Potentiated

It's Christmas season, I'm going to be nice but direct. Why don't you question yourself as much as you question others, ok?

YaXMaNGTO

The VQ engine rules and the VG is ****.

Potentiated

WhErE aRe YoUr So CaLlEd ArTiClEs?

Huh, cloying pinoy annoying?

playdoh43

i see you erased your insults of me from before. good for you. why are you even getting mad all I'm asking is for you to back up your "fact?"
backing up your fact which I and many disagree with would be a lot more constructive than your name calling and subject changing dont you think?
all we see here is you claiming about some artcle which you can't link us to, if this is such a fact there should be hundreds of articles on the web and easy for you to find.

Renesis07

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This thread has turned into a whole buncha "I know more than you" arguements.

Potentiated

Actually I know your MO from years ago, kiddo. And you know as well as everyone else that Greg started the name calling. Your second post is subtle but not that subtle and attempts to step on my toes.

Just because I can't find the original article from a couple of years ago doesn't mean I don't have proof. Just because a scientist can't pull out every fact from every article he's ever cited doesn't mean old fact isn't the truth. That's why DailyDriver's presence here is so important. Everything he mentioned, as an actual owner who's built up or knows people who have built up the two engines, corroborates EVERYTHING I've said.

Armchair pundit, learn to think, learn to think about yourself, and then learn to evaluate properly other peoples' thinking.

Renesis07

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haha, good one. Hey 1996 called and they want their momma joke back.

playdoh43

we don't need the original article you know? if your claim is such a "fact" then you should be able to find other articles, there should be hundres on the net if its true. where are they? you claim that you have proof, so where is your proof?


also I dont remember dailydriver claiming that the VG is better than the VQ series, if he did then I'd like to read about his reasoning.

Potentiated

You continue to make asinine sound bites and assumptions that take almost no energy to make. In your little mind, hundreds of articles should be available. Maybe they aren't THAT available for internet dorm room pundits? Maybe it's an esoteric topic, right? Nissan certainly wouldn't want this debate going around, right? But I'll bet, like DailyDriver mentioned, that this topic has been brought up in Nissan forums sporadically over the years. You just haven't expended enough energy to find them, right? I can think of many many reasons why this information isn't so readily available.

Actually, if you open up your thinking instead of TRY to avoid retreat, you and Greg would be able to acknowledge that what I said and what DailyDriver said are BASICALLY the same thing. Anyone who is conscientious and doesn't have a pre-existing beef with either me or DailyDriver could chance upon this thread, use some effort to absorb the posts, and conclude that DD and I are on the same page.

Renesis07

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Someone just get this guy a cookie and admit he proved a point so we can get out of this engine debate and back to a discussion about the 370Z

playdoh43

I have no beef with anyone including you. hahaha
I simply disagree with your claim that the VG is better than the VQ thats all.

Potentiated

THIS is the cookie I was looking for!

Potentiated

Right, I agree. And this happens a lot on internet forums. It's frustrating. People will automatically counter without acknowledging or crediting anything you've said.

BlueEyes

Some track pictures.
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2008...t-tsukuba.aspx

alfy28

i really never cared for the look of the 370z. but in white it looks sweet.

PotatoSoup

There's nothing to discuss. It will understeer into a wall. End of story.

ivory8

what kind of mods could be done to help counter act its understeer? suspension mods obviously but which ones would be the best?

kersh4w

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the gas pedal mod.

PSTNLSS

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3xxZ still reminds me of that high school *****: everyone talks about and everyone gets to ride it

RX8-Frontier

I have nothing to add...

My experience between the VG and the VQ engine is from the truck side; Nissan uses virtually the same engines in their trucks, with the exception that the VG engine in the Frontier/Xterra & Hardbodies were single overhead cam instead of the DOHC that the 300z got.

The VG engine, for truck applications, is MUCH better than the VQ engine. It's more reliable (look it up), but more importantly, the VG engine gets 90% of its torque under 2,500 rpms and keeps it pretty well flat through the whole range, whereas the VQ engine doesn't get it's peak until around 5k. Not to mention, the VQ engine has to get over 4k rpms before it's putting out more torque than the VG engine it replaced. For a truck, that's a big deal, as low end torque is what's needed to get a load moving, and not the higher-rpm torque.

But, that's really got nothing to do with this conversation, so again, I've got nothing important to add...

Raptor75

As for myself I like it. Much nicer lines then the 350 and looks more sporty then before. MT has o-60 of 4.7sec which are pretty nice numbers, especially when you can hit them with out having to drop the clutch at 6K like the RX justr to hit 6sec.

That being said, I still can't understand why Nissan can't make this car 300lbs lighter. Common on, the RX is 3,000lbs and seats 4, maybe Nissan should take some lesson from Mazda. If Mazda builds 4th gen RX-7 you can bet it will not be a pound over 2800lbs.

I'm also disappointed that the car did not go direct injection they could have put another 15% HP and mileage at the same time. Still has fugly over sized plastic door handles.

Over all if I was in the market for a 2 seater this would be right at the top of my list, nice job all in all.

GTSpec

hehe..they already have half of their part list completed:





Here's more than just a stock body:



Mine's 370Z Image Gallery

Mine's 370Z Part List

JRichter

^ Nice exhaust.

dillsrotary

Actually oversteer is the problem, especially with the shorter wheelbase.


One of the main problems that will soon surface is the EXTREMELY high oil temps when tracked. The G37 is seeing excessive temps and solution is an oil cooler and trans oil cooler (both aftermarket.) Several members are upset that nissan hasn't included such a feature to begin with.

Raptor75

If I was in the market I'd give this car 2 years to shake out the bugs. 3rd model year should be great.