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DailyTech - Supreme Court Kills E15 Protest, Greenlights Lower MPG, Destroyed Engines

and when they eventually make this a "requirement", we gonna get like what, 10 mpg per gallon ? and our fuel related item will burst/break every 2 yrs from this ? *shurgs*


corn ... maybe I should start my own corn farm !

 

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU...........

Will it be advertised which pumps have E15? As opposed to the E10 we have now?

 

it will

but the problem is, 99% of us do NOT want this ****.

worst mpg
cost more
kills engines and related parts
raise food prices

but the biggest problem is ...

it Pollutes MORE than fossil fuel !

what the fu ... seriously .

 

E15 Do's and Don't's and sticker warning

E15: Frequently Asked Questions | E15 (a blend of gasoline and ethanol) | Fuels & Fuel Additives | US EPA

My pondering is, if they have stickers to warn against using this fuel in certain applications, then they should *SENSIBLY* have other pumps for motor vehicles that can't use the fuel - AKA older E10 pumps. So I'll be sticking to those if they're still around...

 

You seriously think the general us public will be smart enough to be able to tell the difference?

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Time for me to buy a Tesla, i hope i get an employee discount....

 

I didn't say anything about the public? But so long as there's a warning, that pump can be avoided for now.

 

 

UGH utter stupidity will kill more than just our cars -_-
Our government for ya yet we the public lets them do this ****............... unfortunate

 

Seriously, wtf man.

 

GREENPEACE : YEA ! Go Green! hurraayyy ! even if that **** release more poisonous gas ... oh wait, GO GREEN !

Corn Farmer/Lobbyist : YEa! GO GREEN! OH YEAH ! screw food grade corn! it's time to rape the public cuz we're protected by our buddies in the gov ! YEA !

Auto industies : ok, this sucks, we might have to eat some of the warranty cost cuz all these sour garbage eating our product's fuel lines and engines alive. but meh, No biggie actually, we just raise the prices of our current and future vehicle !!!

Public/Poor us : higher food prices, more poisonous air, less mpg, higher priced gas, higher price car, easier car break downs. YAY!

 

Lucky for me there are a couple local stations that add 0 ethanol.

 

What in the world...this thing sucks!

 

We're doomed... voided warranties, higher food cost, crappy gas mileage... We really need to go to the streets and protest this BS. Maybe do something along the matters of this?

 

We should really do something like that, not just us, ALL motorist should do it. seriously, it's time to tell those ****** lobbyist and those who happily took their "donations" a big fat NO.

 

I own 40 acres of land in Louisiana used to farm sugar cane. I received a form a couple of yrs back to receive possible tax breaks when/if sugar cane receives bio-fuel status.
Hopefully, sugar cane can cut into the amount of corn needed for ethanol.
Brazil already has a large sugar cane bio-fuel program.

 

I thought Congress passed a law to stop funding the EPA as the EPA is regulating the air quality and economy and that what congress is supposed to do.

Congress has the authority to regulate air and water quality. Not some puppet behind a desk.

I use to get 42.5 plus MPG now I only get 36 MPG on my motorcycle.

That's a 15% cut in fuel milage. This makes a Gold Wing impracticle to ride as a daily drive as cars get 40MPG plus now. You have to replace tires every 10K on a motorcycle.

 

I remember the color of the air before the EPA. Nothing against brown, but yuck!

 

Maybe there's hope?

"Ethanol is insane, and politicians outside the Beltway are finally fighting it."

Renewable Fuel Standard repeal: How states are chipping away at the corn lobby’s hold on our energy policy. - Slate Magazine

 

I'm a liberal-ish Illinoisian and even I hate the idea of increasing ethanol use. I'm fine with replacing MTBE with ethanol because MTBE is awful stuff but the rest of this is stupid. I wish there was a way we could just press the mute button on ADM every time they bring up ethanol.

"Hang on, I got an idea. Lets BURN our food!!!"

I wish they'd take the entirety of ethanol funding and just throw it at LFTR/MSR research.

 

Are they still using MTBE out there? I haven't seen that since the mid 90s.

 

The only thing I find to be extremely funny is that they're pushing ethanol as a "cleaner" fuel when in fact it isn't.

 

Dam. Well that sucks im down to protest this sum bs

 

In the U.S. (at least on the west coast) as far as I know ethanol is not shipped down the pipeline and is shipped by train (fuel being burned with emissions.) Then when it arrives at the destination a lot of the times it is loaded onto trucks to be delivered to the tank farms (more emissions and fuel being burned for a product that is supposed to cut emissions.)

 

Well, pure ethanol does typically combust "cleaner" than the hydrocarbon soup we call gasoline. However, it's typically billed as a "clean" (rather than "cleaner) fuel and nothing that involves combustion in the awful, non-ideal environment inside an engine is going to be clean.