IcemanVKO

The MS6 will be a pretty decent car. 280 lb of torque, 284 hp, peaks a little early in the RPM band, so there should be some decent upgrade options , like Nitrus that I would think could make it very competative on the Drag strip.

The Trany should be pretty tough also.

Only down side is its weight at 3500 lb's 400 lb's more than the 8. A price you pay for AWD, and the extra room.

smrx8

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Iam with you horse when i was shopping for a car i had 3 choices and looked at them all sti , evo and rx8 i fell in love with the rx8 looks and figure hey what the hell i can bump this cars hp with some good mods. thinking about the 7 in mind i bought it. i mean i still love the car but iam really dissapointed in the mods that are avaliable 3 to 4 hps and intake and exhaust thats sad. but hey we cant blame anyone but ourselfs . i will stick to my rx8 no matter what for now and see what comes out worth while. iam also thinking of porting my engine just need to find a good shop ,i had a bad experience already taking my car to a shop that didnt know crap.so for now iam researching and will go with a supercharger or a street port.

TORacing

Well now I am excited I got the greenlight to get the STi and keep my as well, so want be long till I'll have my STi hopefully. So know I got two projects, I feel like a real pro.

smrx8

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You Lucky Horse !!! :D

czr

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Cool, just like VikingDJ

army_rx8

i love the sti...evo is good but after you hit a point in performance practicly the whole drivetrain needs to be replaced..and engine needs to be rebuilt. lot of work if you ask me. NO idea how the sti's drive train is...dont' have any exsperience with them...just like how you can make them look...and awd imprezza's do kick some a$$. but i liek the look and feel of the rx-8 the best. teh rx-8 gives you a lot more confidence driving through the twistes than the evo or the sti IMO. :D

Icemastr

I think the WRX's have had more transmission issues then the Evolutions.

AbusiveWombat

I'm not sure where you're getting your information from but you're completely wrong. Sorry for being blunt. I own and EVO and am a regular member at evolutionm.net so I think I know my car and it's troubles. The EVO's drivetrain is extremely strong and easily handles 400+ whp. Even some of the big dogs in the country (500+whp) are running stock drivetrains (aside from a new clutch).

And where did you hear the engine needs to be rebuilt? Plenty of EVO owners are running 400+ with very basic mods: exhaust, intake, turbo, ic, AFC/piggyback/reflash, cams, and a bit of tuning. The stock internals are so strong that I can't remember ever hearing of owner replacing them....and it's certainly not a common topic at evom.

Currently the EVO is faster and cheaper to build into a drag car. It will likely remain that way since the STi's boxer engine is harder to work on, requires twice the cams, turbo is closer to being maxed out stock, and 6 speed requires an extra shift in the 1/4 mile.

army_rx8

ah no need to go medieval on my buttocks. LOL and you ask where do i get my information from? b/c i know the two people who have the fastest stock turbo evo's in the country. (one of them just upgraded his turbo). and i didn't say at what point the drivetrain went to ****. yes it can take 400..it can take more. hehe but becareful what confidence does...i've seen a transfer case explode and a rear diff disentagrate. the transfer case was not designed to takee a lot of launches at a drag strip (but what car is). i didn' tknock the evo just ...perhaps i should of thrown around hp numbers to make some people feel better or something. i dunno just saying that if he wants to make a super drag machine he's going to need to do a lot of work (i didn't include hp and when you need to replace or upgrade parts...b/c he didn't say what kinda' drag car he wants...what was the tiem he was aiming for etc etc)

oh but the rx-8 does give you more confidence (my opinion of course)..but i have drivin' some fast *** evo's lots of power that's for sure but the rx8 inspires confidence in it's drivers the evo you just seem to hold on

P.S. at 2500k his cllutch was gone...at 7k his engine was rebuilt...adn now at ~26k he is gonna be working on his tranny...but he has a stupid fast car:D

AbusiveWombat

Sorry, I reread your post and saw you didn't post any hp figures. I guess it depends on what level/time the poster is looking for. The EVO is pretty easy to get into the 11's but after that it's all uphill. A 2.0L 4 cyclinder can only do so much. IMO, if the poster is aiming for sub-11's then an '03 Cobra would be a much better choice.

Out of curiosity, how fast were the stock turbo EVO's?

93rdcurrent

I never ran my MR2 in a speed trap so I couldn't accurately give you the 1/4 mile times or 0-60s but I can say that 575 hp out of a solid 4 cyl. engine is very possible (expensive but possible). Getting down to the 11s isn't far off from there. Of course the Yamaha 3SGTE was a very solid 4 cyl. and I know little about EVOs powerplant.

army_rx8

AbusiveWombat the stock turbo evo's would run mid 11's pretty damn fast....only thing is the life of the turbo goes way down at that boost. but it's crazy fast. lol and a lot of torque ta boot, yes the cobra would be better fo rsub 11's..but talk about no fun to drive around the city/track an evo has some crazy good handeling as well. nice package for performance. but i loooove the rx-8...she's just eays to drive fast in the corners...haha the evo scared the crap out of me the first few turns...but it was no where near stock so that probable had something to do with it

shelleys_man_06

Are you rich or something? What were you looking for when you bought the RX-8? When I bought mine over a year ago, I knew it was going to be a long time before I see some serious horsepower gains. What ever floats your boat. Good luck.

mikeb

you are letting us down

J/K

Ike

The early WRXs had problem, but the STi tranny seems to be about as solid as they come.

TORacing

It has begun, the parts are in: ZEX wet nitrous kit, SR pulleys, SR HF CAT. I have started building a custom box for the ZEX kit, it's one badass setup. It should all be on by the end of the week!

93rdcurrent

Looking forward to seeing pics and descriptions. I'm not too far behind you but I gotta wait for spring.

Chrisbert

If you mod the 8 and wreck it (badly) you won't be covered on insurance for all your mods.

If you get the STi no worries.

Sumpin to think about.

93rdcurrent

Depends on the insurance policy and the receipts. Some will cover it.

Icemastr

And drop your insurance afterwards, or raise your rates even more. Or if you tell them you have mods same thing... its sad.

TORacing

I have a rolling insurance policy that follows my mods as I do them.

Ike

Out of curiosity how much more does that raise your premiums per month?

m477

Screw the STi, get a C5. You can get a slightly used Z06 for about the same price as a new STi, it has 100hp and 100tq more and less weight, and there are plenty of mods for the LSx engines. Plus the vette would probably be faster around a track.

93rdcurrent

And the kewl factor for owning one... :p

mikeb

what the hell is a rolling modifacition coverage

I need it badly