Mitsubishi Eclipse Ralliart Concept
11-09-2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Yeah, someone doesn't know the difference between whp and chp or bhp...
11-09-2005, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by archangelcomp
Heh...yes I do. It might not be exact...but what car manufacturers are actually honest about the numbers? :p
Uhhh, most of them...
11-09-2005, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
look, the dodge stealth sucks ba!!s
And yeah...look up the numbers. 1st and 2nd gen SL's and bases were advertised as 222hp. Blah!
11-09-2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by archangelcomp
They dont look that hot, I agree with that part...but they kinda are mechanically identical. They are way too...dodge looking :p
And yeah...look up the numbers. 1st and 2nd gen SL's and bases were advertised as 222hp. Blah!
And yeah...look up the numbers. 1st and 2nd gen SL's and bases were advertised as 222hp. Blah!
11-09-2005, 08:56 PM
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Whered the whole "is it your dads" thing come into play?
www.google.com
Use it to find stock HP numbers for the 1st and 2nd gens. All sites will say 222.
I'm not saying this is true, but if you consider the weight and the 0-60 times...it sounds about right to me.
www.google.com
Use it to find stock HP numbers for the 1st and 2nd gens. All sites will say 222.
I'm not saying this is true, but if you consider the weight and the 0-60 times...it sounds about right to me.
11-09-2005, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
hehe archangelcomp, are you sure you know the difference between wheel horse power and crank horse power? 
I'm not as stupid as i look :p
11-09-2005, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by archangelcomp
haha yes, horsepower at the wheels and horspower at the crank
I'm not as stupid as i look :p
I'm not as stupid as i look :p
Someone had to say it
11-09-2005, 09:12 PM
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when you say fwhp, it means the actual power that the car is making at the front wheels. car makers qoute the crank hp of a car, which is the power made by the drive train at the crank, you loose a lot of that power by the time it gets to the wheels.
the LS makes 222hp at the crank, and probably around ~190 fwhp give or take a few. a car like the new 260hp maxima probably makes around 222fwhp. 222fwhp is a lot of power, a car with that much power should usually be able to do 0-60 in under 6 seconds.
the LS makes 222hp at the crank, and probably around ~190 fwhp give or take a few. a car like the new 260hp maxima probably makes around 222fwhp. 222fwhp is a lot of power, a car with that much power should usually be able to do 0-60 in under 6 seconds.
11-09-2005, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Lets hope not, because you look pretty stupid.
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Someone had to say it
And yes, 190fwhp sounds reasonable. What the RX-8 have for factory numbers anyway? I've gotten mixed things, everything from 200-230 hp. I'm thinking around 200 crank?
11-09-2005, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by archangelcomp
haha...i left it open. Great thing is...you dont know what I look like! :p
And yes, 190fwhp sounds reasonable. What the RX-8 have for factory numbers anyway? I've gotten mixed things, everything from 200-230 hp. I'm thinking around 200 crank?
And yes, 190fwhp sounds reasonable. What the RX-8 have for factory numbers anyway? I've gotten mixed things, everything from 200-230 hp. I'm thinking around 200 crank?
Most MTs have around 180whp, so probably in the area of 220chp... Still enough to beat a heavyass FWD car like the SL in any performance category, especially anything involving handling. Highway roll would be your best shot but the RX-8 would still pull a little.
Weeeeeeee, streetracing
11-09-2005, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
It has about the same 178-190 rwhp but it's 700lbs lighter.
11-09-2005, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
It has about the same 178-190 rwhp but it's 700lbs lighter.
11-09-2005, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The SL is heavy, but not that heavy. I think they weigh in the area of 3300-3500 depending on options, the VR-4 is 3800ish IIRC.
11-09-2005, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by archangelcomp
Yeah that 700lbs definitely makes a big difference. If only the damn things were lighter...they would be rediculously fast. Its weird though...I've driven both and a swear the SL has faster acceleration. Maybe just because its louder or something :p
11-09-2005, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
yeah the torque comes on much earlier then the 8 but then again what car doesn't.
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