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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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I'm just wondering how much money vodafone pitches in to have their logo on ALL the best spots on the car. I mean, sides, rear wing, front wing and even in small over the air intakes.

Did i miss any position?
Yeah, but aren't they called Vodafone McLaren Mercedes?
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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Yeah, but aren't they called Vodafone McLaren Mercedes?
Yeah, but still. Vodafone is a company handling cellphone technology. And at that it is just a cellphone operator. So what can they contribute, except money?

I mean McLaren is as far as I know a race car company. Mercedes has made one or two cars in the history of time, but Vodafone? Im confused...
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Do you remember the big MARLBORO and LUCKY STRIKE logos on some other cars some time ago?
Money makes this happen!
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:27 AM
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I'm just wondering how much money vodafone pitches in to have their logo on ALL the best spots on the car. I mean, sides, rear wing, front wing and even in small over the air intakes.
Originally Posted by bse50
Do you remember the big MARLBORO and LUCKY STRIKE logos on some other cars some time ago?
Money makes this happen!
Yes I was wondering how much. Thats how the discussion started...
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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*Too much* is the right answer.
Teams use sponsors to cope with the increasing prices set by the "federation" that is more like a corporation though.

Image is pretty important, consider that Vodafone also sponsors a soccer team in italy created with a reality show!
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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isnt the Scanbar on the ferrari, a scan bar for Marbloro? i think the o nly track we ever get to see a marbolo logo is on the Monaco track i think.
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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New wiliams car looks sexy













and Renault


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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Weak 2009 F1 season means Toyota withdrawal

http://www.worldcarfans.com/print/90...ota-withdrawal

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Toyota chiefs have effectively confirmed reports that a poor showing in 2009 will spell and end to the Japanese manufacturer's formula one foray.

At and before the recent launch of the new TF109 car, representatives of the Cologne based squad intimated that without a successful campaign this season, the Toyota board could echo Honda's decision to withdraw.

"We need a strong season," team president John Howett confirmed at the Algarve circuit on Tuesday, where Toyota and other teams are testing their new cars.

He said the team is under "increased scrutiny" from its bosses in Tokyo due to the world financial crisis.

"If we have a weak season we have no future," Howett added.

Howett and his management colleagues have set the target of securing Toyota's first race victory in 2009, and driver Jarno Trulli told an Italian newspaper just before the recent launch that a win within six races in 2009 is necessary.

Howett responded: "Whether we have to win is difficult to say, but I think we feel we have to win.

"It's our desire and our passion, shared by our people in Cologne, and we feel we must win to secure a very bright future in formula one."

One factor in the team's favour could be the new promotion to president of the Toyota Motor Corporation of Akio Toyoda.

"Mr Akio Toyoda is a fan of motor sport and he himself used to do some races, for example participating in the Nurburgring 24 hours," team boss Tadashi Yamashina said.

Yamashina suggested that Toyota's outgoing president, Katsuaki Watanabe, had recently overseen a review of the formula one project.

"Fortunately for us, our president decided that we will stay (in F1)," he is quoted as saying by Auto Motor und Sport.

"This season is therefore very important for us. We need to reduce costs and demonstrate to Toyota that the investment in formula one is worthwhile," he added.
Old Feb 3, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Merc narrowly survived F1 vote

'Merc narrowly survived F1 vote'
Tuesday 3rd February 2009

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,189...890654,00.html

Mercedes-Benz's participation in Formula One recently came close to being scrapped in a management board vote, according to reports in Germany.

With the world gripped in an economic crisis, Formula One has already lost one of its manufacturer outfits with Honda announcing their withdrawal from the sport at the end of last season.

The team, though, has been put up for sale and although Honda Racing CEO Nick Fry mentioned at the beginning of January that he had at least 30 prospective buyers, the Honda team has yet to be sold.

Honda's demise has already raised some doubts about F1's other manufacturers with reports in German publication Focus claiming that the management board of Mercedes-Benz recently put their F1 participation up for a vote.

And the results are somewhat worrying with the continuation of their partnership with McLaren only surviving by three votes to two.

However, Mercedes-Benz isn't the only manufacturer whose F1 program is in doubt as the publication also reports that BMW are considering their involvement.

Focus reports that should BMW achieve their goal of winning the F1 World Champion the German outfit may opt out of F1 in the aftermath.

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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I hope one day, that a driver would say " FUxxxk Ferrari's F1 team"

I hope that driver would be Hamilton lol (jking)
but i get tired of ppl treating Ferrari as the king of F1.
yah they win alot of constructors, but most of the time, its by luck IMO.


http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090205....tells-hamilton

Lewis Hamilton should not rule out one day switching from McLaren in order to race in formula one with the famous Ferrari team.

That is the advice to the 23-year-old British driver of FIA president Max Mosley, who on Wednesday met for a media briefing and lunch with journalists in London.

Hamilton, F1's new reigning world champion, has stated his total commitment to Mercedes-powered McLaren, explaining that he can imagine always driving for the team.

But Mosley said: "If I were Hamilton I would be happy to be at McLaren and I would be happy to move to Ferrari (in the future)."

The 68-year-old Briton said he has no idea how Hamilton's career will actually pan out, but believes most drivers harbour an ambition to drive for the sport's oldest and most famous team.

Mosley mentioned his friend Gerhard Berger, who spent two separate spells at Ferrari in both the 80s and 90s, and also drove for McLaren, as recalling "no better feeling" than "winning at Monza in a Ferrari".

Max Mosley admitted: "If I was a racing driver I would want to have driven a Ferrari for at least one season."

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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I'm a little older and I remember a time when Ferrari wasn't the king of F1. They were pretty much a 2nd tier team in the late 70's and during the turbo 80's.
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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I'm a little older and I remember a time when Ferrari wasn't the king of F1. They were pretty much a 2nd tier team in the late 70's and during the turbo 80's.
hey alnielsen, i was like 3 -5 years old during those times. but who was the king of f1 during those times btw?
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Renault, Williams & McLaren, the players are the same. They just shuffle their position every decade.
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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ahh, i was thinking the black renault would be . but wasnt sure. ty for the info.
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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ahh, i was thinking the black renault would be . but wasnt sure. ty for the info.
If this is the car you are thinking of.....



..... it's a Lotus. Powered by Renault. Renault has been a engine supplier for many F1 teams over the years.

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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If this is the car you are thinking of.....



..... it's a Lotus. Powered by Renault. Renault has been a engine supplier for many F1 teams over the years.
yep that is it. man that car is beautiful.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Red Bull RB5 shown in an animation. Really cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJ-tcz1bME
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Red Bull RB5 shown in an animation. Really cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJ-tcz1bME
that was very awesome persmit.
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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There are several articles out there about it now being offical about a US team's (USF1) entry into Formula 1. Here is one: http://www.f1technical.net/news/11560
There is also one that is a little sceptical about their chances of getting beyond this stage.
http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...opic=1&catid=1
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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its going to be pretty interesting. but i am hoping andretties wont be driving. so tired of hearing that name. i want some one new with awesome skills to rise up. but i dont think that will happen. btw one more month to go

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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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aggreed I dont like Marco at all...
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Red Bull RB5 shown in an animation. Really cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJ-tcz1bME
Nice find, that video alone has restored some confidence and got my blood pumping alittle...
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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aggreed I dont like Marco at all...
Agreed, I don't want to see Marco in that seat. He is the only American, that I know of, that is in a EU series. I don't know what is happening in Formula Renault. There is Kevin Nai Chia Chen in the GP2 Aisa series.

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+1....and I ain't too keen on Danica either!!
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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+1....and I ain't too keen on Danica either!!
She wouldn't fit with what the article says. "He also declared that USF1 is close to signing its first driver for 2010. Anderson hinted at an American who is currently racing in a junior open-wheeler series in Europe."


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