New 370 could get a V8
06-27-2008, 10:04 AM
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I hate heavy *** cars. Though the Z isnt all THAT heavy in first place, is nice to see it trimmed down to where it should have been in first place. Credit where it is due, im all for it.
06-27-2008, 10:05 AM
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Huh? The Miata is between 2300 and 2500lbs. The base 350z coupe is 3300lbs. And no one is gonna consider the 350z a tad bigger in size than a Miata.
The weight specs of ~3100 are for the 370z v6 (and I don't think they've been confirmed, have they?). If they're putting a V8 in a special ed. then that is obvioulsy going to go up significantly and I doubt they're gonna put it in a base body so there will be more weight added with the additional appearance parts, bigger wheels, etc. that normally go on a special edition.
Not to mention that Nissans current v8 doesn't look like it's going to be able to produce much more total power than the specs for the 370z's v6 are already said to be producing so we're talking about Nissan likely needing a new V8...
Lower weight and more horses in the 370z are something to be complimented. That's what we're all hoping for the next-gen RX. But if they're going the opposite route with a special edition then Nissan obviously isn't getting it.
YMMV.
The fact that Nissan may put in a V-8 into a car around 3000 lbs is going to make this a serious performer.
Not to mention that Nissans current v8 doesn't look like it's going to be able to produce much more total power than the specs for the 370z's v6 are already said to be producing so we're talking about Nissan likely needing a new V8...
Lower weight and more horses in the 370z are something to be complimented. That's what we're all hoping for the next-gen RX. But if they're going the opposite route with a special edition then Nissan obviously isn't getting it.
YMMV.
06-27-2008, 10:05 AM
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The 350z is a tad bigger than a Miata and is only 200-300lbs more than a Solstice/Sky. The fact that they are trimming over 200lbs while increasing HP is impressive in this day of everything getting larger and heavier. Mazda is one of the few companies to believe in weight savings. More will do so now because of gas prices and CAFÉ requirements. The fact that Nissan may put in a V-8 into a car around 3000 lbs is going to make this a serious performer. Hell 330 hp and 3,100hp is plenty. Look at the reviews of the 135 with 300hp and 3,300-3,400 lbs (probably makes more than listed but still). I found the 135 to be more than fast enough for me.
I don’t really find the 350z to be the RX8’s competition; it only has two seats so for many that makes it not an option. My purpose in posting the news was well its news and many here talk about the 350z and I believe in giving credit where credit is due. Good job Nissan, by making your product better you encourage everyone else to do the same.
IF Mazda gets the 16x to market, IF they put it in a light-weight 2 seater or 2+2 then it should be competitive with what is coming out on the market for 2009. So when is the debut of the 16x again?
I don’t really find the 350z to be the RX8’s competition; it only has two seats so for many that makes it not an option. My purpose in posting the news was well its news and many here talk about the 350z and I believe in giving credit where credit is due. Good job Nissan, by making your product better you encourage everyone else to do the same.
IF Mazda gets the 16x to market, IF they put it in a light-weight 2 seater or 2+2 then it should be competitive with what is coming out on the market for 2009. So when is the debut of the 16x again?
06-27-2008, 11:53 AM
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Why is everyone assuming its a production V8 that will go into this 370Z. It's obviously going to have alot more horsepower than the 3.7 motor in order to sell, so the current line up (and HP numbers) isn't being considered.
06-27-2008, 12:16 PM
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I think it's great for the Z. Losing weight. In the past, the 350z always rank lower in the agility department when compared to the rx8 despite more power.
Putting a V8 (assuming it will not upset the handling further and negate the weight loss) would be stunning! It will be a formidable car to the 911s let alone the weak sauce RX-8.
I am wondering however is normally the G-coupe and the Z are twins. Why is the G-coupe getting heavier and no V8?
Putting a V8 (assuming it will not upset the handling further and negate the weight loss) would be stunning! It will be a formidable car to the 911s let alone the weak sauce RX-8.
I am wondering however is normally the G-coupe and the Z are twins. Why is the G-coupe getting heavier and no V8?
06-27-2008, 01:48 PM
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its pretty apparent that Nissan dominated this generation of the japanese sports car market, they sold a lot of Zs and made a lot of money. Im looking forward to the next gen and Toyota joining. competition means better cars for everyone.
06-27-2008, 01:50 PM
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Huh? The Miata is between 2300 and 2500lbs. The base 350z coupe is 3300lbs. And no one is gonna consider the 350z a tad bigger in size than a Miata.
The weight specs of ~3100 are for the 370z v6 (and I don't think they've been confirmed, have they?). If they're putting a V8 in a special ed. then that is obvioulsy going to go up significantly and I doubt they're gonna put it in a base body so there will be more weight added with the additional appearance parts, bigger wheels, etc. that normally go on a special edition.
Not to mention that Nissans current v8 doesn't look like it's going to be able to produce much more total power than the specs for the 370z's v6 are already said to be producing so we're talking about Nissan likely needing a new V8...
Lower weight and more horses in the 370z are something to be complimented. That's what we're all hoping for the next-gen RX. But if they're going the opposite route with a special edition then Nissan obviously isn't getting it.
YMMV.
The weight specs of ~3100 are for the 370z v6 (and I don't think they've been confirmed, have they?). If they're putting a V8 in a special ed. then that is obvioulsy going to go up significantly and I doubt they're gonna put it in a base body so there will be more weight added with the additional appearance parts, bigger wheels, etc. that normally go on a special edition.
Not to mention that Nissans current v8 doesn't look like it's going to be able to produce much more total power than the specs for the 370z's v6 are already said to be producing so we're talking about Nissan likely needing a new V8...
Lower weight and more horses in the 370z are something to be complimented. That's what we're all hoping for the next-gen RX. But if they're going the opposite route with a special edition then Nissan obviously isn't getting it.
YMMV.
None of this is confirmed as of yet. The production 370 z V-6 will be shown in LA this year. Personally the stock 370z if its 3,100lbs and 330hp should be more than sufficient and will probably be priced similar to the 350z so a good value as well.
Now if GM would put an LS engine in the Solstice coupe…crazy.
06-27-2008, 02:01 PM
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people have speculated about a v8 Z and G for years now, i dont think they are really going to do it, theres really not much point considering their targeted market segment. they are in the business of making cheap sports cars, a v8 Z would not sell well and they already have the GT-R. in the end the bottom line is all about the $$$
06-27-2008, 02:22 PM
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^ they were tested a supercharged version a couple years ago. It seems that nissan is interested in an up scale rare version of the Z but has yet to pull the trigger
06-27-2008, 02:31 PM
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now, what i'd REALLY like to see, is to leave the z as a v6 only, and make a decked out line of infiniti's ... a g35 sedan and coupe w/ a v8, decked out to compete against audi's rs line, bmw's m line, etc. THAT would be refreshing!!
i don't see a a point in offering numerous engine version so the z...
07-01-2008, 12:37 PM
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I heard it's coming out in 2011. The reasons why the Z and 8 are compared so much is because of the previous models that they replace. Also the pricing of both cars, the pricing is in the same ball park and the performance is similar. If Nissan puts a v8 in the new Z then I think Mazda should make a limited edition FI RX. I can't wait for the new Renesis.
07-01-2008, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
the current 4.5L V8 from nissan isnt really make much more than 330hp... the highest hp application of the v8 i think is in the Infiniti M45 making 325hp... thats lower than the 335 from the vq37hvr...
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...Not to mention that Nissans current v8 doesn't look like it's going to be able to produce much more total power than the specs for the 370z's v6 are already said to be producing so we're talking about Nissan likely needing a new V8...
YMMV.
YMMV.
^^Huh??? Uhhmmm...you guys do know that Nissan/Infiniti already has a new V8 out that handily outpowers the VQ37... right? Cuz it surrre doesn't sound like it from some of the comments you guys are makin'.
http://www.infiniti.com/fx/specifica...pandCategory=1
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._test/(page)/1
Further, I'm confused as to how ya'll missed that when it debuted in the same vehicle as the 7sp AT that was mentioned.
Anyhow, was just checkin'. Carry on..
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07-02-2008, 07:20 AM
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Putting a V8 in the Z would not make a good business venture, look at what a Nismo Z is going for, I stepped in my local Nissan dealership the other day to pick up a filter for my Titan, the out the door sticker on a Nismo Z was 41,900. I am sorry but for a extra 10-12k i will be going to Chevy dealership and getting myself a brand new 430HP Vette. A car that can out run, out handle , and surely best it in all round looks and quality. The quality of late with Nissan is strait Donkey D*ck these days. 
07-02-2008, 11:13 AM
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^^Huh??? Uhhmmm...you guys do know that Nissan/Infiniti already has a new V8 out that handily outpowers the VQ37... right? Cuz it surrre doesn't sound like it from some of the comments you guys are makin'.
http://www.infiniti.com/fx/specifica...pandCategory=1
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._test/(page)/1
Further, I'm confused as to how ya'll missed that when it debuted in the same vehicle as the 7sp AT that was mentioned.
Anyhow, was just checkin'. Carry on...
http://www.infiniti.com/fx/specifica...pandCategory=1
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._test/(page)/1
Further, I'm confused as to how ya'll missed that when it debuted in the same vehicle as the 7sp AT that was mentioned.
Anyhow, was just checkin'. Carry on..
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07-02-2008, 12:40 PM
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G37 is a luxury cruiser Gt , 370Z is going to be a light weight sports car ,where all around performance would be the focus.
01-04-2009, 01:57 AM
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Check back a little farther for those wheels. Here's the Mazda RX-01 concept car from 1995:
http://www.chocobo.org/~Diablo/rx01gall.htm
http://www.chocobo.org/~Diablo/rx01gall.htm
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