Cayman S or Z4 M coup
03-25-2006, 10:39 AM
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If you do some research on both cars, I assure you that the Cayman S would tromp the Z4 in every respect, including aesthetics IMHO. Hell, in C&D's comparo test against an Exige it raped in basically every category, and did so with a full plush leather interior, something the Exige lacks.
Now, if you're just looking for a bimmer, the real option is the M5. A friend of mine just sold his 2002 996 TT for a brand spanking new M5 and bought a used Elise for his track car. His justification, aside from the fact he wanted separate cars for street and track, was that the M5 is better in every respect other than on-the-edge handling where it becomes a bit more unstable because of its heft, and acceleration below 50 mph.
Now, if you're just looking for a bimmer, the real option is the M5. A friend of mine just sold his 2002 996 TT for a brand spanking new M5 and bought a used Elise for his track car. His justification, aside from the fact he wanted separate cars for street and track, was that the M5 is better in every respect other than on-the-edge handling where it becomes a bit more unstable because of its heft, and acceleration below 50 mph.
03-26-2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bascho
I don't understand the mentality of the Cayman being 'held back'. It has already proven to beat the 911's times at Nurerburgring.......what else do you want from the Cayman? The 911 is arguably the pinnacle of auto-x racing capabilities and that's why every other car in professional auto-x racing is a 911. For the Cayman to come out and perform at that level and in some instances exceed that level........that is ******* impressive IMO. Is horsepower the issue?? If so then some of you need to read up on a thing called balance. More power does not mean more speed. It's a balancing act between many systems working together to make speed. The Cayman is a success IMO.....but I would chose a 911 because that is my favorite car of all time. I would love to have a 2004 911 Turbo Cabriolet.
I'd get a 911 just because it has "backseats" (not REALLY useable, but at least I can toss a bag on them). The fact that I have lusted after one for most of my life helps too...
I wouldn't get a 2004 911 Turbo. I'd get a 2007 911 Turbo... the new setup has an even lighter AWD system and the turbo is a variable type so that it can both spool up quickly and also produce top end power. Early reviews say that it is both faster and has better response. Or hell... just get a GT3.
03-26-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael
Now, if you're just looking for a bimmer, the real option is the M5. A friend of mine just sold his 2002 996 TT for a brand spanking new M5 and bought a used Elise for his track car. His justification, aside from the fact he wanted separate cars for street and track, was that the M5 is better in every respect other than on-the-edge handling where it becomes a bit more unstable because of its heft, and acceleration below 50 mph.
03-26-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bascho
I don't understand the mentality of the Cayman being 'held back'. It has already proven to beat the 911's times at Nurerburgring.......what else do you want from the Cayman? The 911 is arguably the pinnacle of auto-x racing capabilities and that's why every other car in professional auto-x racing is a 911. For the Cayman to come out and perform at that level and in some instances exceed that level........that is ******* impressive IMO. Is horsepower the issue?? If so then some of you need to read up on a thing called balance. More power does not mean more speed. It's a balancing act between many systems working together to make speed. The Cayman is a success IMO.....but I would chose a 911 because that is my favorite car of all time. I would love to have a 2004 911 Turbo Cabriolet.
03-26-2006, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael
If you do some research on both cars, I assure you that the Cayman S would tromp the Z4 in every respect, including aesthetics IMHO. Hell, in C&D's comparo test against an Exige it raped in basically every category, and did so with a full plush leather interior, something the Exige lacks.
Now, if you're just looking for a bimmer, the real option is the M5. A friend of mine just sold his 2002 996 TT for a brand spanking new M5 and bought a used Elise for his track car. His justification, aside from the fact he wanted separate cars for street and track, was that the M5 is better in every respect other than on-the-edge handling where it becomes a bit more unstable because of its heft, and acceleration below 50 mph.
Now, if you're just looking for a bimmer, the real option is the M5. A friend of mine just sold his 2002 996 TT for a brand spanking new M5 and bought a used Elise for his track car. His justification, aside from the fact he wanted separate cars for street and track, was that the M5 is better in every respect other than on-the-edge handling where it becomes a bit more unstable because of its heft, and acceleration below 50 mph.
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Originally Posted by Ike
What the hell is Nurerburgring? What makes you think for a second that the 911 is the pinnacle of auto-x? What the hell is professional auto-x? You need to read up on a thing called knowing what you're talking about...
I mistyped Nurburgring.....I think you know what I meant.
I thought auto-x meant racing at a track
Maybe I meant GT racing?? I don't really keep up with that type of racing.....but everytime I have watched GT races, it seems like every other car is a Porsche.....that tells me that they dominate that sport.
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