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Old 02-19-2009, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBurkeMan
^all you've done is proven a point. obviously this is something that didn't stick around because it wasn't a very good idea.

edit: you almost killed the thread with that one (hence the name thread killer)
As other's have said, there's only a limited market looking for something different. Just to put it into perspective... scion advertises as being "deviant". You can try to stay as true to your roots as you want, but there comes a point where you cant keep loosing money. The V6 stang sells. A lot of girls will go for stangs, and when daddy is going out to buy it for them, he doesnt see a point in buying them the V8 engine. And I'm rather sure if they got rid of the V6 all together they would loose way too many sales than what could be made up for in V8 sales.

I like the changes I'm seeing in some of these company line-ups. If I recall correctly, ford was considering a twin-turbo V6 mustang... I would actually consider that, while I have no interest in the current V6 or GT.
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The V6 Mustang is huge for the rental car industry.
Old 02-19-2009, 09:49 PM
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hell the 6 cyl has been in the Mustang since 64 1/2- its always been there. and why not an ecoboost 4? Power of a 6 cyl with MPG of the 4.
Old 02-19-2009, 10:31 PM
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another thing i like about ford is that they arent looking for government money to get them out of this mess. They are using the free market and making their own decisions for their own future success.
GM in the other hand will end up like the banking industry, having uncle sam making the big decisions for the company. (at least until GM pays all that money back) which could mean no SS camaro!! and whats going to happen with the corvette?

dare i say hybrid corvette?

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Old 02-20-2009, 06:38 AM
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I drought you will see any changes to the Corvette. I think it pays it's own way. It is America's only mass produced Supercar. And it's cheap for a car of that category.
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I honestly believe Chevy would not ax there SS Camaro, just like there not ax'ing the Z-06 or the ZR-1 anytime soon. What I can see them doing is releasing a small volume of SS Camaro's to the public to save cost instead of axing the "SS" badge all together.

The reason i strongly feel this way, Chevy just sent me there press release package of the limited edition C6-R championship Corvette package that will be released this spring of '09. The package is for all the Corvettes except the ZR-1.
600 cars will be released to the public in yellow and black, or black on black paint schemes.

Its in honor of the C6-R dominating the GT1 class in ALMS, 5 time winner of the 24 hours de' lemans, and also this is the last year that the C6-R is running in the GT1 class.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by YaXMaNGTO
What the hell? No, the Camaro SS isn't impacted at all. Read.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=142386
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love the new camaro
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Originally Posted by TheBurkeMan
...GM has been a dominate company for many years now, i dont think a little bump in the road needs something as drastic as a whole company redesign...
Dude this ain't a "little bump in the road" for GM. This is like a collapsed bridge over a rising river. Once you take into consideration the situation with the UAW that river becomes the Pacific Ocean. It hurts me to say it but I don't think it will ever change at GM. My vote is for economic Darwinism: bankruptcy.
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Originally Posted by JRichter
As much as I used to hate Ford, I think they actually are really trying to completely turn things around here lately and could be in a much better position than GM at this point - Mustangs/Camaros aside.



I agree but does the V6 'Stang still out sell the V8 version by a large margin? Like 70% are V6 from what I've seen. From what I understand it's the money maker. I can see Ford easily making a modern 4-banger that would completely blow away the crap V6 that's currently in the base Mustang right now in all aspects but still agree - a muscle car should have muscle. Fords needs to focus its performance development on sporty small cars like the Ford's the Europeans get and still offer a good V8 Mustang for the one's into that sort of thing. Problem is I think so many Mustangs are sold because it's a Mustang regardless of what's under the hood but that fact there is a V8 one probably helps carry those sales.
The contour/mondeo is proof that ford could make more well-balanced competitive cars
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