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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Who cares about partial-throttle power?
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Well i don't drive around town with my foot planted to the floor all the time - how about you ?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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Haha, I think many people are familiar with this option. I know I had it on my high performance 100 hp Saturn. If I had the AC on and needed some extra power I would exclaim "hit the turbo boost, KITT" and press the AC button to turn it off. Haha, good times.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Anyone watch myth busters? You get better milage with your ac on than you do with your windows down.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stgenchevy
Anyone watch myth busters? You get better milage with your ac on than you do with your windows down.
Really? I didn't see that. Is it due to aerodynamic drag caused by the open windows?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
Oh, I have a question related to this matter. How much more gasoline is consumed when the AC is on?
Go watch mythbusters
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaMonkey
Go watch mythbusters
I wish I have cable... although, I did see one on the "Driving behind a big truck saves gas" episode
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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I wish I have cable also.......
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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^Yeah me too.

But what if you have the Underdrive Power Pulleys kit that take the wide belt? like the ones that SR claim +12 Would that take more away from your A/C? I men they are 45% lighter than stock pulleys!
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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This is something I REALLY like about the 8. My 02 Silverado (V6) would loose about 30% of it's power when the compressor was running, while I can only barely notice a difference in the 8.

It's more significant for me because it's dam near always summer in Houston..
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Haha, I think many people are familiar with this option. I know I had it on my high performance 100 hp Saturn. If I had the AC on and needed some extra power I would exclaim "hit the turbo boost, KITT" and press the AC button to turn it off. Haha, good times.
92 Ford Escort, I did the exact same thing, well without actually naming KITT.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Turn it off lol I like that one
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Once you hit a certain RPM the A/C shuts off to give you more power. Then it resumes as normal when the time comes.

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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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who the hell cares about the AC? just drive
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stgenchevy
Anyone watch myth busters? You get better milage with your ac on than you do with your windows down.
Only on the open highway at speeds fast enough for aerodynamics to become significant. In stop-and-go city driving, AC decreases mileage windows up or windows down.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jethro Tull
Only on the open highway at speeds fast enough for aerodynamics to become significant. In stop-and-go city driving, AC decreases mileage windows up or windows down.
True story. At low speeds, windows down is better. On the highway, AC is better.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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The formula is completely bogus.

An engine might make 232hp at a specfic RPM under full throttle, but it's not doing 17mpg then.

I don't recall what vehicle this was from, but to overcome friction and aerodynamic drag, parasitic losses in the drivetrain and other inefficiency factors, (ie energy made into heat vs maintiaing motion), required something like 15-20hp to keep the car going 55mph.

You can approximate the A/C load by finding it's ratings, often given in BTU's/hr. This is directly convertible to watts and/or horsepower. Then a typical compressor runs at some efficiency, probably pretty high.

Having done that, if it requires 15hp peak x 0.7 duty cycle to run it, I'm betting it won't cut your fuel economy by anything near what would be indicated by using a ratio method to compute. In other words, the ratio method to compute is so oversimplifed as to render it useless.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Some simple examples of the power required to keep a car moving at a constant rate, and then the energy required to keep it moving at that rate over time.

http://wps.aw.com/wps/media/objects/...cs/topic02.pdf
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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I can't believe this thread is still alive.

I was just curious about how much power it takes to actually drive the compressor. not if it's going to slow me down when driving or anything...
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