Clarkson Reviews the Evo X!
04-27-2008, 04:15 PM
#1
Evolution Theory
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Clarkson Reviews the Evo X!
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle3812271.ece
Having my photograph taken has always been like having extensive root-canal work done on my soul. I hate it with an unbridled passion. A photograph of me serves as a permanent reminder of the simple fact that I am just a stomach and a very large chin with a small piece of wire wool growing out of the top.
Unfortunately these days everyone has a camera phone, so everyone has become an amateur paparazzo. And that means I have my photograph taken about four hundred million times a day.
I understand why, of course. If you could get a snap of Cliff Richard mowing his lawn, then – ker-ching! – I bet it’d be worth a grand. If you could get a Formula One boss having his hair checked for lice by a girl dressed up as a Belsen inmate, you might even be able to afford a new car.
Of course there are drawbacks. First of all you have to have the morals of a woodlouse, and second you might drive your prey to crash into a tunnel. But that doesn’t seem to be stopping anyone.
Background
* Test: Jeremy Clarkson: Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo-R
* Mitsubishi Evo VIII
* Mitsubishi Evo IX
* Mitsubishi Warrior
* Mitsubishi Colt review
Background
* Mitsubishi Outlander
Just recently I was snapped by a member of the public while driving along the M40. He claimed the snap showed I was using my mobile. My phone records prove that I wasn’t but, no matter, he sold the picture to the Mirror. It ran it on the front page and as a result the young man probably earned enough to buy himself and his girlfriend a slap-up meal at the local Harvester.
On holiday this year someone took a picture of me going snorkelling. And because it showed a chin and a stomach in a face mask the Mirror bought this one too, paying the lensman enough for him to buy himself a jolly nice piña colada.
Now it’s open season. Some kid took a picture of me while I was asleep, and when I told him to eff off his dad went immediately, you’ve guessed it, to the Mirror. It’s got to the point where my wife never actually bothers to ring and ask where I am. She just looks in the redtops.
I’m thinking of cashing in myself; maybe I’ll sell them a picture of me checking my prostate.
It’s at its worst, though, when I’m imprisoned by a flash and noticeable car. Recently I drove my Lamborghini from Guildford to Chipping Norton. It’s about 90 miles and I had my picture taken 107 times. I counted. This meant I couldn’t use the phone or pick my nose or break the speed limit or sing along to the radio or even, on the straight bits, catch forty winks. It was so wearisome that when I got home I sold the car.
And I can assure you that I most definitely will not replace it with a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X FQ-360. Because, I swear to God, you couldn’t get more attention even if you were Jade Goody and you stood on a bridge over the M1 motorway and had full sex with a cow.
Now if you’re looking at the picture above, wondering why such a vulgar little thing could possibly cause anyone to look twice, then you know nothing about cars and frankly you’d be better off reading about something else.
If on the other hand you do know about cars, then you will also not be very interested to hear what the Evo is like. Because when it comes to four-wheel-drive turbo cars for the PlayStation generation, all eyes are currently on the Nissan GT-R – the most eagerly anticipated new arrival since God stuck a pin in a map and decided on Bethlehem.
The fact is, though, that the Nissan is going to be upwards of £50,000, about 15 grand more than the little Itchypussy. And I’m sorry but I cannot see, with the current laws of physics in place, how it can possibly be that much better.
The previous nine Evos were always exquisite to drive, nicer even than their great rivals from Subaru. But they were also woefully flimsy, stylistically challenged and hard to the point of hopelessness. For one lap of the Nürburgring, you’d use an Evo every time. For the journey home, you’d take the Scooby-Doo.
Now, though, everything has changed. The new Subaru is about as much fun as a church service. And it doesn’t look good in photographs because, like me, it doesn’t look good at all. I’ve seen more attractive things in medical books.
The Evo X, on the other hand, looks fab. Peel away the bulges and all that carbon fibre flotsam and jetsam – all of which gives other road users an impression that for you driving may be a hobby, like trainspotting – and the basic shape is very good. And then . . . Oh. My. God. There’s the way it drives.
I fear I may have to get a bit technical here. When you turned into a corner in an old Evo, initially there’d be a dribble of dreary understeer. In a normal car this is a speed-scrubbing health and safety warning that soon there will be ambulances and fire but in the Mitsubishi it was simply a portal through which you had to pass to get at the car’s heart and soul.
The heart and soul in question was its ability to remain composed and absolutely controllable in a lairy, tyre-smoking four-wheel drift. No other car I’d driven was able to do this, even slightly. It was exquisite.
The new car is even better because when you turn into a corner it’s the back that steps out of line. This means that even the portal through which you must pass to get at the meat and veg is full of hair-tingling joy.
Of course there are lots of buttons you can press to make the handling different but those are for geeks and bores. All I can report is that the basics of this car – the core – are monumentally, toweringly, eye-wateringly brilliant.
Then there’s the speed. Yes, a Ferrari 430 is full of brio and passion but get an Evo X on your tail and I guarantee that, unless it’s being driven by a complete spanner, you will not be able to shake it off.
And now comes the really good news. When you have finished at the track, the ride home is not bad either. Certainly it is way softer than the Evos of old, much more comfortable. Also, the X doesn’t require a service every 300 yards. And it’s garnished with higher-quality plastics as well. Oh, and I nearly forgot. It has the single best touchscreen central command sat nav system I’ve found in any car. It’ll even give you the average speed, in a graph, of each of your past 20 journeys.
And of course it’s got four doors, seating for five and a boot, which despite the fitting of a Grateful Dead bass speaker was still large enough last night to accommodate my daughter’s back-to-school requirements.
There are, however, some drawbacks that you might like to consider before signing your name on the dotted line in dribble.
First of all, it has only a five-speed gearbox. This means that on the motorway the all-new super-light 2.0 litre turbo engine becomes awfully drony. It’s like listening to Alistair Darling make a speech. And, worse, because there’s no cruising gear the fuel consumption is dreadful.
That’s bad in any car but when the tank is only the size of a Zippo, you will struggle to do 200 miles between fill-ups.
Almost certainly, then, you’d be better off with the less powerful but more economical FQ-300. I tried this too and missed the savage acceleration. But I liked the twin-clutch six-speed flappy-paddle gearbox, which is not available on the 360. Furthermore it has the same top speed and it’s at least £6,000 cheaper. Of the two, this is the one I’d buy.
Unfortunately, however, I can’t. I’d become fed up with the flotilla of camera-toting rats more quickly than I became fed up with the never-ending trips to the pumps.
Happily, my wife has come to the rescue. She’s going to buy one and, being an organised soul, will keep it topped up with fuel. This means that when it’s dark and all the Mirror readers are in the pub fighting, I can take it out for a little drive. It’ll serve as a constant reminder of what cars can, and should, be like.
Vital statistics
Model Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ-360 GSR
Engine 998cc turbo, four cylinders
Power 1 354bhp @ 6500rpm
Torque 363 lb ft @ 3200rpm
Transmission Five-speed manual
Fuel 19.9mpg (combined)
CO2 328g/km
Performance 0-62mph: 4.1sec/Top speed:155mph
Price £37,999
Road tax band G (£400 a year)
On sale Now
Verdict Eye-wateringly brilliant
All hail the new Evo.
Having my photograph taken has always been like having extensive root-canal work done on my soul. I hate it with an unbridled passion. A photograph of me serves as a permanent reminder of the simple fact that I am just a stomach and a very large chin with a small piece of wire wool growing out of the top.
Unfortunately these days everyone has a camera phone, so everyone has become an amateur paparazzo. And that means I have my photograph taken about four hundred million times a day.
I understand why, of course. If you could get a snap of Cliff Richard mowing his lawn, then – ker-ching! – I bet it’d be worth a grand. If you could get a Formula One boss having his hair checked for lice by a girl dressed up as a Belsen inmate, you might even be able to afford a new car.
Of course there are drawbacks. First of all you have to have the morals of a woodlouse, and second you might drive your prey to crash into a tunnel. But that doesn’t seem to be stopping anyone.
Background
* Test: Jeremy Clarkson: Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo-R
* Mitsubishi Evo VIII
* Mitsubishi Evo IX
* Mitsubishi Warrior
* Mitsubishi Colt review
Background
* Mitsubishi Outlander
Just recently I was snapped by a member of the public while driving along the M40. He claimed the snap showed I was using my mobile. My phone records prove that I wasn’t but, no matter, he sold the picture to the Mirror. It ran it on the front page and as a result the young man probably earned enough to buy himself and his girlfriend a slap-up meal at the local Harvester.
On holiday this year someone took a picture of me going snorkelling. And because it showed a chin and a stomach in a face mask the Mirror bought this one too, paying the lensman enough for him to buy himself a jolly nice piña colada.
Now it’s open season. Some kid took a picture of me while I was asleep, and when I told him to eff off his dad went immediately, you’ve guessed it, to the Mirror. It’s got to the point where my wife never actually bothers to ring and ask where I am. She just looks in the redtops.
I’m thinking of cashing in myself; maybe I’ll sell them a picture of me checking my prostate.
It’s at its worst, though, when I’m imprisoned by a flash and noticeable car. Recently I drove my Lamborghini from Guildford to Chipping Norton. It’s about 90 miles and I had my picture taken 107 times. I counted. This meant I couldn’t use the phone or pick my nose or break the speed limit or sing along to the radio or even, on the straight bits, catch forty winks. It was so wearisome that when I got home I sold the car.
And I can assure you that I most definitely will not replace it with a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X FQ-360. Because, I swear to God, you couldn’t get more attention even if you were Jade Goody and you stood on a bridge over the M1 motorway and had full sex with a cow.
Now if you’re looking at the picture above, wondering why such a vulgar little thing could possibly cause anyone to look twice, then you know nothing about cars and frankly you’d be better off reading about something else.
If on the other hand you do know about cars, then you will also not be very interested to hear what the Evo is like. Because when it comes to four-wheel-drive turbo cars for the PlayStation generation, all eyes are currently on the Nissan GT-R – the most eagerly anticipated new arrival since God stuck a pin in a map and decided on Bethlehem.
The fact is, though, that the Nissan is going to be upwards of £50,000, about 15 grand more than the little Itchypussy. And I’m sorry but I cannot see, with the current laws of physics in place, how it can possibly be that much better.
The previous nine Evos were always exquisite to drive, nicer even than their great rivals from Subaru. But they were also woefully flimsy, stylistically challenged and hard to the point of hopelessness. For one lap of the Nürburgring, you’d use an Evo every time. For the journey home, you’d take the Scooby-Doo.
Now, though, everything has changed. The new Subaru is about as much fun as a church service. And it doesn’t look good in photographs because, like me, it doesn’t look good at all. I’ve seen more attractive things in medical books.
The Evo X, on the other hand, looks fab. Peel away the bulges and all that carbon fibre flotsam and jetsam – all of which gives other road users an impression that for you driving may be a hobby, like trainspotting – and the basic shape is very good. And then . . . Oh. My. God. There’s the way it drives.
I fear I may have to get a bit technical here. When you turned into a corner in an old Evo, initially there’d be a dribble of dreary understeer. In a normal car this is a speed-scrubbing health and safety warning that soon there will be ambulances and fire but in the Mitsubishi it was simply a portal through which you had to pass to get at the car’s heart and soul.
The heart and soul in question was its ability to remain composed and absolutely controllable in a lairy, tyre-smoking four-wheel drift. No other car I’d driven was able to do this, even slightly. It was exquisite.
The new car is even better because when you turn into a corner it’s the back that steps out of line. This means that even the portal through which you must pass to get at the meat and veg is full of hair-tingling joy.
Of course there are lots of buttons you can press to make the handling different but those are for geeks and bores. All I can report is that the basics of this car – the core – are monumentally, toweringly, eye-wateringly brilliant.
Then there’s the speed. Yes, a Ferrari 430 is full of brio and passion but get an Evo X on your tail and I guarantee that, unless it’s being driven by a complete spanner, you will not be able to shake it off.
And now comes the really good news. When you have finished at the track, the ride home is not bad either. Certainly it is way softer than the Evos of old, much more comfortable. Also, the X doesn’t require a service every 300 yards. And it’s garnished with higher-quality plastics as well. Oh, and I nearly forgot. It has the single best touchscreen central command sat nav system I’ve found in any car. It’ll even give you the average speed, in a graph, of each of your past 20 journeys.
And of course it’s got four doors, seating for five and a boot, which despite the fitting of a Grateful Dead bass speaker was still large enough last night to accommodate my daughter’s back-to-school requirements.
There are, however, some drawbacks that you might like to consider before signing your name on the dotted line in dribble.
First of all, it has only a five-speed gearbox. This means that on the motorway the all-new super-light 2.0 litre turbo engine becomes awfully drony. It’s like listening to Alistair Darling make a speech. And, worse, because there’s no cruising gear the fuel consumption is dreadful.
That’s bad in any car but when the tank is only the size of a Zippo, you will struggle to do 200 miles between fill-ups.
Almost certainly, then, you’d be better off with the less powerful but more economical FQ-300. I tried this too and missed the savage acceleration. But I liked the twin-clutch six-speed flappy-paddle gearbox, which is not available on the 360. Furthermore it has the same top speed and it’s at least £6,000 cheaper. Of the two, this is the one I’d buy.
Unfortunately, however, I can’t. I’d become fed up with the flotilla of camera-toting rats more quickly than I became fed up with the never-ending trips to the pumps.
Happily, my wife has come to the rescue. She’s going to buy one and, being an organised soul, will keep it topped up with fuel. This means that when it’s dark and all the Mirror readers are in the pub fighting, I can take it out for a little drive. It’ll serve as a constant reminder of what cars can, and should, be like.
Vital statistics
Model Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ-360 GSR
Engine 998cc turbo, four cylinders
Power 1 354bhp @ 6500rpm
Torque 363 lb ft @ 3200rpm
Transmission Five-speed manual
Fuel 19.9mpg (combined)
CO2 328g/km
Performance 0-62mph: 4.1sec/Top speed:155mph
Price £37,999
Road tax band G (£400 a year)
On sale Now
Verdict Eye-wateringly brilliant
All hail the new Evo.
04-27-2008, 05:32 PM
#3
Boosted!!!
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Puerto Rïco
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I agree that it is 10 times better than the subaru, yet I would never buy one. Yes the looks call up attention but then again its just 4 humps (one on each whell well) and a big spoiler away from looking exactly like a regular Lancer GTS. I liked that even though the other ones had a hint of resemblance they were different. Now you can hardly tell the difference from afar. Same thing happens with the subby.
I think I still pick the 8 over this one. Its a hell of a lot of fun at the track and road because of the crisp handling and at least it looks outside and inside 1000 times better. Oh and at least here where I live, its cheaper so I can just go ahead and buy a nice turbo kit and a few upgrades and I will be saying bye bye to the evo heh.
just my 2 cents
I think I still pick the 8 over this one. Its a hell of a lot of fun at the track and road because of the crisp handling and at least it looks outside and inside 1000 times better. Oh and at least here where I live, its cheaper so I can just go ahead and buy a nice turbo kit and a few upgrades and I will be saying bye bye to the evo heh.
just my 2 cents
04-27-2008, 05:55 PM
#4
Evolution Theory
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I agree that it is 10 times better than the subaru, yet I would never buy one. Yes the looks call up attention but then again its just 4 humps (one on each whell well) and a big spoiler away from looking exactly like a regular Lancer GTS. I liked that even though the other ones had a hint of resemblance they were different. Now you can hardly tell the difference from afar. Same thing happens with the subby.
I think I still pick the 8 over this one. Its a hell of a lot of fun at the track and road because of the crisp handling and at least it looks outside and inside 1000 times better. Oh and at least here where I live, its cheaper so I can just go ahead and buy a nice turbo kit and a few upgrades and I will be saying bye bye to the evo heh.
just my 2 cents
I think I still pick the 8 over this one. Its a hell of a lot of fun at the track and road because of the crisp handling and at least it looks outside and inside 1000 times better. Oh and at least here where I live, its cheaper so I can just go ahead and buy a nice turbo kit and a few upgrades and I will be saying bye bye to the evo heh.
just my 2 cents
The STi also looks a lot different from a regular impreza and the WRX.
And I don't understand why you would pick an 8 over an Evo X in terms of handling, have you ever even driven one?!
You won't say bye bye to any Evo after a bolt on turbo. What if the Evo puts couple bolt ons on?
04-27-2008, 07:38 PM
#5
Blue By You
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 8,717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It does not look exactly like the GTS.. Front bumper,aero kit, wing,rear diffuser, hood, aluminum ribbed roof, dual exhausts, vents, red brembos, etc...
The STi also looks a lot different from a regular impreza and the WRX.
And I don't understand why you would pick an 8 over an Evo X in terms of handling, have you ever even driven one?!
You won't say bye bye to any Evo after a bolt on turbo. What if the Evo puts couple bolt ons on?
The STi also looks a lot different from a regular impreza and the WRX.
And I don't understand why you would pick an 8 over an Evo X in terms of handling, have you ever even driven one?!
You won't say bye bye to any Evo after a bolt on turbo. What if the Evo puts couple bolt ons on?
Anyhow, reading reviews like that is bad for me. The night after taking a 200 mile trip and not having cruise control and my stiff ride the Evo X seems more appealing, and then I read things like this...
04-27-2008, 07:43 PM
#6
Evolution Theory
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Don't you know by now... RX-8 owners can pay thousands for turbo kits but the other cars they will be racing must remain stock, especially if said car can get over 300whp with a couple bolt-ons. It's teh rulez!
Anyhow, reading reviews like that is bad for me. The night after taking a 200 mile trip and not having cruise control and my stiff ride the Evo X seems more appealing, and then I read things like this...
Anyhow, reading reviews like that is bad for me. The night after taking a 200 mile trip and not having cruise control and my stiff ride the Evo X seems more appealing, and then I read things like this...
Yeah the Evo 8 is more raw than the X but its not a night and day difference so your move from an 8 to an X wouldn't be for comfort
YOU NEED MOAR MODZ!
04-28-2008, 07:39 AM
#7
Boosted!!!
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Puerto Rïco
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
not that but for the price of the evo you can get a bolt on turbo on your 8 and still have change left over.
And yes it looks exactly like a GTS. It looks like a GTS with a body kit. That is why I dont like it. It should be something different that way you know you have something different. But go sit on both and look at them they are almost identical.
And the STI does not look that different from the regular ones. The changes are too subtle outside. Inside yes, but outside the changes are too subtle. And I am not paying almost 8k more for a car that looks almost the same as the cheap version. Ask any person that doesnt know about cars and show them an sti or an evo and they will think it is a reguar wrx or gts. I dont want that. I want my car to stand out as something different that is all I am saying.
And no I am not an 8 owner that wants other cars to stay stock, I just preferr this. And it is my opinon which you have to respect. If you dont then that just shows who you are.
And yes it looks exactly like a GTS. It looks like a GTS with a body kit. That is why I dont like it. It should be something different that way you know you have something different. But go sit on both and look at them they are almost identical.
And the STI does not look that different from the regular ones. The changes are too subtle outside. Inside yes, but outside the changes are too subtle. And I am not paying almost 8k more for a car that looks almost the same as the cheap version. Ask any person that doesnt know about cars and show them an sti or an evo and they will think it is a reguar wrx or gts. I dont want that. I want my car to stand out as something different that is all I am saying.
And no I am not an 8 owner that wants other cars to stay stock, I just preferr this. And it is my opinon which you have to respect. If you dont then that just shows who you are.
04-28-2008, 08:10 AM
#8
3-wheeler
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 2,734
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have to admit that it doesn't take much to put the Evo X over the 400 WHP mark either. UMS tuning here in Phoenix had an Evo X in their shop with a FMIC upgrade, a slightly bigger turbo and a tune making 401 WHP and i think 398 torque.
04-28-2008, 08:33 AM
#9
Boosted!!!
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Puerto Rïco
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yeah, that is true. Here in PR whith just a couple of tricks not even one bolt on they got 40hp more.
But they do say that the clutch is like butter, it dies super fast.
But they do say that the clutch is like butter, it dies super fast.
04-28-2008, 09:20 AM
#10
Mitsu's new engine has some problem. HKS Japan took the motor apart and found a lot of weakness. They're not even sure if this motor can hold as much power as the older cousin in stock form without breaking something.
Meh, I still love both Evo X and Subaru's STi tho. I dont mind to have either 1 or both (if someone pays for my insurance
)
Meh, I still love both Evo X and Subaru's STi tho. I dont mind to have either 1 or both (if someone pays for my insurance
)
04-28-2008, 10:18 AM
#12
Storm Trooper
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Freakmont, CA
Posts: 3,908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Don't you know by now... RX-8 owners can pay thousands for turbo kits but the other cars they will be racing must remain stock, especially if said car can get over 300whp with a couple bolt-ons. It's teh rulez!
Anyhow, reading reviews like that is bad for me. The night after taking a 200 mile trip and not having cruise control and my stiff ride the Evo X seems more appealing, and then I read things like this...
Anyhow, reading reviews like that is bad for me. The night after taking a 200 mile trip and not having cruise control and my stiff ride the Evo X seems more appealing, and then I read things like this...
And yes, the X handles much better than the 8, and I had coilovers and sways on my 8.
04-28-2008, 10:59 AM
#13
n00b post whore
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Glad to see they weren't bullshitting when they said the X would be better than the IX out of the box.
.... I don't see myself passing up an STI hatch though.
04-28-2008, 11:29 AM
#14
i pwn therefore i am
Don't you know by now... RX-8 owners can pay thousands for turbo kits but the other cars they will be racing must remain stock, especially if said car can get over 300whp with a couple bolt-ons. It's teh rulez!
Anyhow, reading reviews like that is bad for me. The night after taking a 200 mile trip and not having cruise control and my stiff ride the Evo X seems more appealing, and then I read things like this...
Anyhow, reading reviews like that is bad for me. The night after taking a 200 mile trip and not having cruise control and my stiff ride the Evo X seems more appealing, and then I read things like this...
04-28-2008, 12:59 PM
#17
Blue By You
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 8,717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Drive both back to back and you won't even give the STI a second look. Unless of course you really need that extra storage space.
04-28-2008, 12:59 PM
#18
Boosted!!!
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Puerto Rïco
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
04-28-2008, 01:07 PM
#19
Blue By You
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 8,717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
People don't buy an Evo for looks, they buy it because they want the most performance for their money. Though this new one looks really nice IMO and anyone that knows cars will easily be able to tell the difference. Same goes for the STI, put a regular WRX and an STI side by side the the difference in looks is pretty dramtic and far more so than the last version. Besides, I don't see it as a bad thing that people will confuse my Evo for a lower end version. I'm not out to impress anyone and it's often more fun having people not know what your car is capable of. However, as was shown in that article, people know.
04-28-2008, 01:15 PM
#20
Grand Chancellor
Now the EVO is atleast worth its admission ticket.
Curious: Is the 5spd in the EVO means Mitsu is not interested with a 6spd. And that the SST is the way to go?
So is Clarkson still a valid automotive source or is he still an entertainment clown?
See: https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/jeremy-clarkson-likes-bmw-135i-so-now-you-do-too-142072/
Curious: Is the 5spd in the EVO means Mitsu is not interested with a 6spd. And that the SST is the way to go?
So is Clarkson still a valid automotive source or is he still an entertainment clown?
See: https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/jeremy-clarkson-likes-bmw-135i-so-now-you-do-too-142072/
Last edited by delhi; 04-28-2008 at 01:21 PM.
04-28-2008, 01:53 PM
#22
Boosted!!!
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Puerto Rïco
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The 5 speed in the evo is good and is the way to go if you want to seriously mod the car. People still dont know how much the SST is going to hold up. Rumors have risen that the reason the MR's were late was because they had to tweak the transmission because it was acting iffy.
04-28-2008, 02:10 PM
#23
Storm Trooper
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Freakmont, CA
Posts: 3,908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No, I haven't been there since I got it a couple weeks ago. I'm really loving this car though. They sold my old 8 pretty fast, and I actually saw it about a week after I traded it. I thought I was going to miss it, but I didn't at all.
04-28-2008, 02:12 PM
#24
Storm Trooper
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Freakmont, CA
Posts: 3,908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The 5 speed in the evo is good and is the way to go if you want to seriously mod the car. People still dont know how much the SST is going to hold up. Rumors have risen that the reason the MR's were late was because they had to tweak the transmission because it was acting iffy.
