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That is a very sad thing that there are so few women in motorsports. Most women weigh less than men and they are supposedly better at simultaneous capacity. The simultaneous capacity would in this case be used for planning overtake, keeping track on where other cars are, and everything else that goes on in the head of an F1 driver.
With those advantages one would think that women would be dominant over men in motorsports, but it seems that is not the case. Its sad that our gender-roles prevent some truly astonishing racers from ever sitting in a race car.
With those advantages one would think that women would be dominant over men in motorsports, but it seems that is not the case. Its sad that our gender-roles prevent some truly astonishing racers from ever sitting in a race car.
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That is a very sad thing that there are so few women in motorsports. Most women weigh less than men and they are supposedly better at simultaneous capacity. The simultaneous capacity would in this case be used for planning overtake, keeping track on where other cars are, and everything else that goes on in the head of an F1 driver.
With those advantages one would think that women would be dominant over men in motorsports, but it seems that is not the case. Its sad that our gender-roles prevent some truly astonishing racers from ever sitting in a race car.
With those advantages one would think that women would be dominant over men in motorsports, but it seems that is not the case. Its sad that our gender-roles prevent some truly astonishing racers from ever sitting in a race car.
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That is a very sad thing that there are so few women in motorsports. Most women weigh less than men and they are supposedly better at simultaneous capacity. The simultaneous capacity would in this case be used for planning overtake, keeping track on where other cars are, and everything else that goes on in the head of an F1 driver.
With those advantages one would think that women would be dominant over men in motorsports, but it seems that is not the case. Its sad that our gender-roles prevent some truly astonishing racers from ever sitting in a race car.
With those advantages one would think that women would be dominant over men in motorsports, but it seems that is not the case. Its sad that our gender-roles prevent some truly astonishing racers from ever sitting in a race car.
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Alexander Rossi from Formula BMW. Yes, it's Formula BMW Americas, but it could still be viewed as a European junior series since he had to beat the best drivers from the other Formula BMW series.
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I think I saw where your "most of the time, its by luck" comment came from. I've heard it many times. Raikkonen 2007 springs to mind. He fought a major slump in mid-season. Hamilton was challenged with a major slump at the end of that season, while Raikkonen was continually winning or hitting the podium. The championship usually lasts ~18 races. All of them count. Not just the ones at the end.
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I agree. Over the course of one year there is luck involved, but if there is not a huge load of skill and commitment behind it the luck will count for nothing.
Luck for example is the rain at Silverstone allowing Barichello to finish second. (He did finish second right?) A great podium, but Honda still sucked in the drivers and constructors championship.
Luck for example is the rain at Silverstone allowing Barichello to finish second. (He did finish second right?) A great podium, but Honda still sucked in the drivers and constructors championship.
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It looks like USF1 will be making their official announcement on Feb 24th.
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=37014
USF1 may design & build the cars in the US and use Spain as their base of operations.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...12120239.shtml
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=37014
USF1 may design & build the cars in the US and use Spain as their base of operations.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...12120239.shtml
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There was talk of there being a spec engine available if you don't want to design your own. I think that is what they will use. Ferrari doesn't want to expand operations for another team. I don't think Renault will either. I always fear that you get a tuned down engine when you get on a customer program. Why would the parent team want you to have a chance to beat them?
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Sebastian Vettel explains 2009 F1 rule changes (Youtube video)
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2009/02/sebastian-vette.html
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2009/02/sebastian-vette.html
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There was talk of there being a spec engine available if you don't want to design your own. I think that is what they will use. Ferrari doesn't want to expand operations for another team. I don't think Renault will either. I always fear that you get a tuned down engine when you get on a customer program. Why would the parent team want you to have a chance to beat them?
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Could US F1 Team in 2010 feature Danica Patrick?
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Could US F1 Team in 2010 feature Danica Patrick?
By PAUL LOGOTHETIS
The Associated Press
February 15, 2009
An American team will be racing in Formula One next year, and IndyCar driver Danica Patrick is a candidate to fill one of the seats.
USF1, which will be unveiled Feb. 24, will have a staff of at least 100, a working budget of $64 million and an aim to put two American drivers on the starting grid. The team is looking at several candidates, including the 26-year-old Patrick.
'She's great. She gets a lot of press,' USF1 technical director Ken Anderson told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. '(Indianapolis Motor Speedway president) Tony George would probably be pretty mad with me if I took her out of the IRL but we'll see.
'I don't know if it's something she wants to do. We'd certainly love to test her and go from there.'
NASCAR driver Scott Speed, who raced 28 times for F1 team Toro Rosso from 2006-07, is also a candidate.
Conor Daly _ son of former F1 driver Derek Daly _ and Josef Newgarden are also being mentioned, with both drivers presently competing in European junior categories.
The team will be based in Charlotte, N.C., and with much of the technology coming from the United States it means 'there are a lot of companies we can lean on to outsource,' according to Anderson.
Calls by the AP to motor racing's governing body Sunday to confirm that USF1's entry had been accepted were not returned.
The team is currently looking for a secondary base in Europe, most likely sharing with Epsilon Euskadi's team headquarters in northern Spain.
'We're talking to (F1 engineer) Sergio Rinland about basing it at Espselon. It's a beautiful city, it's certainly on top of our list,' said Anderson, who worked as a designer and engineer in F1 and IndyCar. 'Spain makes a lot of sense with all the winter testing.'
Epsilon Euskadi is active in Le Mans and there is a wind tunnel there that meets FIA standards.
Getting back into F1 was a no-brainer for Anderson.
'It's the biggest sport in the world and the biggest TV show in the world,' he said. 'NASCAR has just become a national sport, never mind an international sport.'
With the global economic downturn, more independent teams are possible, especially since FIA president Max Mosley stepped in to reign in the costs with sweeping regulation changes and cost-cutting coming into effect to avoid any other teams from pulling out.
Honda's exit in December is no surprise to Anderson since the Japanese manufacturer's core business interests lay elsewhere.
'Mosley had to step in and stop F1 from killing itself with the manufacturers throwing ungodly money and people and resources at it. It's got to get back to a real business like Frank Williams owns Williams, Ron Dennis owns McLaren, Eddie Jordan owns Jordan and they all had to show a profit at the end of the year and, therefore, had to make intelligent decisions.
'One little hiccup like this and it's all sort of imploded.'
The drop in costs has 'leveled the playing field' although Anderson is targeting points to start.
Pete Windsor, a former team manager at Ferrari and Williams, will partner Anderson and run the competition side of the team.
Anderson remains a throwback to the late 80s and early 90s of F1 when he worked at Williams, Ligier and Onyx.
'In '92, the Williams was the coolest car ever with active suspension, (anti-brake system), that was kind of the peak of technology and their budget for that was less than 30 million pounds,' Anderson said. 'I missed the days when we could do some crazy things.'
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more on this at:
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,189...928271,00.html
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73312
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=37044
There isn't a smiley that correctly expresses my emotions about this at the moment. I was looking for a puke smiley.
Could US F1 Team in 2010 feature Danica Patrick?
By PAUL LOGOTHETIS
The Associated Press
February 15, 2009
An American team will be racing in Formula One next year, and IndyCar driver Danica Patrick is a candidate to fill one of the seats.
USF1, which will be unveiled Feb. 24, will have a staff of at least 100, a working budget of $64 million and an aim to put two American drivers on the starting grid. The team is looking at several candidates, including the 26-year-old Patrick.
'She's great. She gets a lot of press,' USF1 technical director Ken Anderson told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. '(Indianapolis Motor Speedway president) Tony George would probably be pretty mad with me if I took her out of the IRL but we'll see.
'I don't know if it's something she wants to do. We'd certainly love to test her and go from there.'
NASCAR driver Scott Speed, who raced 28 times for F1 team Toro Rosso from 2006-07, is also a candidate.
Conor Daly _ son of former F1 driver Derek Daly _ and Josef Newgarden are also being mentioned, with both drivers presently competing in European junior categories.
The team will be based in Charlotte, N.C., and with much of the technology coming from the United States it means 'there are a lot of companies we can lean on to outsource,' according to Anderson.
Calls by the AP to motor racing's governing body Sunday to confirm that USF1's entry had been accepted were not returned.
The team is currently looking for a secondary base in Europe, most likely sharing with Epsilon Euskadi's team headquarters in northern Spain.
'We're talking to (F1 engineer) Sergio Rinland about basing it at Espselon. It's a beautiful city, it's certainly on top of our list,' said Anderson, who worked as a designer and engineer in F1 and IndyCar. 'Spain makes a lot of sense with all the winter testing.'
Epsilon Euskadi is active in Le Mans and there is a wind tunnel there that meets FIA standards.
Getting back into F1 was a no-brainer for Anderson.
'It's the biggest sport in the world and the biggest TV show in the world,' he said. 'NASCAR has just become a national sport, never mind an international sport.'
With the global economic downturn, more independent teams are possible, especially since FIA president Max Mosley stepped in to reign in the costs with sweeping regulation changes and cost-cutting coming into effect to avoid any other teams from pulling out.
Honda's exit in December is no surprise to Anderson since the Japanese manufacturer's core business interests lay elsewhere.
'Mosley had to step in and stop F1 from killing itself with the manufacturers throwing ungodly money and people and resources at it. It's got to get back to a real business like Frank Williams owns Williams, Ron Dennis owns McLaren, Eddie Jordan owns Jordan and they all had to show a profit at the end of the year and, therefore, had to make intelligent decisions.
'One little hiccup like this and it's all sort of imploded.'
The drop in costs has 'leveled the playing field' although Anderson is targeting points to start.
Pete Windsor, a former team manager at Ferrari and Williams, will partner Anderson and run the competition side of the team.
Anderson remains a throwback to the late 80s and early 90s of F1 when he worked at Williams, Ligier and Onyx.
'In '92, the Williams was the coolest car ever with active suspension, (anti-brake system), that was kind of the peak of technology and their budget for that was less than 30 million pounds,' Anderson said. 'I missed the days when we could do some crazy things.'
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http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,189...928271,00.html
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73312
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=37044
There isn't a smiley that correctly expresses my emotions about this at the moment. I was looking for a puke smiley.
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Nice article alni. i hope she does race in F1, i need a good laugh. also i want the world to see that Danica is only good at racing in circles. Then i want to watch her come up with all the funny excuses why she isnt doing well.
I know that sounds mean and all, i dont like wishing for ppl to fail. but if her attitude was different , instead of a whining, i think i am goddess of racing. then my opinion of her would be different. I think its sucks that they are willing to bring her in, due to what she can bring from the media.
I know that sounds mean and all, i dont like wishing for ppl to fail. but if her attitude was different , instead of a whining, i think i am goddess of racing. then my opinion of her would be different. I think its sucks that they are willing to bring her in, due to what she can bring from the media.
I need to start a poole on when she'll have her first temper tantrum
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