Cattywampus

Bike cops have a job just for that reason. That's all they do. I don't agree with some of the tickets they write but I can't say anything about it.

jaehyun127

police34, i disagree with most of your statements. although some laws are there for a reson, some are absolutley absurd. come the end of the month, cops here (long island) are at every corner looks to give out bs tickets b/c they didn't meet their quota.

i've gotten a bs NO front license plate ticket b/c i've only had one screw holding it, it ws rattling, so i took it off that morning and put it on the front windshield... it was clearly visible, but he decides to give me a ticket anyway. it was for $125.

However, many other cars here drive without license plates and it seems to be ok.

Also, cops are extremely biased. if they pull over a "hot" girl, or any girl - they seem to let it slide. my sister has been pulled over for numerous occasions, "fake cry" and badaboom... they're free to go. that's bs.

lastly, i've seen MANY cops' cars (young cops), and they have a lot of things illegal... too low, tints too dark, loud exhaust, and i guarantee you, they've never seen a ticket.

ONE LAST NOTE. we have these things called PBA cards, pins, etc... (POLICE BENEVOLENCE ASSOCIATION) and if you show the car, or show the PIN, if you want to go extreme, even if you're doing 110mph on a 55mph, the cops let you go b/c you're a friend of a cop or a son of a cop, or anything

i have a friend who's dad's a detective, speeds like a maniac in his jeep or dad's xj8 (jaguar), and he's never seen a ticket...

that's absolute trash.

Morgan

yea...i want those cards here...

I disagree with the whole hot chick comment though. Maybe its just because i'm a horrible fake cryer, and both times i got pulled over i couldn't pull it off....but i'd like to think i'm not ugly, and i still got slammed with a nice ticket, a laugh in the face and a threatening to move it up one MPH to the next price...

SOME cops will let chicks go...but they will also let some guys go. Sure there will always be a biased, but at the same time, if a chick pulls over a hot guy, it works the same way right?

Ike

When I reffered to tax dollars I was more thinking of the whole process of going to court to show that tickets were not justified. As for my calls, it's hard to say, one involved a drunk driver hitting my girlfriend's parker car and leaving his license plate in the process, another involved the crackhead friend of someone that broke into my car coming to my house and trying to sell me my stuff back. He told me he would be back in 30 minutes with my things so I called the police. In both cases a squad never responded when I was told there would be on sent right out. After giving my statement over the phone and following up on it there was no record of either report days later. In both cases I prettymuch handed the police a reckless drunk driver (had two witnesses and a license plate) and a drug addict thief (had his name address saw his ID and he even told me he would talk to the police about his friend) and they did absolutely nothing.

I also don't believe for a second that police don't pick and choose who they harass or ticket. There is a notorious speed track in a town about 20 minutes from me, squads line up sometimes 5 in a row and pull speeders over on a strip of highway. The only people they pullover are coming from Illinoise, they will never setup on the other entrance rap going south towards IL. Also if you take a look at the average car that is pulled over it becomes pretty clear that police in my area at least are not going after your average middle-upper middleclass person, they clearly target certain demographics.

Morgan

hi..i'm naked

jaehyun127

naked is always good.. random though

however, in my area (high Mid class), the only people i ever see pulled over, sorry to say, are hispanics, and blacks... i've never seen a jew or asian pulled over in this area. Only ricers and other "iced" out cars... it's a shame

and i have my friends who speed along all the time.... nvm, i get pulled over too, so as for cops, i am very very very not favorable to them.

when i went to the police station to ask about my license plate ticket, they basicaly shoo'ed me away...

pathetic really.

Morgan

well nobody seems to read my post's unless they're in the lounge...so i was seeing if anyone was paying attention.

but yea...during cinco de mayo night there were 105829074281+1 cops out on the road...it was NUTTY! They wer nailing people for like 6 over...i was thinking,"uhh, shouldn't ya'll be down town stopping the fights and drunk driving?"

Ike

TTIUWP! :p

Cattywampus

Well you might want to disagree but a fact is a fact. Maybe you disagree because you don't know what goes on in an agency. Why you disagree I don't know. Now, your comment about quotas. In Fla it is illegal to have quotas. Every state I know of it's illegal. People think cops have quotas. They don't. Second if you didn't challenge the no license plate ticket you should have. Only 1 screw holding it on is bs to write a ticket on. Also, you comment about girls getting off because they cry, you don't know that for sure. Every hot girl that has been pulled over 9 times out of 10 will get a warning or ticket because of liability issues. She can easily say he pulled me over to check me out, look at my breasts, get my number, etc. that's why ''hot'' girls get tickets. It's called C.Y.A. (cover your a$$). Maybe that can help you reconsider what you disagree with.

Cattywampus

I guess what we are getting mixed up is your area is different than mine law wise. I know what your saying about you issues with them not coming. I now know what you menat by your tax dollars being wasted. Hell, if they don't want to come and assist you, you feel you shouldn't have to pay for what your not getting. I agree. It's not like that hear. Some calls don't get answered to right away. But you get you service. But not every cop is like that. Is you local agency a big agency?

Cattywampus

Are you serious. You ALWAYS see blacks and hispanics being pulled over. Do you go on every traffic stop? This is what makes law enforcement worse. These comments. Do you know exactly what a jew looks like while driving by a traffic stop? Do you know exactly what a hispanic looks like whils passing a traffic stop? Just because a cop pulls over a black or hispanic doesn't mean they are guilty of something.

raji

better late than never.

I'm of the opinion that street racing is kind of silly, so i would never participate as a driver or a spectator. However, the measures described in the originating post seem absurd to me. It's taking things too far. Granted, something needs to be done if drugs and guns are getting into things, but for regular racing, the punishment should be more mild. Proportionally, i'm willing to bet that street racers don't kill nearly as many people as the average everyday stupidity that plagues the streets of ANY country.

My solution to this entire problem along with other restrictions on the roads is something i've been wanting to share for some time. Maybe someone will actually read this...

After the regular driver's license tests (parallel parking, 3-point turns, etc), you take willing drivers to a road course that has a healthy dose of chicanes, hairpin turns, sweeping curves, ups and downs and everything in between. Small fee to participate of course. You get some qualified person to decide on a set of lap times that separate people into classes of licenses. Based on the class or category the person falls into, you decide what that driver can and cannot do on the road. Category A drivers (top drivers) get to drive over the speed limit in any given situation by X amount of MPH. Category F drivers are the ones that either passed on the option to follow the program, or are the ones that are so utterly retarded on the road that they shouldn't be allowed to ever drive while speaking on a cell phone, drinking coffee, putting on make-up or break the speed limit. Category F drivers don't get to have any fun and make room for the Category A drivers. That way, when a cop sees an EVO and an STi chasing one another down the freeway doing 110MPH, he'll look up the license plates and go "damn, they're Cat. A drivers..." and leaves them be.

Ike

No offense, but that's a horrible idea.

jaehyun127

horrible idea -- but would be cool though.. haha

and police34, am i stereotyping... in a bit. but don't say that my comments are what makes law enforcement worse b/c that's what i see. do i know what a hispanic/blacks generally look like? yes - generally i do. And i live in an area where the general population is jewish, and i've yet to see a white person pulled over... sad really.

also - what's so bad about what i said?

Morgan

yyea i agree....REALLY bad i dea..but would be neat...sadly, most evo and sti drivers probably wouldn't be able to make the A class license..

raji

out of curiosity, why is the idea so bad? I've been told that it was, but never any explanations to point out why.

N8theGr8

I know its been said before but why don't they just make more tracks? Tracks that open at night and cater to the specific needs of street racing?

In my area and most areas skateboarding turned into a real problem. Kids were using the drive-in curbs at banks and spots in parking lots creating problems for businesses, destruction of private property, and compromising the safety of the kids. Finally the ol' lightbulb went off with someone at the Park's and Recreations department and agencies started building skate parks. I see them everywhere now, and they offer much much more than a bank or a parking lot. And most importantly I don't see the kids out on private property anymore. The skate parks are filled.

There are plenty of shut down airports and other areas to make this happen, and why not make it "street racer specific"? I understand there is that appealing danger that can only be created with actual street racing, but maybe if the resources were available racers would think twice?

Cattywampus

Saying that cops in your area always pull over blacks and hispanics and never jew and asians is a prejudice comment. Maybe we have different thinking because of careers.I am going to try and put this in an easy form for you to understand. You say your area is mostly jewish, if an area is populated by jewish would you think that a few blacks and hispanics in your area would be odd? Something that doesn't seem right or fit for the area can be seen as reasonable suspicion. Anyway that isn't what this thread is about. Stret racing is going to be looked at very hard before a car is taken away. Just because someone ''races'' on a street doesn't mean their car will be taken away. There will be more factors that play into that.

Cattywampus

Good post. I agree

No More Oldsmobiles

Hahhahhah.









(but did you try crying, too?)

Chrisbert

Since when does a US citizen get arrested for witnessing a crime? So, if I'm driving down the road and see a street race I should close my eyes?

chrism

yes close them quickly because if you see it your a criminal!....this is insane...especially if your taking cars away....what happens if im racing and i get caught....i still have several years to pay my car off...you think if i cant have it im gonna make any payments?!?....they cant take personal property away unless its used in a major federal crime such as murder....and street racing aint even close to that level of offense....i agree with taking it to the track but then again im not going to stop driving spirited either....i dont make a habit of it but if some one gets silly with me i will get silly back....jaehyun127 also has a point about profiling cuz it happens every where.....the state that im in was probably one of the most publicized because of police antics of the parkway and turnpike...im not saying all cops are bad but there are a ton of them out there that abuse their power.....i have several friends that are cops here in jersey and they tell me horror stories...police34 im sure your a decent cop but i can almost certainly tell you that your in the minority.....i have encountered many more bad apples than good ones....and im not even talking about getting myself in trouble...im talking on a personal note

Morgan

sadly..i TRIED to cry...but couldn't shed a tear. i'm just a bad faker....

mikeb

its not like that

you can get in trouble if you are posted up sitting or standing watching them.
its not if you just drive by or see one by mistake or accident

Cattywampus

Hey man I don't disagree with your whole post but the majority of this is ridiculous. First off they are not going to confiscate a car for just speeding down the road with another car. It's street races that are set up events. Second law enforcement can confiscate your car for this act. Your correct in saying they should make more tracks. I think they hould aswell. Wehn you say if someone gets ''silly'' with you then you get ''silly'' right back in immature. That is what leads to reckless driving, jail time, big fines, and license suspensions. Some cops are d!cks. What can you do. Driving is a privilege not a right. Follow the laws of the road and you'll be fine. I think.