How Realistic is Gran Turismo 5?
05-13-2009, 10:20 AM
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Try driving the 8 in manual mode, also on pro mode to hit that 9k mark .
Ryoma-kun: If your having problems driving the 8, like Alfy and I mentioned before the 8 should not be that hard to drive. All i can recommend to you is practice.
Also if your running your car in pro mode, what set up are you using as far as springs,damper,rebound,camber, toe in/out, gearing etc? If you have messed with the settings , i recommend that you turn them back to your default mode and practice with the 8 as is.
The default RX-8 setup is very drivable as is, for me the only setting i messed with is the gearing and threw some stickier tires and I was pulling some incredible lap times with my semi modified RX-8 in the game.
Ryoma-kun: If your having problems driving the 8, like Alfy and I mentioned before the 8 should not be that hard to drive. All i can recommend to you is practice.
Also if your running your car in pro mode, what set up are you using as far as springs,damper,rebound,camber, toe in/out, gearing etc? If you have messed with the settings , i recommend that you turn them back to your default mode and practice with the 8 as is.
The default RX-8 setup is very drivable as is, for me the only setting i messed with is the gearing and threw some stickier tires and I was pulling some incredible lap times with my semi modified RX-8 in the game.
05-13-2009, 11:18 AM
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i see, then my next question would be, do you have Traction control , driving aid etc turned off?
i dotn know how the thing i mention makes the car react. because i have all aids turned off. quite curious though, think ill try them on when i geth ome.
never mind, i remember its impossibble to make the car slide if Traction is turned on. you most likely have it turned off.
i dotn know how the thing i mention makes the car react. because i have all aids turned off. quite curious though, think ill try them on when i geth ome.
never mind, i remember its impossibble to make the car slide if Traction is turned on. you most likely have it turned off.
Thanks for showing those pics, I was just about to link to that thread, great minds think alike! LOL!
Yeah NYCgps , your aids must be off or something, check them again.
But back on topic, thanks for that video dynamho! It really shows how GT5 is so darn close to real life. I don't know about you guys , but I WANT THAT PS3 with the engine cover on it! That is hot!
Yeah NYCgps , your aids must be off or something, check them again.
But back on topic, thanks for that video dynamho! It really shows how GT5 is so darn close to real life. I don't know about you guys , but I WANT THAT PS3 with the engine cover on it! That is hot!
05-13-2009, 11:27 AM
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I assume the problem y'all are having is not having the actual race wheel that goes with the game. since I have GT5 I can vouch for it and say that if you do lose the rear its a lot harder to gas it and just countersteer with the controller. I refuse to play the game again until I get the racing wheel mainly because of the fact you can't feel the car with the controller, it pisses me off when I lose the rear.
05-13-2009, 11:37 AM
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I assume the problem y'all are having is not having the actual race wheel that goes with the game. since I have GT5 I can vouch for it and say that if you do lose the rear its a lot harder to gas it and just countersteer with the controller. I refuse to play the game again until I get the racing wheel mainly because of the fact you can't feel the car with the controller, it pisses me off when I lose the rear.
05-13-2009, 12:07 PM
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i dont know what to say. this whole thread is done by a controller and not a wheel. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=159455
I am kinda speechless guys... the RX-8 is one of the easist cars to drive in that game. If you guys can't drive the RX-8, then please GOD tell me you can at least drive the 85 HP Cappacino?
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05-13-2009, 02:53 PM
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Yeah, RX-8 is one of the easiest car to drive. Though, when I am trying to get really fast lap times I tend to loose the back because there often is a rear wheel that ends up on the grass at the end of a turn as I get to the straight away.... grass + throttle = damn it! Can't recover all the time.
You should drive the BMW M3... that thing just loves getting the rear-end out which is so much fun when you're just lapping for fun (not when trying to get best times though...).
You should drive the BMW M3... that thing just loves getting the rear-end out which is so much fun when you're just lapping for fun (not when trying to get best times though...).
05-14-2009, 11:56 PM
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Are you sure your driving the car right? Properly braking before corners and feathering the gas on tight turns?When I drive it , I have no problem feeling one with the RX-8 in the game, I can run some pretty good lap times with it.
The RX-8 is one of the easiest cars in the game to drive fast IMO.
The RX-8 is one of the easiest cars in the game to drive fast IMO.
05-15-2009, 12:15 AM
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I disable everything and run on pro.. otherwise it's so boring. You just smash the throttle, steer and win. Though I have to admit, the high horsepower cars are quite a handful to handle. It takes a lot concentration to get right in the S races.
The tuned lotus is the worst car to drive. It's almost impossible. That thing is so light, you brake hard and if you have even any hint of steering or uneven weight shift you loose the back. That car has to be driven one input at a time. You have to tune that car really well for it to start being controllable.
The tuned lotus is the worst car to drive. It's almost impossible. That thing is so light, you brake hard and if you have even any hint of steering or uneven weight shift you loose the back. That car has to be driven one input at a time. You have to tune that car really well for it to start being controllable.
05-15-2009, 06:15 AM
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I disable everything and run on pro.. otherwise it's so boring. You just smash the throttle, steer and win. Though I have to admit, the high horsepower cars are quite a handful to handle. It takes a lot concentration to get right in the S races.
The tuned lotus is the worst car to drive. It's almost impossible. That thing is so light, you brake hard and if you have even any hint of steering or uneven weight shift you loose the back. That car has to be driven one input at a time. You have to tune that car really well for it to start being controllable.
The tuned lotus is the worst car to drive. It's almost impossible. That thing is so light, you brake hard and if you have even any hint of steering or uneven weight shift you loose the back. That car has to be driven one input at a time. You have to tune that car really well for it to start being controllable.
I have to look at my settings again, but I know I am running shy of the max hp, but she is tuned to turn very well. I always try to tune my rides for maximun balance(Hp and Handeling).
HEHE you mentioned about the high HP car being tuff to handle, have you tried the Ford GT race car on Suzuka? Don't even bother until you tune the suspension , once you do, that car is a blast to drive on Suzuka! Another killer is the Ferrari F40! On that car making the suspension soft as possible is the key to make her turn.Once you do its a very rewarding car to drive.
05-15-2009, 08:38 AM
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Really? I find the tuned Lotus to be a easy car to drive , granted I added a pound or two then tweaked the suspension and gearing to run hard on the Suzuka track which has every corner imaginable for a car to tackle. If you can run your car on the Suzuka track you can run it anywhere. And driving the tuned Lotus on that track is very exciting!
I have to look at my settings again, but I know I am running shy of the max hp, but she is tuned to turn very well. I always try to tune my rides for maximun balance(Hp and Handeling).
HEHE you mentioned about the high HP car being tuff to handle, have you tried the Ford GT race car on Suzuka? Don't even bother until you tune the suspension , once you do, that car is a blast to drive on Suzuka! Another killer is the Ferrari F40! On that car making the suspension soft as possible is the key to make her turn.Once you do its a very rewarding car to drive.
I have to look at my settings again, but I know I am running shy of the max hp, but she is tuned to turn very well. I always try to tune my rides for maximun balance(Hp and Handeling).
HEHE you mentioned about the high HP car being tuff to handle, have you tried the Ford GT race car on Suzuka? Don't even bother until you tune the suspension , once you do, that car is a blast to drive on Suzuka! Another killer is the Ferrari F40! On that car making the suspension soft as possible is the key to make her turn.Once you do its a very rewarding car to drive.
I agree with you daily. Lotus elise is one of the easiest cars to drive in that game. I am not sure what ppl are doing in the 2 best handing rwd cars in the game. I am not sure if they know they need to slow down before turns, are ppl trying to take 40mph turns at 90mph. are ppl just late braking and just blame it on the game themselves.
I am not trying to sound like a dick or anything, but when I hear all these ppl complain about the rx8, i can only laugh, because quite frankly it’s the hardest car to mess up in. now if they where saying the Ford GT LM car is hard to handle (but love it for drift mode), then I can see where they are coming from. But in a rx8, I just don’t see it. As for the lotus elise, its one of my favorites for racing, but I don’t think ppl understand that mid engine car is going to handle differently from a front engine car.
2 best trcks to master is suzuka and daytona (road track version) especially for drfiting. because you learn how to slow down while coming into a drift really fast , then at the end of the turn drfiting realllly slowly. pretty much you learn how to left foot brake.
one mistake i see alot while racing online is ppl braking at the last moment and they find them selves in the grass. what i do is, once the race starts i pull over to the side and let all the cars past me up, becausse i know in the first corner ill see about 95% of those guys in the grass. then its me against the other drivers who know how to pla, that race against each other. i can drift thru the whole race with the worst tire sets and still beat them. its because these guys dont know what slowing down means for a turn.
i tend to ask my self, would these guys do the same mistake if it was the real thing. so why do the opposite in the game? if it was a arcade type of sim like forza 2 , grid etc, then i can see where they can fix those mistakes. but GT has always been about being as real as possiable.
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05-15-2009, 10:38 AM
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I agree with you daily. Lotus elise is one of the easiest cars to drive in that game. I am not sure what ppl are doing in the 2 best handing rwd cars in the game. I am not sure if they know they need to slow down before turns, are ppl trying to take 40mph turns at 90mph. are ppl just late braking and just blame it on the game themselves.
I am not trying to sound like a dick or anything, but when I hear all these ppl complain about the rx8, i can only laugh, because quite frankly it’s the hardest car to mess up in. now if they where saying the Ford GT LM car is hard to handle (but love it for drift mode), then I can see where they are coming from. But in a rx8, I just don’t see it. As for the lotus elise, its one of my favorites for racing, but I don’t think ppl understand that mid engine car is going to handle differently from a front engine car.
2 best trcks to master is suzuka and daytona (road track version) especially for drfiting. because you learn how to slow down while coming into a drift really fast , then at the end of the turn drfiting realllly slowly. pretty much you learn how to left foot brake.
one mistake i see alot while racing online is ppl braking at the last moment and they find them selves in the grass. what i do is, once the race starts i pull over to the side and let all the cars past me up, becausse i know in the first corner ill see about 95% of those guys in the grass. then its me against the other drivers who know how to pla, that race against each other. i can drift thru the whole race with the worst tire sets and still beat them. its because these guys dont know what slowing down means for a turn.
i tend to ask my self, would these guys do the same mistake if it was the real thing. so why do the opposite in the game? if it was a arcade type of sim like forza 2 , grid etc, then i can see where they can fix those mistakes. but GT has always been about being as real as possiable.
I am not trying to sound like a dick or anything, but when I hear all these ppl complain about the rx8, i can only laugh, because quite frankly it’s the hardest car to mess up in. now if they where saying the Ford GT LM car is hard to handle (but love it for drift mode), then I can see where they are coming from. But in a rx8, I just don’t see it. As for the lotus elise, its one of my favorites for racing, but I don’t think ppl understand that mid engine car is going to handle differently from a front engine car.
2 best trcks to master is suzuka and daytona (road track version) especially for drfiting. because you learn how to slow down while coming into a drift really fast , then at the end of the turn drfiting realllly slowly. pretty much you learn how to left foot brake.
one mistake i see alot while racing online is ppl braking at the last moment and they find them selves in the grass. what i do is, once the race starts i pull over to the side and let all the cars past me up, becausse i know in the first corner ill see about 95% of those guys in the grass. then its me against the other drivers who know how to pla, that race against each other. i can drift thru the whole race with the worst tire sets and still beat them. its because these guys dont know what slowing down means for a turn.
i tend to ask my self, would these guys do the same mistake if it was the real thing. so why do the opposite in the game? if it was a arcade type of sim like forza 2 , grid etc, then i can see where they can fix those mistakes. but GT has always been about being as real as possiable.
05-15-2009, 12:09 PM
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I find the RX-8 very realistic in the game. It is forgiving and you can control your mistakes. I find it hard to even lose traction or control in the game (all aids off/prof) as well as in real life.
The Lotus can be touchy if you've grown used to the other heavier vehicles but once you smooth out/adjust your control inputs for the lightness it can lay down some very good lap times really easy. Lift-off throttle oversteer on something like the banks of Daytona at high speed is what will kill you in the Lotuses especially if you overcorrect of don't let the car sort out the loss of traction through the corner on it's own (but this generally goes for any light, mid-engined car).
Of course a wheel would be best (that will come for me when the full game actually comes out), but I like using the R3 (right joystick) for my throttle/brake as this gives you at least 45 degrees of angle to accurately moderate the gas/brake and you can even roll it around the sides when transitioning from braking to acceleration to get the least amount of throttle or brake input during tricky corners.
The Lotus can be touchy if you've grown used to the other heavier vehicles but once you smooth out/adjust your control inputs for the lightness it can lay down some very good lap times really easy. Lift-off throttle oversteer on something like the banks of Daytona at high speed is what will kill you in the Lotuses especially if you overcorrect of don't let the car sort out the loss of traction through the corner on it's own (but this generally goes for any light, mid-engined car).
Of course a wheel would be best (that will come for me when the full game actually comes out), but I like using the R3 (right joystick) for my throttle/brake as this gives you at least 45 degrees of angle to accurately moderate the gas/brake and you can even roll it around the sides when transitioning from braking to acceleration to get the least amount of throttle or brake input during tricky corners.
05-16-2009, 07:39 AM
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Hm I must be playing another game than you guys. I find the Ford GT so damn nice to drive while the Rx-8 is impossible. With the GT and proper throttle control, I can drift through nearly every corner but the 8 just ends up spinning out. Same goes for my friends. :|
05-16-2009, 07:52 AM
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i dont know but i need to buy a PS3 and buy this game....
Ive had all GT's before even GT1 with the 1000hp Mistubishi GTO, or was that GT2? I think GT1 and GT2 was the skyline and the Toyota race car (like the furai) that came in RED and one in Black, they had an HKS model, drag style and then GT3 i bought in a bundle package with PS2 and again..skyline was the fastest along with the suzuki rally car...hee hee, and then I pre-order GT4 before it even came out and then now im stuck...and again the skyline........I need a PS3.....crap!!
Ill pawn anyone in those games
Ive had all GT's before even GT1 with the 1000hp Mistubishi GTO, or was that GT2? I think GT1 and GT2 was the skyline and the Toyota race car (like the furai) that came in RED and one in Black, they had an HKS model, drag style and then GT3 i bought in a bundle package with PS2 and again..skyline was the fastest along with the suzuki rally car...hee hee, and then I pre-order GT4 before it even came out and then now im stuck...and again the skyline........I need a PS3.....crap!!
Ill pawn anyone in those games
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05-17-2009, 10:51 AM
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GT5 is definitely one of the better driving sims around. There are more realistic ones available for the PC, but in terms of "feeling" real enough while still being entertaining, it's the one I enjoy the most.
But to really get the most out of it, you need a good racing wheel, which in turn means a good driving seat, and - of course - a big screen and surround sound. Here's my set-up using a Logitech G25 wheel and a Playseat chair system. The TV is a 52" Sony W-series LCD with the sound running through some Paradigm speakers. The wheel includes paddle shifters as well as a switchable gear shift on the side that can be used in a fixed fore/aft toggle or as a true gated six-speed. You can also enable the clutch function in the game.
The view from the seat:
And finally, the RX-8 in the game definitely bounces off the rev-limiter at 9500 rpm just like the real thing:
Professional settings, no steering aids, manual transmission.
But to really get the most out of it, you need a good racing wheel, which in turn means a good driving seat, and - of course - a big screen and surround sound. Here's my set-up using a Logitech G25 wheel and a Playseat chair system. The TV is a 52" Sony W-series LCD with the sound running through some Paradigm speakers. The wheel includes paddle shifters as well as a switchable gear shift on the side that can be used in a fixed fore/aft toggle or as a true gated six-speed. You can also enable the clutch function in the game.
The view from the seat:
And finally, the RX-8 in the game definitely bounces off the rev-limiter at 9500 rpm just like the real thing:
Professional settings, no steering aids, manual transmission.
05-18-2009, 08:56 AM
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I have the same chair. I use it for Forza 2 though with a Microsoft wheel.
You can probably find a retailer from their official site:
http://playseats.biz/
I don't know where mine was bought since I got it in Christmas present from my fiance.
You can probably find a retailer from their official site:
http://playseats.biz/
I don't know where mine was bought since I got it in Christmas present from my fiance.
05-18-2009, 12:08 PM
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Once you have one, you can't go back to playing with the wheel clamped to a table or resting on your lap.
10-09-2009, 12:24 AM
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I would say GT5 is looking to be a very promising game. I've spent many many hours on Prologue, which has been **** on by others for being nothing more than a glorified demo. I got into the series kind of late, because I'd never had a playstation before this. I remember playing GT4 (I think) in Japan when the PS2 first came out, and I thought the replays looked like actual footage from races.
Anyways, I'd have to agree with the others that are wondering what's going on if you're having trouble controlling the RX-8. I ran lap times with a lot of the cars in my garage, and the RX-8 would always place times fairly close to the Z's. What the Z ate up on straights, the 8 could make up in the corners. Unfortunately, tuned Corvette Z06s and the Amuse S2k knocked both of them off the "top 10" list pretty quickly.
Would it be uber-nerdy to compare lap times on here? I'd be interested to see, for instance, how people on here compare with the same car/tires/track.
Anyways, I'd have to agree with the others that are wondering what's going on if you're having trouble controlling the RX-8. I ran lap times with a lot of the cars in my garage, and the RX-8 would always place times fairly close to the Z's. What the Z ate up on straights, the 8 could make up in the corners. Unfortunately, tuned Corvette Z06s and the Amuse S2k knocked both of them off the "top 10" list pretty quickly.
Would it be uber-nerdy to compare lap times on here? I'd be interested to see, for instance, how people on here compare with the same car/tires/track.
