Official 2010 Formula 1 Season Discussion
Yep I couldnt agree with you more.
but jokes aside, this is his second year . last season he came at the end of the season. His up and downs are remind of me Vets first year. Also If vet can be on a top tier class car ( i mean the guy is all over the place still) then I think Kobo has a good chance to drive for a good team. I think next year will be the year that determines if he can or not, if he keeps doing what he is doing now, I think he has a high chance in 2012 and beyond. But lets just hope the world doesnt end in 2012 :P
but jokes aside, this is his second year . last season he came at the end of the season. His up and downs are remind of me Vets first year. Also If vet can be on a top tier class car ( i mean the guy is all over the place still) then I think Kobo has a good chance to drive for a good team. I think next year will be the year that determines if he can or not, if he keeps doing what he is doing now, I think he has a high chance in 2012 and beyond. But lets just hope the world doesnt end in 2012 :P
I don't like Vettel. He's a jackass. Alonso may whine a lot but at least he doesn't drive into the side of everyone he tries to pass.
You make some good points about KK. Hopefully they keep him around next year as he's fun to watch!
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Lol, I think Rosberg is doing a good job. He hasn't screwed up too much this year at all from what I recall. Kubica is putting in one hell of a show with the Renault as well.
I don't like Vettel. He's a jackass. Alonso may whine a lot but at least he doesn't drive into the side of everyone he tries to pass.
You make some good points about KK. Hopefully they keep him around next year as he's fun to watch!
I don't like Vettel. He's a jackass. Alonso may whine a lot but at least he doesn't drive into the side of everyone he tries to pass.
You make some good points about KK. Hopefully they keep him around next year as he's fun to watch!
Personally I think Brawn racing is going to do extemely well next year. I never was a MS fan, but since they will be making a car from scratch, I think that they will be a strong team next year. I think a lot of people are thinking that this year is what Brawn team and MS can only offer. I think this year was is just a testing phase for them.
actually with nico i think he is a excellent driver. just wanted to pick on your driver and all lol.
Personally I think Brawn racing is going to do extemely well next year. I never was a MS fan, but since they will be making a car from scratch, I think that they will be a strong team next year. I think a lot of people are thinking that this year is what Brawn team and MS can only offer. I think this year was is just a testing phase for them.
Personally I think Brawn racing is going to do extemely well next year. I never was a MS fan, but since they will be making a car from scratch, I think that they will be a strong team next year. I think a lot of people are thinking that this year is what Brawn team and MS can only offer. I think this year was is just a testing phase for them.
Brawn needed more than Schumacher to pull off what he did at Ferrari. He doesn't have that now, and to make matters even worse he has a bunch of boardmembers at Mercedes that I doubt are as forgiving as the ones at Ferrari. Ferrari is Formula 1. They live it and breathe it. That is not the case at Mercedes.
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I don't think they will. I think he got lucky last season and it won't happen again. Mercedes is going to be just like Toyota and Honda in that they'll dump a bunch of money, get nothing, and then leave. If I'm wrong I'll gladly eat my words, but I really doubt I will be.
Brawn needed more than Schumacher to pull off what he did at Ferrari. He doesn't have that now, and to make matters even worse he has a bunch of boardmembers at Mercedes that I doubt are as forgiving as the ones at Ferrari. Ferrari is Formula 1. They live it and breathe it. That is not the case at Mercedes.
Brawn needed more than Schumacher to pull off what he did at Ferrari. He doesn't have that now, and to make matters even worse he has a bunch of boardmembers at Mercedes that I doubt are as forgiving as the ones at Ferrari. Ferrari is Formula 1. They live it and breathe it. That is not the case at Mercedes.
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Korean Grand Prix gets FIA go-ahead
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The Korean Grand Prix will take place later this month after the FIA gave the circuit a green light on Tuesday following two days of safety inspections.
Although the event has been surrounded by speculation for weeks that the venue would not be finished in time for the October 24 race, FIA race director Charlie Whiting was happy with the progress that had been made.
Although the event has been surrounded by speculation for weeks that the venue would not be finished in time for the October 24 race, FIA race director Charlie Whiting was happy with the progress that had been made.
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http://www.leemckenzie.tv/gallery.asp She was the BBC host of this past GP because Jake Humphrey was away. She is normally behind the scenes, interviewing all of the GP drivers if they had an off, or running up and down the pit lane getting news from teams about any developing stories.
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Vet almost jump started
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spectator's video depicts pole sitter and Suzuka winner Sebastian Vettel almost jumping the start of Sunday's Japanese grand prix.
The footage, shot from the main grandstand opposite the pit buildings, shows the German's Red Bull making a slight forwards movement just before the five red lights went out.
The footage, with the incident located at 4:28 in the video above, also depicts Vettel's engine note dipping slightly as his RB6 lurched forwards.
It is likely he was not penalised for the brief clutch release because Vettel's car was apparently once again stationary by the time the lights did go out.
The 23-year-old admitted his "good start" from pole at Suzuka "was the key" to victory over his teammate and championship leader Mark Webber on Sunday.
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The footage, shot from the main grandstand opposite the pit buildings, shows the German's Red Bull making a slight forwards movement just before the five red lights went out.
The footage, with the incident located at 4:28 in the video above, also depicts Vettel's engine note dipping slightly as his RB6 lurched forwards.
It is likely he was not penalised for the brief clutch release because Vettel's car was apparently once again stationary by the time the lights did go out.
The 23-year-old admitted his "good start" from pole at Suzuka "was the key" to victory over his teammate and championship leader Mark Webber on Sunday.
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Panasonic might sponsor Kobo. I really hope this rumor is true, Kobo needs backing.
Panasonic could return to formula one in support of Japanese rookie driver Kamui Kobayashi, according to the latest rumour.
After eight years as a major title sponsor, the Osaka-based Panasonic Corporation withdrew from the sport along with Toyota at the end of last season.
But at the time of Toyota's decision, Panasonic had already committed as the Cologne based team's title sponsor until the end of 2012, indicating that the popular multinational electronics brand is still interested in formula one.
According to the rumour, Panasonic officials met with Sauber and Kobayashi after Sunday's Japanese grand prix, where the 24-year-old driver stirred the local crowd with his audacious overtaking moves.
Kobayashi came through the formative racing ranks, including European F3 and GP2, with Panasonic-sponsored Toyota's full backing, culminating in his formula one debut late last season.
Sauber executive Monisha Kaltenborn said after Suzuka that she hoped Kobayashi's form inspired Japan's backing, despite the country's ongoing economic difficulties.
The young driver said at the same event that he was aware of his importance to the future of F1 in Japan.
"That's why I promote the sport," said Kobayashi. "I'm not looking for sponsors as it's still a tough environment."
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After eight years as a major title sponsor, the Osaka-based Panasonic Corporation withdrew from the sport along with Toyota at the end of last season.
But at the time of Toyota's decision, Panasonic had already committed as the Cologne based team's title sponsor until the end of 2012, indicating that the popular multinational electronics brand is still interested in formula one.
According to the rumour, Panasonic officials met with Sauber and Kobayashi after Sunday's Japanese grand prix, where the 24-year-old driver stirred the local crowd with his audacious overtaking moves.
Kobayashi came through the formative racing ranks, including European F3 and GP2, with Panasonic-sponsored Toyota's full backing, culminating in his formula one debut late last season.
Sauber executive Monisha Kaltenborn said after Suzuka that she hoped Kobayashi's form inspired Japan's backing, despite the country's ongoing economic difficulties.
The young driver said at the same event that he was aware of his importance to the future of F1 in Japan.
"That's why I promote the sport," said Kobayashi. "I'm not looking for sponsors as it's still a tough environment."
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.....and boring......... Their only good races are the ones on road corses. HOWEVER, I caught the beginning of one IRL race at some oval...tire pressures were low at the start and they were bottoming out in the corners....you should have seen all the sparks!! I was like the fourth of July, and with the race being started in the late afternoon...it was pretty damn cool. Short of that...it was pretty much a snooze fest
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Massa dominate the last few races, and f team orders and win. GO OUT GIVING FERRARI A MIDDLE FINGER SALUTE 
fernando alonso has urged felipe massa to up his game in support of his three-race charge for the 2010 world championship.
Spaniard alonso said in japan last weekend that the full backing of his ferrari teammate won't make "a big difference" to his chances so long as he is on the pace and securing strong results.
"having the teammate close, or not close, is not a big difference if you do well," he had said.
But now equal on points with sebastian vettel and 14 behind the leader mark webber with three races to go, alonso has revealed he thinks next weekend's korean grand prix could be "decisive for some" of the remaining challengers.
"and for me it will be important also to be able to count on my teammate felipe," said alonso in tokyo, according to ferrari's official website.
Massa has had a string of disappointing results recently, amid rising pressure from his team leadership to perform strongly in support of alonso's title bid.
Added alonso: "i know that he will be really hoping to make up for two negative results and he has all the capacities required to return to the podium.
"what's more, it will be very useful to work together to discover all the secrets of the new track so we can prepare our cars in the best way. In a moment like this every detail matters to achieve our goals," he said.
Meanwhile, a brazilian journalist close to massa has scolded sections of the media for speculating that the 29-year-old will be ousted by ferrari at the end of the season.
"it takes a lot to shock me, but when you hear in the media that ferrari are replacing him with robert kubica, kamui kobayashi and adrian sutil, it makes me angry," wrote livio oricchio in o estado de s.paulo.
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Spaniard alonso said in japan last weekend that the full backing of his ferrari teammate won't make "a big difference" to his chances so long as he is on the pace and securing strong results.
"having the teammate close, or not close, is not a big difference if you do well," he had said.
But now equal on points with sebastian vettel and 14 behind the leader mark webber with three races to go, alonso has revealed he thinks next weekend's korean grand prix could be "decisive for some" of the remaining challengers.
"and for me it will be important also to be able to count on my teammate felipe," said alonso in tokyo, according to ferrari's official website.
Massa has had a string of disappointing results recently, amid rising pressure from his team leadership to perform strongly in support of alonso's title bid.
Added alonso: "i know that he will be really hoping to make up for two negative results and he has all the capacities required to return to the podium.
"what's more, it will be very useful to work together to discover all the secrets of the new track so we can prepare our cars in the best way. In a moment like this every detail matters to achieve our goals," he said.
Meanwhile, a brazilian journalist close to massa has scolded sections of the media for speculating that the 29-year-old will be ousted by ferrari at the end of the season.
"it takes a lot to shock me, but when you hear in the media that ferrari are replacing him with robert kubica, kamui kobayashi and adrian sutil, it makes me angry," wrote livio oricchio in o estado de s.paulo.
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Rosberg thinks dominance not fully recognised
Nico Rosberg does not think his dominance within the Mercedes team this year has been well enough recognised.
Indeed, the focus of attention at the Brackley based squad in 2010 has been Michael Schumacher's difficult return to the sport.
But the context of the seven time world champion's struggle has been Rosberg's 13:3 dominance in qualifying, and his 68 point margin over his famous teammate in the drivers' championship.
Rosberg, who moved to Mercedes in 2010 after four seasons at Williams, said: "I don't think my performance is well enough recognised."
Schumacher's problems this year have been explained as due to Bridgestone's new narrower front tyres, which do not suit his driving style.
But "It's the same for me," 25-year-old Rosberg told the German weekly Sport Bild.
"Actually I think Michael has been able to adapt his driving style better than I have," said the German, whose Finnish father is the 1982 world champion Keke Rosberg.
Rosberg also played down the effect of Schumacher's three-year break since initially retiring in 2006.
"Michael has 15 years of experience in formula one," he said.
Rosberg said his own recent experience "hasn't advantaged me because it's mainly been with grooved tyres, and the current front tyre is different from anything else before it".
Mercedes' competition boss Norbert Haug insists Rosberg's efforts have not been undervalued within the team.
"I think it's absolutely obvious that Nico has so far extracted what was possible from the car," he said. "Only on a very few occasions was this not the case.
"I think he learned a lot with Williams and if you would name one of the top guys that are currently young and experienced in formula one you would certainly mention Nico," added Haug.
"So Nico is a very good benchmark for probably everybody in the field."
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woww........ hmm is that really necessary?
Not like any of the 3 teams above him'd be interested in signing him anyways
Nico Rosberg does not think his dominance within the Mercedes team this year has been well enough recognised.
Indeed, the focus of attention at the Brackley based squad in 2010 has been Michael Schumacher's difficult return to the sport.
But the context of the seven time world champion's struggle has been Rosberg's 13:3 dominance in qualifying, and his 68 point margin over his famous teammate in the drivers' championship.
Rosberg, who moved to Mercedes in 2010 after four seasons at Williams, said: "I don't think my performance is well enough recognised."
Schumacher's problems this year have been explained as due to Bridgestone's new narrower front tyres, which do not suit his driving style.
But "It's the same for me," 25-year-old Rosberg told the German weekly Sport Bild.
"Actually I think Michael has been able to adapt his driving style better than I have," said the German, whose Finnish father is the 1982 world champion Keke Rosberg.
Rosberg also played down the effect of Schumacher's three-year break since initially retiring in 2006.
"Michael has 15 years of experience in formula one," he said.
Rosberg said his own recent experience "hasn't advantaged me because it's mainly been with grooved tyres, and the current front tyre is different from anything else before it".
Mercedes' competition boss Norbert Haug insists Rosberg's efforts have not been undervalued within the team.
"I think it's absolutely obvious that Nico has so far extracted what was possible from the car," he said. "Only on a very few occasions was this not the case.
"I think he learned a lot with Williams and if you would name one of the top guys that are currently young and experienced in formula one you would certainly mention Nico," added Haug.
"So Nico is a very good benchmark for probably everybody in the field."
Read more: http://www.worldcarfans.com/11010142...#ixzz12Mo4LdY2
woww........ hmm is that really necessary?
Not like any of the 3 teams above him'd be interested in signing him anyways
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I wonder where Massa will be at next year. I honestly doubt that he would be on the team after this season, which to me is a good thing. You see how kimi was towards the end of his contract with Ferrari. The way Massa has been attitude wise reminds me of Kimi, must be a lot of pressure on him.
Alfy's jump to conclusion mat:
-Alfy decides he's not big on Rosberg.
-RWatters replies saying he doesn't think Rosberg is all that bad.
-Alfy concluces that RWatters believes Rosberg is God and will kill anyone who disagrees with him.
I think you skip a few steps along the way but it's all good.
I'm an Alonso guy. I only like Rosberg because of how much of a tool he's made Schumacher look like. lol
-Alfy decides he's not big on Rosberg.
-RWatters replies saying he doesn't think Rosberg is all that bad.
-Alfy concluces that RWatters believes Rosberg is God and will kill anyone who disagrees with him.
I think you skip a few steps along the way but it's all good.
I'm an Alonso guy. I only like Rosberg because of how much of a tool he's made Schumacher look like. lol
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Massa giving Ferrari the finger would be suicide for his career. No major team would touch him. A minor team may take a chance.
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