swoope

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to funny.

i have done it twice.

comes out to 30k in orange.

this might be my new daily driver economy car.. with 426 hp. how cool is that?

beers

devildog1679

I like the all black with the RS package.

alienRX8

me too, id take an SS2 with the RS package :D

devildog1679

Just called the dealership, they wouldn't say for sure but they hinted that in April they'll have the first ones come in.

Red Rex

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Victory Red SS2 RS ftw

I'm somehow ignoring the huge sale put up by BHR. I'm not going to do anything else to my RX8 until I drive the new Camaro. If it sucks, I'll leave with having respect for the Camaro and continue upgrading my RX8. If its good however, I'll leave my RX8 as is and sell it in a year or two and go from 235 bhp to 426. Basically I'm going from a base C6 Corvette straight to a ZR1!

alienRX8

Yeah my gf wants me to go look at the new camaro cause she likes it a lot and she says if I like it should buy it hehe.

Red Rex

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Check out my new thread in this area! Camaro ss vs mustang gt vs challenger rt! All priced very closely! Compared straight line performance, handling, build quality, and braking!

Red Rex

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Stupid no caps rule! Where's the dramatic effect??

devildog1679

The only thing the Camaro needs now is a track package, which will only include shocks, springs and sways, it already has the tires and brakes. With a track package it would dominate, I suspect a factory track package could be had for 2K. You should go on the Mustang forums and read all the posts, they arte hurting over there

Kevo

Lol. Then do yourself a favor and NEVER wander too close to a track with your 8...cuz if you do...and you run it...you will be screwed...you will never want to leave.

RotoRocket

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Early reviews on Camaro not so good...steering and handling aren't glowing aspects of the car.

If the Camaro platform is based on the Pontiac G8 (Holden), which it is, this surprises me, as that car has great steering feel and very good handling.

kersh4w

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the g8 weighs the same. has the same power. handles better. has 4 doors. costs the same.

devildog1679

Where are you getting your #'s. The G8 has posted lower #'s then the Camaro in all tests done by C&D.

shazy

From his ***? Maybe he's talking about the G8 GXP?

devildog1679

LOL but even the GXP posted lower #'s.

kersh4w

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of course im talking about the gxp.

it has 415hp and 415 lbs/ft

oh noes, cry me a river over 11hp.

devildog1679

Hey how much would you give for 11 hp in your 8 The HP isn't a big difference but the other performace #'s look better for the Camaro according to C&D tests. The GXP is also a few grand more. I've never taken a look at the G8 but maybe when I test the Camaro I'll also test the G8 GXP.

YaXMaNGTO

What I'm hoping for is that the Camaro SS causes the GXP value to plummet, and then I'll get one for a prayer. That's my plan, anyways.

devildog1679

That's actually a good plan.

delhi

So I sat in the SS yesterday. Wow.... I understand that Chevy is gunning for a retro look but seriously does the material has to be retrograded with '70s quality? I mean the as listed price of the SS is twice that of the new Mazda3 and yet the Mazda3 owns it in the interior department. Hard cheap plastics everywhere. They feel worse than my home keyboard plastics! I am so let down by this car. Chevy has once again fail me.
I now understand why it has to go fast, so that the driver doesn't have to spend another second in this plastic bucket.
In contrast the Hyundai Genesis Coupe is well executed. It is fast and the interior doesn't make you feel like a car mfg hates you.

Marklar

I think that this is the main reason why American cars still have a bad image when it comes to quality, because the build quality is so shabby. Mechanically the car may be great, but if the interior is filled with cheap Fisher-Price plastic that's a turn-off for most.

This car looks bad ***, if I were a muscle car guy it would top my list. The LS3 is a beautiful thing, it's one hell of an engine.

Red Rex

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How did you sit in an SS? Its not even out yet. Hopefully you sat in some prototype for display. Inside Line and Motortrend both agree the Camaro has the better quality interior between it and the Mustang, which they comment on having a HUGE upgrade in quality. I can't see the Camaro having that bad of an interior. Compared to an Audi maybe. The interior is a huge deal to me (the RX8 was the slowest list on my list of cars I wanted but the interior was what clenched the deal), so I hope the Camaro has at least a half decent interior...

YaXMaNGTO

Judging a car on plastic. Dude, auto makers are using the same damn plastics these days... it has to do the with quality of the molds they use for mass production (that's the f'ing expensive part) and the design. If you dont the like the design, fine, I get that, but I just cant see this plastic thing. It can't be that bad.

SpeedGSXR

13 flat...that's all? I thought SS models were supposed to be fast...

delhi

R u facking serious? I sure hope you are kidding. Here's the car at the press event that I attended yesterday. A mazda3 GT's interior would dance circles around the Camaro. It is not even in the same dimension to that of the RX-8 which is old.



Here's the poor quality interior. The hard plastics have this appalling hollow tap... like those cheap plastic Koss speakers. Matched with horrible 70s ergonomics and you have an alarmingly bad interior experience. I guess GM is really aiming at the older folks or people with lower expectations. Apart from that the exterior is A1. Comes with AP Racing brakes too.



I judge the car by its overall quality not just one single measurement. I can understand that the Camaro's poor shoddy trims is OK with you considering your current ride is a Pontiac. But outside of GM, there are car mfg that delivers in more areas than just some fast straight line times. As a driver, one does spend time inside.
If the Camaro SS' price is not that high, I wouldn't be so disappointed.