Dinhx8

Just read this, hope its not a repost, but a new race inspired trim level for the s2000 will be avail this fall. Sounds interesting...


03/13/2007 - TORRANCE, Calif. - A new club racer-inspired version of the Honda S2000 will take the legendary vehicle's track-worthy performance to an entirely new level when it makes its world debut at the New York International Auto Show on April 4, American Honda Motor Co., Inc., announced today. Engineered around the expectations and needs of Honda performance enthusiasts, the S2000 CR will be available as a new trim level when the aggressively-tuned vehicle goes on sale in the fall of 2007.

press release

playdoh43

intriguing, im hoping for an Elise killer

CarAndDriver

A stripped down and lightened S2K in order to maintain sales. Its getting old and who knows if it is going to get replaced.

m477

Don't hold your breath, this is a "club racer" version, not a Type R.

It will most likely just be the s2000 equivalent of the Club Sport Miata that was offered around 2003, which was essentially a base model with no radio or A/C and a slightly stiffer suspension. I believe the Solstice is available with a similar configuration as well.

Basically the point is to have a car which is more competitive in things like auto-x, without losing the factory stock classification.

RX8Maine

So far no info on specifics. I searched for "s2000 cr" at Honda.com and got to view the compression ratio of the current model.

RX-Hachi

I agree.

It will be interesting to see if it sells well. I believe the club sport Miata sold very poorly. Another similar car was the E36 M3 lightweight. It also sold very poorly. However, these cars are now kind of niche market collectors' cars.

playdoh43

i dont think honda is doing this mainly with sales in mind but more of a gift for hardcore fans. this will be a very low volume selling car

CarAndDriver

A parting gift.

strokercharged95gt

Im sorry but who would pay 30k for a car with no radio or AC??? How about leave the 25lbs of radio and AC and give the car some torque?

Dinhx8

who says it won't have radio or a/c?- the above was talking about the Club sport Miata and was pure speculation in regards to the s2000.

124Spider

It's always funny to read on an RX-8 site some yahoo busting the S2000 for lack of torque. If the RX-8 had even as much torque as the S2000, I suppose I could say it's the pot calling the kettle black. But since the RX-8 has even less torque than the S2000, I'll just call it funny.

Whatever Honda chooses to do with this car, you can be pretty sure that they know more than you about their target market. $30,000 for a brand new, purpose built car optimized for road racing would be quite attractive to lots of folks. It will be very interesting to see what they decide to do.

Steiner

Rest assured it will be nothing spectular or even remotely progressive. Honda have all but perfected the art of boring the **** out of their enthusiast base in America.

124Spider

Obviously, for some, ignorance is bliss. This may be the silliest comment I have read on these forums. This will be a normally aspirated, >260bhp, <2600 lb car, tuned for the track. First, some yahoo on an RX-8 forum throws a jab at the S2000 for its torque , then another yahoo on an RX-8 forum assures us that the car won't be exciting. Let's see--It will have lots more power, significantly more torque, be tuned for track performance, and weigh 400 pounds less than the RX-8, often called here the flagship of Mazda zoom-Zoom. Gee, if you actually believe your own nonsense, what does that say about Mazda?

For Six

Im pretty sure Honda knows what their doing with this, I cant wait to see what the new specs are and what it looks like.

Steiner

Two important things people should consider before reading your response to my comments...

1.) I don't drive an RX-8
2.) You drive an S2000

Make more sense now folks?

Sephiroth

Where is all this coming from? Post your source.

124Spider

Ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of the guy shooting blanks.

I also drive an RX-8. It's just that I don't mindlessly (yes, "it will be nothing spectular or even remotely progressive" is mindless) knock other cars; I appreciate other cars.

But go ahead and knock Honda if it makes you feel better. The rest of us know how silly your statement is, but carry on.

124Spider

Well, aside from lots of interesting posts on the S2ki board, one can rather easily figure out that Honda wouldn't be making an announcement like this if it were just a different color. Since the stock S2000 is 237bhp, 2800 pounds, and the announcement specifically refers to club racing, it's certainly not a stretch to figure that they'll tune the power train a bit to find a few more ponies, knock some weight off (heck, the stock S2k has power top, so they can knock 100 pounds off by making it hand-operated, and it woudn't be very hard to find another 100 pounds by, e.g., eliminating sound-dampening materials, and/or making the air conditioner an option. None of that would be hard for Honda to do, and it would be extremely surprising if they didn't do it on this car.

ZoomZoomH

iTrader: (1)

what i really would like in this 'club sport' s2000 trim is a factory installed, SCCA/major car club approved roll bar, so i can take one right off the showroom and go FULL SPEED on a road circuit...

the roll bar itself will be worth the price over the stock s2k right there

124Spider

I do agree with that sentiment. Roll hoops don't make it for tall people.

But the problem is that there is no "one size fits all." I bought the Spec Miata in part because there was no way to fit a proper roll bar in my S2000, and keep the top working properly. Different people need different height roll bars. Perhaps if it were a factory option, that would make everyone happy--if the factory option fits you, it saves time and money.

VikingDJ

I can't wait to see it, although I'm pretty sure I'll be hanging onto my 2006. I don't know about lots more power. Perhaps 10 more hp. I'd like to see them get that redline back up to 8900 again,, or at least 8500, because part of me misses that, although I don't miss how the engine sounded at that RPM. Nasty. I miss my RX8 for that. It should be more about rawness, lighter weight and better handling. I had an 01 prior to getting my 06 last year, and the car got really tame, although that's what I wanted, and I have no regrets. It will be nice to see a raw version come back. I am more into cruising and just inspired road driving, not autocrossing, so I doubt I'd get it. However, I'll definitely be test driving it, and if I like it more then my 06, I won't hesitate to trade it in for one.

Steiner

Please spare us the Junior College semantics. If you actually knew what Ad Hominem meant you would know that you popped the personal attack cherry when you called me an ignorant yahoo almost 24 hours ago. All I did is reveal the motivations of the little man sitting on the other end of the keyboard. The fact is you have an emotional connection to Honda and defend her like it's your next of kin. Your S2K was fast and fun when it was first released almost 8 years ago. Now it's tired and predictable like every other Honda. This new trim, if in fact it ever even happens, is just another attempt to stir up their enthusiast base. Some people see it. Others prefer Honda continue to **** on them and tell them it's raining. As long as it's a nice thick, frothy stream of warm S2K urine you'll always be the latter.

124Spider

I doubt it will be a very comfortable car. For those who just use their car for spirited driving, the normal version probably will continue to be a far better choice. I expect this version to be more spartan--sprung stiffer; less comfortable seats (better on the race track); either no radio or even less radio than the normal version comes with. This probably is meant to compete with the Elise (else there's not a lot of point).

124Spider

Wow; where is this anger coming from?

And, for the record, I called you a yahoo (for saying such an amusing thing about Honda), not an ignorant yahoo. But I stand corrected.

Dinhx8

dude calm down. He owns an 8 and an s2k. His comments regarding torque are spot on. If you don't like Hondas or care about the s2k, then stop wasting your time and ours in this thread.