Easy_E1

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Was kinda hoping the same thing. But I really doubt it.

dezau

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wait. fur real???

Mazmart

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I would imagine the 'RX-9' could also use the new patented hybrid configuration Mazda has worked on.

I have a friend at Mazda who just returned from 'assignment ' in a foreign country where manufacturers conduct tests. I have no idea what he was doing and I have no intention of asking (I just hope it had something to do with sports cars).

Paul.

imop45

Yeah the reviews on the hybrid system compared with others says it's slightly inferior to the other designs.. But there isn't too many designs left, mazda had to do something.

But maybe mazda could also incorperate the SISSystem (turns engine off during idle).

Keep in mind tho, hybrid systems are heavy.

Variable transmission option (Econemy/sport/race options, like bmw's) aren't. Also, like bmw's, a variable horsepower setting. Just takes a computer system.

imop45

SISS article link: http://www.wheels.ca/article/32454

Doesn't take much more weight to do it either, and hardware-wise is cheap.

up to 10 percent savings.

zoom44

you know the last time they had "surprises" they had that SC'd car in the little room of the courtyard which we had to figure out for ourselves and that turbo'd one in the lot with everyone elses- and no one realized the turbo car was there until Berny told us at the end!

Cam

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Awesome news. Just hard to imagine Mazda offering two rotary vehicles (not doubting your source).

Im thinking the RX7 will move to the 16x in 2012.

If the Renny isnt certified for EU (and now US?) Id think it will have to be detuned to try to meet emissions.

Since I have my 8 Ill be looking for a RX7 come 2014 or so. Damn, really need the wife to get back to work now (been home taking care of 3 and 1 year old boys).

Any word on which auto shows Mazda will be revealing the 7/9, either production ready, or "concept"?

lzhmax

and hope that coupe Rx7 will defeat R35GTR

Cam

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only in price

LionZoo

Do you mean RX-7 or RX-9? I feel that a Miata based four door might be a bit small.



This thread has brought me back to rx8club. It's my first post in I have no idea how long...

MattMPS

the concept of SKY-D was a 2liter twin turbo charged engine, in no way such of engine could take place into a 2 bonnet. believe me, i own a 2.

maybe there have planned a family of diesels, but... is not easy to do like with gasoline engines..

Huey52

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Suddenly there are a lot of options for 2012. I wonder if they're just trying to get them in before the end of the world.

It would make sense that the RX-7 would be a Miata-Renesis, with the RX-9 being the 16X 4-door replacement for our current RX-8.

But if they also re-offer a MS Miata (retracting hardtop)??? Decisions, decisions.....

pking1122

As Easy said, the 8 is based on the Miata and has 4 doors. My 'guess' would be the 9 continues the spirit of the 8 in design.

I love the config of the 8, and would be thrilled with a more efficient, and powerful engine. I'll be saving for my 9, and will probably keep the 8 as a toy to mod.

zoom44

well thats backwards actually. The chassis was developed for the RX-8 then shortened for the the Current MX-5. The shortened version gets a few changes going forward for new crash standards in the US. any rotary 2 doorseat wil be based on that with arotary "4" door/seat getting a newer version of the longer chassis with the crash standard upgrades.

8 Maniac

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Sounds like you have some information you might be holding out on us zoom. Or you have really good predictions. But considering that you've known stuff in the past, I'm going to keep believing you know more than you're saying.

Easy_E1

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I meant to say RX7 in my post. I have since fixed that.

I'm thinking the RX7 will be a MX5 based platform and the RX9 will be, as suggested, based upon the RX8 platform.

I can envision a sporty 4 door model RX9. Along the lines and size of the current RX8.
The RX7 will be a sporty 2 door light weight sports car.
Mazda has made and will continue to make, a well balanced, fun to drive ZOOM ZOOM car.

MattMPS

speaking about concept cars of the past....we 'll have a Kabura + a Senku (or something like that)?

imop45

so your friend has been test driving the prototype rx7 or rx9?

pking1122

Thanks.

CrazyJek

Im just waiting for the numbers.

Since the 16x is actually a Renny as well, just slightly different design and larger displacement, the new 13B for the smaller Rx7 variant with im sure a better CAT will be able to produce comparable horsepower as the current without having to worry about the emission problem.

If they can shave 300 pounds off with the smaller Rx7, and maybe bump horsepower with better tech up by 10-15... then it should be more then sufficient. Add a top end Mazdaspeed model with some FI and we can fly to the moon with all those Vtecs.

If the 16x is going to be thrown into a 4door design, whether it has "half doors" or 4 full doors like the lexus IS, i just hope it isnt any heavier then 3200 pounds and still keeps its 50/50 weight ratio. I hope they keep its handling like the 8.


Understand that Mazda may not be giving us exactly what we want, but they are still a car company that needs to sell its cars. Doing it this way will most definitely sell more cars. They will cover both segments individually that the Rx8 was trying to cover at the same time. One for the strict sports coupe segment, and one for the family/convenient man wanting to go Zoom-Zoom. I am glad to see our beloved unique engine design being given more spotlight. Having two cars HOPEFULLY ADVERTISED with rotary engines will be good. Hell, even GM might use a variant of the wankel.

Just give us a car that has the numbers to compete in speed with our rivals, and the handling of our beloved 8 or better. Do that and advertise, and you will sell many, many cars.



Lets just hope Mazda does not prematurely release their engines with some major quirks. I do not want to see a bad rep for them as the early Rx8's. I also hope that rep does not carry over... but i think an Rx7 badging will stop that dead in its tracks.

Just my $.02.

Chad D.

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Hopefully they show it off in Detroit like the Rx8. That was great.
And about Mazda not being able to do two wankel'd cars? think rx7 and cosmo in the early nineties....one was race the other was class, cosmos door was two long anyway.
I am certainly hoping they get it right. Biodiesel RX9.

bulletproof21

if they are bringing back the rx7 name then I am surprised the larger car will be rx9 and not rx8. Unless the larger is a true four door instead of the smaller suicide doors.

Chad D.

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Considering they never advertise the rx8, it is probably just a marketing principle. New car new name market the hell out of it. If they keep it rx8 and all of a sudden start promo'ing the new rx8 it would probably fall flat. Old names are kept purely for marketing reasons.
On that note i'm going to make a new thread...

zoom44

and it could still be that both don't go forward. what is shown to certain parties in early views etc isnt necessarily set in stone.

LionZoo

If they keep the 13B configuration, I wonder if they'll go to aluminum side plates like they are for the 16X.

A 2 seat Miata based coupe with an all aluminum rotary is almost like Mazda is trying to make amends with me to lure me back from the darkside of the Lotus Elise. I am crossing my fingers that this does go through.