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Old 09-26-2010, 03:41 AM
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RED BULL NEWS..

Car 5 SEBASTIAN VETTEL, Position: 2nd
“I think we could have been on pole today, the car was good enough. Unfortunately Q3 was a bit messy, my first run was a waste of time as I misjudged the gap to Michael, I caught him very quickly and lost grip. On the second run the most important thing was to get a lap in, as I didn’t have a proper time yet. The second sector was not great, through Turns 11, 12 and 13 and I hit the wall slightly. I tried to recover in the final sector, but unfortunately it wasn’t good enough and that was it for today. We are second, but it’s is a very long race tomorrow. No one knows what will happen with the weather, if it rains after midday, the track won’t dry completely, so we will see.”

Car 6 MARK WEBBER, Position: 5th
“I knew the front row was going to be very competitive today, but I’m disappointed to be off the second row. I don’t think I could have done a lap to get on the front row; so it could be worse, but it could be better. We will keep hanging in there as it's a long race tomorrow and we’ll see how it goes. I was having trouble getting the rhythm around here; there are a few places where I know I lost time on most of my laps because I wasn't fast enough. Ferrari did a good job and Sebastian has been fast all weekend. Fernando got the pole and fair play to him. Let’s see what we can do from there tomorrow.”

CHRISTIAN HORNER: “Second and fifth is a good starting position for tomorrow, but ultimately it’s frustrating after we showed such promise in the practice sessions. Sebastian was on a good lap, but dropped time on the exit of Turn 12, which left him with a lot to do in the final sector. We missed the pole by the smallest of margins today. Mark didn’t have a particularly clean first run, which left him with a lot to do on the second run and unfortunately fifth was his optimum today. It’s a long hard gruelling race tomorrow; we know we have a competitive race car, so we look forward to tomorrow’s race.”

(Renault) FABRICE LOM: ”This qualifying result is a disappointment after the performance we showed yesterday and in P3 and we expected better. Second and fifth are not bad positions, but they’re lower than we expected. We now have to focus on the race and bounce back from this position to secure the maximum points and not lose too many to our opponents.”
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Hamilton gets eliminated by Webber. Seriously, Webber was behind Hamilton into the turn. He should get a drive through for that.
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Although DiGrassi was a great idiot for fighting for position in a situation like that. He was blue flagged and he knew it was a fight for 3rd position. He should simply get out of the way. He should also have a penalty for what he did.
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No penalty for Webber, I suppose I disagree with the referees. But that is racing
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No penalty for Webber, I suppose I disagree with the referees. But that is racing
Hamilton cut his exit line out of the corner, expecting him to yield rather than continue the fight. I agree with the decision.

Looks like Red Bull has the manufactures championship won. Now lets see how the drivers championship ends with 3or4 races left.
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Nothing quite says domination like qualifying on pole, leading every lap, setting the fast lap, and winning despite having a chassis created by God himself trying to chase you down every single lap of the race.

Well-done Alonso!
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Hamilton cut his exit line out of the corner, expecting him to yield rather than continue the fight. I agree with the decision.

Looks like Red Bull has the manufactures championship won. Now lets see how the drivers championship ends with 3or4 races left.
Agreed. It was a racing incident.

Schumacher's boneheaded move on Heidfeld (I think it was) on the other hand? Just more bullshit from a drive past his prime who will never do anything good in this sport ever again. **** Schumacher, and **** his stupid little wink every time they zoom in on him in the garage.
Old 09-26-2010, 12:28 PM
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Webber just did what Vettel did to him when everybody was defending him some races ago. The only difference is that Vettel was in front, he was following this time. No penalty is fine

Webber confirmed to be a good driver but i'm afraid that he is like jenson button, just a good driver with a superior car. Now that the game is so tight he has troubles because he lacks the natural talent that Vettel has, Hamilton's skills and Alonso's determination.
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i have to give Ferrari credit for the work they have done to improve their car. I also have to give Alonso credit for wringing every last bit out of his car every time he races. He may be a whining bitch but he can drive and develop a car, and he's competitive as hell. I mean he basically lapped Massa!

Mclaren has just not been able to bring their car up to speed like Ferrari and RB have. Both their drivers are doing a great job with what they have but they just don't have enough. They should be better with arguably the best motor of the three top teams.

Red Bull isn't showing quite the dominance they had so they need to get back in the wind tunnel if they hope to give their drivers the Championship. Alonso and Ferrari can smell blood and they are on a Roll.

Webber should keep doing what he's doing and just work on Qualifying better. Vettel needs to stop making little mistakes. If he can start putting together some mistake free races I think he's the fastest man on the track right now and could still take it.

It's really shaping up to be an excellent 3 way fight! (or 4 depending on Mclaren's ability to put a car under Hamilton)

And the 800lb gorilla in the Ferrari Garage right now is what to do about Alonso's engine count. Massa had to take a 9th this race and Alonso is on his 8th. If he has to take an engine penalty in any of the next 4 races it's going to make a deep hole for him to claw out of.

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I completely agree
Alonso showed to be able to back his talk up with some good action. We were all laughing when, 3 races ago, he said that he was still fighting for the championship.
Ferrari is growing as a team and I like it. Domenicali is no Todt but they didn't crap out like usual when the safety car was out and they out-pitted vettel as well.

Alonso also showed to be pretty straight-forward during an italian interview a couple of weeks ago by admitting that he hates the media. "You're the same guys that were praising schumi as the god of motorsports. What did you last write about him? You'll have to go back to your previous statements as soon as he gets a car back together".
That's why he reminds me a bit of villeneuve. He looks like an ******* but that's because he only wants to race and win.
Vettel adds a bit of insanity to that mix, that's why he's going to be an interesting driver in the years to come. How many drivers actually admit that they hoped that the guy in front of them hit a wall during the race? =)
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What a lot of whiners you mob are...LOL

It was a fantastic race by Alonso and Vettel, but equally so was Webber's.

HE was the only driver who improved his grid position, and as for the bullshit 'G 'about Webber not being a great driver??, he looked pretty good to me when passing 6 or so cars (in race), considering this circuit is NOT a passing one., he is on a new Chassis and had Hard Tyres.

The Hami-Webby incident, well it was one of those racing ones, POOR Hami, looking a bit like Vettel...had a good cry, HE was at fault, HE was not far enough past him...IN A CORNER, What was he thinking!!

Webber had Every Right to hold his Inside line, HE had right of way in corner, Hami was not far enough past him BEFORE the turn...Simple.

But fabulous drive by Alonso...really was..
I am interested to know why Massa's car was so far off the pace...it was pathetic.

It is going to be interesting by the end of the season, with those teams without Fresh Engines, Ferrari is in trouble it appears, but they will probably cheat their way into getting they're own way.
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Oh and I think Heiki get's the new "ice man" moniker for his solo handling of his car catching on fire!
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Originally Posted by ASH8
But fabulous drive by Alonso...really was..
I am interested to know why Massa's car was so far off the pace...it was pathetic.

It is going to be interesting by the end of the season, with those teams without Fresh Engines, Ferrari is in trouble it appears, but they will probably cheat their way into getting they're own way.
Massa was stuck in traffic for most of the race, not to mention he finished with the oldest set of tires. Alonso really likes Singapore so that doesn't exactly help Massa look any better either. Lastly he's Massa. He likes following people, not passing them. lol

Brand new engines can blow up, so it's not as big of a deal as it sounds. Ferrari can re-use old engines and they haven't had any engine problems since the FIA allowed them to fix the issue that was causing the failures to begin with. FYI, they reported transmission troubles that killed Massa's car and not engine troubles. Since Massa was starting dead last anyways they'd be a fool not to take a penalty that wouldn't actually hurt them since they're dead last and give him a brand new engine. Pretty clever if you ask me!
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Agree it was a good move to open up the 9th motor for Massa but Ferrari will have to turn the revs down and watch their engines carefully or risk having to open a 9th for Alonso. As fast at the RBs are I don't think he can afford to run an engine that is not 100%.
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Agree it was a good move to open up the 9th motor for Massa but Ferrari will have to turn the revs down and watch their engines carefully or risk having to open a 9th for Alonso. As fast at the RBs are I don't think he can afford to run an engine that is not 100%.
Fernando Alonso won today’s Singapore Grand Prix using the same engine with which he raced in Germany and Hungary. It’s been a successful engine, scoring 68 out of a potential 75 points.

That engine will now be used for Fridays for the remainder of the season.

Despite having now used all his eight allocated engines, compared to his rivals Red Bull and McLaren who each have one fresh one to take, Alonso and Ferrari say that their running will not be compromised.

He has two engines which have both done one race each – Spa and Monza. These will be used across the remaining four races.

Ferrari say they are calm about the situation, given that the engine with which Alonso did his Friday running this weekend had covered over 2,500kms.

The other thing which is giving the team great satisfaction tonight is the fact that they have now beaten their opposition on two very different kinds of track – an extreme low downforce track (Monza) and a high downforce one (Singapore).

“This win means a lot to keep in the fight in the championship, ” said Alonso. “We know there are still four races to go but it seems we can be competitive in any track, so thanks to the team. Great job at the factory. Great job at the track as well getting 100 per cent of our potential all the time, so let’s see in the remaining races. Forza Ferrari!”

This bodes well for them for the remaining races. There is some discussion tonight about whether Korea will happen, although the pragmatists say it will happen even if we all have to muck in and help finish the track on the Thursday!
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This keeps getting better and better!!! Another of my "dream" weekends...

Awesome drive and dominance by Alonso.. He can develop a car and run with it...

Good job, very good job Mr. Webber... You did NOT deserve any penalty and I am glad the stewards saw it that way too.

I guess Mr Hami... will keep making mistakes... Common Mr Vettel, do the same... I will love to see a title fight between Webber and Alonso.

Carlos.
ps1: Mr Alfy. I have sent you yet another box of Kleenex.. maybe you used them already as I have not seen you here

ps2. What is this BS with Speedvision in the USA... Cutting F1 so the rednecks can watch Nascar? WTF?
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WEBBER NEWS...

Mark notched up his eighth podium finish of 2010 at the Singapore Grand Prix, thereby extending his lead in the world championship to 11 points.

“Third was a good result for me,” he says. “I’d struggled with the balance of my car during practice and qualifying, and from fifth on the grid I was expecting a tricky race. But we maximised every opportunity and it was good to get as many points as we did.”

For the first time in several races, Mark made a good start from the clean side of the grid. He exited Turn 1 in fifth place and from there things got progressively better.

“We’ve been criticised for our starts in recent races,” says Mark, “so it was good to nail this one. Seb and I both got away well, which proves that the hard work done by the team in this area has paid off.

“The strategists on the pitwall then took the decision to pit me for prime tyres on lap four, during the first Safety Car period. I questioned the call initially, but it turned out to be spot-on. I dropped back to 11th on the road, but everyone ahead of me had yet to pit and I was racing Lewis Hamilton for third place.”

To make the strategy work Mark had to overtake several cars immediately after his pitstop, which he duly did, and proof that his efforts had paid off came on lap 21. Hamilton pitted and rejoined the race behind Mark, and they then circulated in close proximity, until making contact on lap 36.

“This was the defining moment of the race for both of us,” says Mark. “The race had just re-started after the second Safety Car period and all the cars were closely bunched. I was baulked by a backmarker and that allowed Lewis to get a run down my outside into Turn 7. He turned in, but I was still there and we collided at the apex. It was a racing incident, as the stewards subsequently agreed.”

Lewis’s race was over immediately, but Mark was able to continue, albeit in a compromised manner. His right front tyre had been pushed off the rim in the incident with Hamilton and, according to Bridgestone’s technical chief Hirohide Hamashima, it was just 5mm from slipping off completely.
“As you can imagine,” says Mark, “there was a huge vibration after the incident with Lewis. I couldn’t hold the steering wheel at high speed and I’ve got a massive blister on my right hand as a result. I was just glad to make it to the end of the race, and to keep Jenson [Button] behind was an added bonus for the championship.”
After staying on European time for the Singapore night race, Mark is now adjusting to local time. He heads to Melbourne for a few days this week, before heading to Suzuka for the Japanese Grand Prix in two weeks time.

“Suzuka is a fabulous track,” says Mark. “We’re optimistic that it will suit our car, but it’s tight at the front and we’ll need to prepare well and be on top of our game to get a good result. With only four races to go, things are getting interesting.”
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Car 5 SEBASTIAN VETTEL..NEWS,

Finish Position: 2nd, Start Position: 2nd “Towards the end of the first stint my soft tyres were pretty much finished, so the car was sliding a lot. We came in on the same lap as Ferrari and unfortunately I made a little mistake at the pit stop; otherwise I think it would have been very close. That’s the story of the whole race. I tried to push Fernando as hard as I could into a mistake, but he didn’t make a major one and it’s hard to overtake hereit would have been too risky. In the end we got second and some good points. The most important thing is that the car was quick and competitive all weekend. There was something missing yesterday in qualifying, which is the only thing that affected us today. Some people had been commenting on our starts, but I had a very good start, so we made excellent progress with that. It’s good to get points for the team, it helps us a lot in the Constructors’ Championship and the Drivers’ Championship is still open.”

As far as I could see Alonso made "No Mistakes"...he had a Perfect and Brilliant race.

Happy Vet agreed it is "hard to Overtake in Singapore", so more importantly a great drive by Webber who had to make many overtaking maneuvers..
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**** those backmarkers
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I still don't get how the Hispanias are behind vettel after the SC restart... wtf? am i missing sth here?
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Oh and a Great Race too by Kubica, his driving was awesome. Really enjoyed his overtaking through all those effin BACKMARKERS that Webbi loves to hate......Just get out of the F WAY you Idiots!!
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Originally Posted by dezau
I still don't get how the Hispanias are behind vettel after the SC restart... wtf? am i missing sth here?
They are not allowed to get waived by the safety car to form up in position. They just form them up in their lapped position. It's a silly and unsafe rule that happens only in Formula 1.
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^ I thought that was allowed, that's why the safety car had green lights on between the yellows to let cars pass it when it was deployed, wait so ur saying... cars are allowed to pass it until it picks up the race leader? wtf... this is really gay. i might be whining here but i'd say that's one of the reasons why hamilton had the accident. yes it was a bold move, but really back ******* markers, get the f outta here maneee. come on!
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Yes, there is a green light on the Safety Car to tell them ALL to pass until it picks up the leaders or driver in First Place...

I think it is a GREAT Idea, as when Does the "safety car" move out into the stream of racers???, at what stage or time??, race cars will always be forced to slow behind the SC, so without the "Leader" pick up, they would be severely disadvantaged.

If you are 1,2 or 3, how would you like being stuck in the middle of the pack with all those slow drivers in front on you??, because of NO fault of your driving or track position, because of the accident or safety car??

It would just create MORE accidents with the faster leaders having to pass all the slower cars.

IMO, it is the ONLY way for F1 to go, or any race event.
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hmmm looking at the replays again, webber really had a close one there, it looks as if he intended to brake later than usual and try to bump hamilton out of the way. honestly i doubt he'd even make the turn without riding on the curbs if he hadn't bumped into hamilton this is a really sad race for mclaren or hamilton fan


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