulations. 7,500rpm from the current 2.0L would suggest a peak power number of around 170-180, depending on intake and exhaust tuning shifting the current torque curve rightwards on the graph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayfsGWYjsxw#t=18 The WWP one in the background has my attentive eye too.... :fruit: |
This is a better coupe photoshop:
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...40&oe=5474C237 |
After looking at at the little men getting in/out of the new car I can tell, it's too small for me.
Nice looking though. |
2016 Mazda Miata First Drive Report! (Sort of.) ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog
From the guy that drove it out onto the stage in the US: “They knocked it out of the park on ergonomics,” said the six-foot-one Miller. “It has that sports-car feel.” https://i.ytimg.com/vi/D-pJCLcradI/hqdefault.jpg |
I just saw this car today and it looks amazing. This really could give a BMW Z4 a good run for it's money.
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one of the firs things i noticed about the car as it rolled out was that "valley" or scallop as Derek Jenkins called it that runs sort of diagonally between the door handle and the rear fender. that's one of the most brilliant and visually appealing( to my eye) sculpts on a normal production car ever.
also i cant see this car from front to back. what i mean is , even when looking the front 3/4 shots my eye is drawn to the back first then follows the lines to the front. the sculpting of the hood and front fenders is amazing. i'm still trying to understand how they managed that hood with that swoop to the nose under the regulations for ped. safety etc. |
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see it there on the white fender? first mod for the white cars- white/clear lenses https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1409856629 really like that low 3/4 view |
I'm really liking the direction they are taking the MX line.
the lines have a bit of F type and Z4 in them but with the usual Mazda flare. (that hood line and fenders are sexy) can't wait to see it in show rooms too bad I still won't fit in one. |
oh and they brought people on stage from the audience to sit in it. :) the guy was afraid to open the door :)
Originally Posted by RIWWP
(Post 4626186)
A much better reveal in Japan, here: Skip to ~19:40. Not subtitled, but a whole lot of better angles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayfsGWYjsxw#t=18 |
Zoom, did you notice the interior, upper edge of the doors? Look around the interior door handles. I love how it brings the body color in like that. I wonder if they have done anything tricky with the markers like that. Like the lens are all clear, and it's actually just letting the base body color come through, with some clever LED placement to still light up how it needs to.
Which brings up the point that I like that ALL lightning in the new one is LED. At least in Japan. I sincerely hope that the US regulations don't block that. |
This is, by far, the best looking Miata/MX-5 they have designed. The lines are crisp and sharp but yet flowing. It should prove to be as classic as the FD.
It's amazing that the hood is that low without having a rotary engine under it. We can only imagine and hope, right? |
Oh man that is one sexy car, I may have to let go of my 8, abandon my hopes of a new rotary and buy myself one of these when they come out.
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why photoshop it AFTER it's been revealed? ROFL
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Not feeling the headlights. They will probably grow on me and look better in person.
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Originally Posted by lucifuge
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why photoshop it AFTER it's been revealed? ROFL
It's a beautiful car for sure. A friend of mine and I agree that it reminds us of an S2000. |
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better looking than the S200. Te top looks small
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It's rather humorous, and slightly annoying, the various drama over this car on the actual Miata forums.
Mazda-speed.com: Most like it Miataturbo.net: Virtually all like it, passive disinterest is the worst Miata.net: 50/50, with those that dislike it hate it with a passion. The ones that like it, just moderately like it Clubroadster.net: Haven't learned that there is a new generation yet One of the more ... vocal comments on Miata.net so far: I am angry. Really angry. I hold my tongue about most designs because I am not the target market, but this car, I AM THE TARGET MARKET. The worst part is knowing that every time I see one of these things I will see a great opportunity lost. Gone. Over. The car has wonderful overall proportions, and that's what makes the designer's crime all the more vile. Sick. Awful. They destroyed it for no other reason than to stroking their own egos. In the end they'll know they failed. The car isn't great, and it could have been. It'll go down as just a footnote to the NA. This small, tight, pure little machine should not be infected, festooned or decorated with the trite, weakass nonsense crap of some clueless egotistical designer or design boss. One of the forum members once asked why all cars can't be beautiful. Well here's the reason. HUMAN NATURE. They can't help getting their egos involved. They want to put their fingerprints on it, "sign it", graffiti-ize it. Oh and they did. I can think of a few other phrases and words that describe what they did but are not fit for this forum. A beautiful design requires restraint, maturity and discipline on the part of the designer. An Aston V8 Vantage, a E46 M3, a Cord 810 all from the heart. All pure. How quickly stupidity and ego can turn an E-type into a Daimler Dart. The only reason I am not screaming "moron!" to the people that say they like the car is because I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. I think that what they are seeing are the great overall proportions and not the detail warts and tortured surfaces from the design team. I can't live with those. I will not buy one. EVER. Beauty is subjective, sure but ... http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.co...hmentid=144476 Someone also made this gif: :lol: http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment...ine=1409799270 |
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I can see the RX-8 front and rear in the car.
Worst thing is that 8" diameter Mazda logo. They got to get rid of that. |
sp pearl... what doesnt he like about it?
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Apparently, he is a designer for Ford (the latest Explorer is his work), and he has several pages of rants like that, but never actually specifies what it is he doesn't like about it.
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The headlights are awful so maybe he is referring to them?
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No, no one could get out of him what he is referring to. Apparently every line on the car was "10mm off from being good". Or something.
The amount of passionate dislike for it by 1990-1997 owners is moderately hilarious. He takes it over the top by having a childish breakdown that he feels is supported by the fact that he does vehicle design for a living. "It's his profession, so he must know what he is talking about." :lol: |
It is common the last several years to dislike anything that is updated. The Evo community hated the Evo X. Subaru community hated the updated STi. Corvette owners bitched about the C6 and C7. Many in the Mustang community do not like the upcoming Mustang. Rotary community hated the RX8.
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
(Post 4626798)
The headlights are awful so maybe he is referring to them?
But I agree that the headlamps are the weakest styling element of the exterior. Not fond of the "epicanthic fold" styling and the little "tear duct" appendage. |
Some powertrain shots. There appears to be a lot of room on the intake side... Perhaps a roots supercharger would fit nicely in there.
2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata first engine shot revealed - Autoblog |
Will the Alfa Romeo version be available in the US?
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Originally Posted by pdxhak
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Will the Alfa Romeo version be available in the US?
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